-- AJ -- 551 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Surely, with all the shit that happening in the world today, our elected officials have more important things to do than change the national anthem (without consulting the voting public) because somebody took offence at the existing lyrics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris 125 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 Look over there nothing to see here 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ironnerd 886 Posted December 31, 2020 Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Great change. Young never made sense to me. I much prefer One. Now to get rid of "Girt by sea" Edited January 1 by Ironnerd 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-- AJ -- 551 Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 19 minutes ago, Ironnerd said: Now to get rid of "Girt by sea" Precisely. People have been complaining about this line since as long as I can remember but yet it hasn't been changed. So why change the other one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ironnerd 886 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 A simple one word change that respects the first nation people and encourages the unity of Australians. There are a number of proposals to change words and sentences in the anthem including "girt by sea". Many of these proposed changes would be much more controversial and divisive than changing one word. I applaud the government for not wasting money on consulting the voting public and making a simple change that reflects the unity of Australians. We elect them to govern. They should govern. Consulting the public would have cost money and created divisiveness. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prince 891 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Mundine has rejected the change so if he is not happy I am not happy 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, -- AJ -- said: Precisely. People have been complaining about this line since as long as I can remember but yet it hasn't been changed. So why change the other one? You really don't know why 'young' was removed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 7,204 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Pretty sure Mundine would reject any anthem that didn’t mention him personally. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-- AJ -- 551 Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, AA7 said: You really don't know why 'young' was removed? No I don't. I was under the impression that it meant that we were a young nation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazaau 487 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) What is people's issue with girt by sea? Edited January 1 by dazaau Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronJimbo 1,419 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 46 minutes ago, dazaau said: What is people's issue with girt by sea? Same as 'young and free' It's something that can be changed, which makes it something that can be complained about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronmanFoz 1,656 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 10 hours ago, Ironnerd said: Great change. Young never made sense to me. I much prefer One. Now to get rid of "Girt by sea" Makes no difference to me.....I didnt know what the previous version was. It’s a stupid song and I refuse to sing it. It’s embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, -- AJ -- said: No I don't. I was under the impression that it meant that we were a young nation. It does, but we aren't. Indigenous have been here for about 40000 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-- AJ -- 551 Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, AA7 said: It does, but we aren't. Indigenous have been here for about 40000 years. They may have been (or it might even be 60000 years) but not as a nation. Rather a gaggle of individual tribes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 8 hours ago, -- AJ -- said: Rather a gaggle of individual tribes With current State Premiers invoking state against state, we may just be back to that model. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I like "girt by sea". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prince 891 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I like "well for toil". I dont know what it means, but I have always liked it. it just gets me going... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 31 minutes ago, Prince said: I like "well for toil". I dont know what it means, but I have always liked it. it just gets me going... Except that's not the words... I can't tell if you're trolling 🤷 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 33 minutes ago, Prince said: I like "well for toil". I dont know what it means, but I have always liked it. it just gets me going... Its "wealth for toil" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, Turts said: Its "wealth for toil" Scomo rephrased with "if you have a go youll get a go"... ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prince 891 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Turts said: Its "wealth for toil" that makes more sense now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prince 891 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, AA7 said: Except that's not the words... I can't tell if you're trolling 🤷 I dont troll. If I did, do you really think I would come here to troll? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregb 192 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Hell, I remember when the first line was 'Australias sons let us rejoice' But if we are going to change it how about this: https://youtu.be/xiEycVMKoJo Also explains the 'girt' bit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bored@work 4,125 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Posts hidden because I’m sick of dealing with ppls BS & I have better things to do on a Saturday night 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flanman 2,472 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, Bored@work said: Posts hidden because I’m sick of dealing with ppls BS & I have better things to do on a Saturday night Yep, me too. Aurora at 7:30pm on Fox. FM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BogFrog 679 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Bored@work said: Posts hidden because I’m sick of dealing with ppls BS & I have better things to do on a Saturday night Didn't see them. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 13 hours ago, Prince said: I dont troll. If I did, do you really think I would come here to troll? Who knows on this site anymore... I was just surprised you didn't know the words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prince 891 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 49 minutes ago, AA7 said: Who knows on this site anymore... I was just surprised you didn't know the words. Well you’re talking to someone who only found out last year that the clash weren’t singing “rock the cash bar”. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 901 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 One word change to the labor party’s national anthem, what’s the point. Should have that we are, you, i am australian song or waltzing Matilda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazaau 487 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 25 minutes ago, Oompa Loompa said: Should have that we are, you, i am australian song or waltzing Matilda. Right, the national anthem about theft and suicide 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 901 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 27 minutes ago, dazaau said: Right, the national anthem about theft and suicide Well we are founded on stealing a country and convicts...lol. It’s like the French one, just gets you going all that jumbuck stuff. that I am, you are Australian is the one, was at stadium Australia with 80k people once and place just erupted.... then 5 mins later they trotted out the actual anthem, well the old one with one different word and the place didn't hit the same high point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Oompa Loompa said: Should have that we are, you, i am australian song or waltzing Matilda. 1 hour ago, dazaau said: Right, the national anthem about theft and suicide Just up the road here. Only recorded act of Piracy on inland waters. Surely thats worth a gernsey. http://www.tolarnostation.com.au/history.html Piracy and burning woolshed In 1894, the price of wool dropped and, as the pastoralists sought to drop shearing salaries, a shearers strike commenced. In an effort to maintain a operating woolshed, Chaffey sent the Rodney paddle steamer to Wentworth to collect 50 non-union shearers. On the evening of the 26 August 1894, whilst the Rodney was moored at Moorara Station (45km downstream of Tolarno Station), Tolarno shearers attacked the non-unionist shearers and, after a protracted scuffle, set the Rodney alight and set it down the river. The burning of the Rodney is the only recorded act of piracy on inland waterways in Australia. Six of the union shearers were arrested and taken to Broken Hill, where they were tried and acquitted. On 8 August , following the acquittal, a number of unionist shearers, including Samuel Hoffmeister called raided Dagwood woolshed where 400 ewes were housed. Hoffmeister was found dead the following morning and this death gave birth to the story of Waltzing Matilda. Edited January 7 by Turts typo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 4,248 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I can’t believe people care given most of the country don’t even know the words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-- AJ -- 551 Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 51 minutes ago, Peter said: I can’t believe people care given most of the country don’t even know the words. I suspect I'll care less and less the more it gets changed. BTW: I used to know all the words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turts 2,980 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 On 01/01/2021 at 2:51 PM, Prince said: Mundine has rejected the change so if he is not happy I am not happy Not happy campers here either https://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/politics/2517615/anthem-change-an-insult-say-millewa-mallee-aborigines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Tinman 304 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 On 01/01/2021 at 3:12 PM, roxii said: Pretty sure Mundine would reject any anthem that didn’t mention him personally. Pretty sure even if it didnt mention him personally, he would still find something to complain about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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