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Hi Peter, Not sure why the price difference between the Madone and the Domane but I have the 2018 Emonda sl6 disc and really like it, also it’s geometry is not as relaxed as the Domane but not as racy as the Madone.

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My roadie is a Trek Madone 3.1 which I picked up second hand with hardly any miles on it. I have to say, even though it's at the lower end of the model range, the frame geometry and running gear have been well thought through. It's a bike you can get on and happily ride for any distance. It doesn't "feel" the fastest bike you can ride but that's a bit deceiving. I say that because some riders like that twitchy fast feeling from the bike, not sure what you are looking for.

 On my first ride on the 3.1, I rode the 32 km from place to the city, made a minor adjustment to the seat height and then headed for Beach road to see what it was like on a few different surfaces and rolling hills, well rolling bumps more like it. It went great. I ended up riding to Frankston, had some lunch then road back home. 134 km in total, AV around 26kph and no problems with hands, neck or back.

That's the type of bike my Madone is. If the higher end Madone models and Domane series are several levels above this model, then a young guy like you should have a great experience with them.

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20 hours ago, Peter said:

Is the madone worth an extra thousand bucks over the domane?

same group set. Same colour.  Just diff frame ?

2020 sl6

It comes down to what you want to use it for, the Madone is a racing machine very aggressive, the Domane less aggressive, likely a better ride on shit roads. I have the Emonda, its sorry a classic frame geometry, good for the climbs and 100km training days.

 

If i was crit racing, the Madone be better, if I was riding sportifs often for fun the Domane is best, the the emonda is somewhere between.

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I ride a 2017 Domane SL5 disc for as my commute/training bike now and although it's probably not quite as fast as my old Cannondale Super 6, it is great on crappy surface roads/bike tracks and with the 32mm tryes it is comfortable for riding the gravel parts of the main yarra trail.

It allows me to ride the Warburton rail trail out to Warburton, ride up Mt Donna Buang, then go down the north side to Healesville with the 10km downhill gravel section. That's not something I would recommend on a  Madone.

It really depends on what you intend to use your bike for.   

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21 hours ago, Peter said:

Is the madone worth an extra thousand bucks over the domane?

same group set. Same colour.  Just diff frame ?

2020 sl6

I know people with both and I would say those with the madone are pretty happy with their choice (weight the only issue) and I know at least one that went from an Emonda to a Domane and is not happy with it. 

I think the 2020 Domane is considerably different to previous models.

I would buy either a Madone or Emonda (I have an Emonda) but not until Trek convert to threaded bottom brackets.

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3 hours ago, Naut said:

I would buy either a Madone or Emonda (I have an Emonda) but not until Trek convert to threaded bottom brackets.

I consider my Emonda a good no frills workhorse sort of bike, as the roads in Bathurst can be rough with lots of rolling hills and climbs and being a disc brakes can run 30cc tyres.

I agree with Naut, as the only issue I’ve had was with the Bottom Bracket where I had a bearing replaced under warranty and the mechanic said he’d prefer that Trek used  a threaded B.B.

But Trek were easy to deal with.

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11 minutes ago, dazmuzza said:

I also own a speed concept and its a fun bike. Would love a trek road bike, but agree they're pricey for what you get. Still paying that "Lance" tax.

What would be the comparatives to the Madone from the other brands?

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

Road the domane and madone and both are way heavier than my specialized venge.   
turned me off a bit.  
back to the drawing boards. 

As in heavy up hills or heavy handling? I have a venge but I don't fit it that well, I need a bike with a shorter reach, the Emondo might do the trick but I can't get into a bike shop in this mad world.

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

Just feel like a brick to get moving.  And also just lifting nand that was without spares and water bottles on board. 

I have the Emonda as well and don't find it heavy, I believe it is lighter than the Madone and Domane.

 

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2 minutes ago, JeffS said:

I have the Emonda as well and don't find it heavy, I believe it is lighter than the Madone and Domane.

 

yeah its lighter but to be honest, it looks a bit plain for me.  Might as well get a giant for half the price.  Better bang for buck.  Still a lifetime warranty

 

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2 hours ago, JeffS said:

I have the Emonda as well and don't find it heavy, I believe it is lighter than the Madone and Domane.

 

I think the Emonda in a 60 will be my bike, I do want to err on shorter reach with domane gives you. Cannndal synaps and specialised Roubaix could do it as well.

Canyon endurance with di2 for 3.5 K could be the deal. Though the Madone looks sick

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14 minutes ago, Limited said:

That's a good deal where did you see that?

Canyon website, but sorry its in USD which I get paid in on salary equalisation, there has to be some benefit to living in this infected hole.

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On 29/04/2020 at 8:20 AM, dazmuzza said:

Madone is an aero road bike, so comparatives will be in that category. Choose any top brand aero bike from this list: https://www.cyclist.co.uk/buying-guides/1850/best-aero-bikes

First choice would be the Look 795 blade
Second Willier Cento 10 NDR
Third choice not on that list would be the Cannonade supersix (understated and classy)
Fourth choice also not on that list would be the Scott addict

I know the last 2 aren't full aero bike but if you want light with aero characteristics then they are also worth a look

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9 hours ago, MackaEvo2 said:

First choice would be the Look 795 blade
Second Willier Cento 10 NDR
Third choice not on that list would be the Cannonade supersix (understated and classy)
Fourth choice also not on that list would be the Scott addict

I know the last 2 aren't full aero bike but if you want light with aero characteristics then they are also worth a look

I just sold my Wilier & miss it already. The new ones look awesome but I couldn’t (wasn’t allowed) to spend $13k on a new bike.

I ended up getting a Factor 02. 

The BMC I purchased in June last year is currently back in for its second warranty replacement.....

 

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1 hour ago, Limited said:

What’s wrong with the BMC bored 

The rear stays went on the first one. The real wheel wouldn’t sit square in the frame. 
Second frame has a similar issue. My mechanic noticed the rear brake caliper wasn’t sitting right on the rotor. Simple fix to “face” the mounting point. Took it to a BMC dealer to have it done under warranty. Bike shop rang last week to confirm, facing the brake mount didn’t fix the issue. Sounds like the second frame has twisted also. 
 

After waiting 11 weeks for the first frame to be replaced. The shop I purchased it from refused to do a warranty refund on it. I read up on consumer law & from I could tell they have to honor a full refund. When I requested it the shop got rude on the phone and refused to do it.  I’m nice and annoyed. They stuffed up because I was about to buy a second training bike from them. In fact I also would have taken the money from the BMC & upgraded today a S-works.
 

Hence I cracked the shits on Thursday & purchased a new Factor. 
 

Checking BMC website it looks like they are out of 56cm frames in both the SLR02 & SLR01.   So I’m not sure what’s going to happen.

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3 minutes ago, Bored@work said:

I purchased a frame for $3k & built it up. 

Their bars at $900 & seat pole at $420 are expensive 

Just saw those disc ready frames look okay if you have a groupo to go on it..

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