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Tourism is the second biggest export (dont quote me) . crown, Hilton the new ritz carlton. do you really think there are enough people to fill those hotels. i think not. 

The casino - no high rollers.

broome - to dam expensive for locals they rely on international etc 

 

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Swab result - Covid negative. Just a coincidental illness. Means I can leave the house! Hooray! Have cancelled ambulance shift for Sunday because still feeling under the weather but back out again nex

On behalf of everyone else here on Trannies (apologies to those who I purport to be speaking for who don't share my view), mate, would you mind putting a lid on your intentionally inflammatory comment

Thought I'd check in with you all. Have to say I'm struggling a bit with redundancy, the virus and its knock on effects. Trying to stay positive but feeling quite 'isolated' over here now and starting

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1 hour ago, Stikman said:

What exactly are we (Western Australia) missing out on by keeping our borders closed that is of vital importance?  Freight is getting through.  People can travel here if they have a reason and are prepared to isolate or have an exemption (of which there are many.)  I'm certainly not seeing or hearing of many businesses that are suffering due to the border restrictions.

Yes there is a loss of tourism but where would you think would be a safe option to get tourists from?  Who is taking significant holidays at this uncertain time?  And why would you risk the loss of most industries in the event there was a big outbreak for the benefit of just one which is naturally in a reduced capacity at this time?

i have a client thatS a travel agent _ i can tell you they are suffering. another as a business in bali they too not doing well. i can keep goinG if you like. i have been at the coal face of this since the beginning

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I'm sorry Chris, do you think any of those things actually fill from tourists within Australia and New Zealand?  Or are you suggesting we open the borders to the U.S., U.K., Europe, Asia?  If you think that's even remotely close for any state in Australia you're delusional.  Not a single one of those issues will be fixed by opening to NSW and Vic.

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39 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

Sort of. Phase 5 restrictions from July 18 include the unveiling of an 23 metre tall statue of Mark McGowan at Elizabeth Quay.

The current government decisions are pretty popular over here. McGowan was interviewed on ABC radio this morning and spoke extensively about the easing of restrictions and the plan ahead for WA. The radio hosts were reluctant to read out listener text messages for fear they'd be criticised of bias, as they were about 90 or 95% in support of MacGowan's decisions*. Chris should have taken the opportunity to message in. He would stood a good chance to have his opinion broadcast to probably about quarter of a million people.

There's even chatter circulating about where else in Australia are you going to be able to fill a stadium with 60000 people for the AFL grand final in a few months? Perth's new Optus stadium of course!

If that were to happen, McGowan would probably be deified.

So yeah, it would be pretty much like North Korea.

https://7news.com.au/politics/mark-mcgowan/auslan-interpreter-translates-expletive-laden-shout-of-support-at-mcgowan-press-conference-c-1001386

*Cue IJ comments about ABC bias, echo chamber, confirmation bias, defunding ABC, etc

Paul you have been here a short time but i think you have worked out how narrow minded the western Australians are.  

 

PS I know Paul from Sydney :)  

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Chris, I've also got a friend who's a travel agent here. What is really killing them is the inability to sell holidays overseas, not interstate. Most people book their own interstate travel. Do you really think that if they opened the international borders, people would flood into the travel agents to book a holiday overseas?

I know if they opened them this year, I'd be stocking up on toilet paper, rice & hand sanitiser ready for the next lock-down.

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44 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

There's certainly a government push for sandgropers to holiday in WA, especially now internal restrictions on travel have been removed. Keep the dollars in WA. Support local tourism industry. That sort of push.

Some primary producers are concerned about a lack of foreign backpackers for fruit picking etc, but I imagine that's not just a WA thing.

 

16 minutes ago, chris said:

Tourism is the second biggest export (dont quote me) . crown, Hilton the new ritz carlton. do you really think there are enough people to fill those hotels. i think not. 

The casino - no high rollers.

broome - to dam expensive for locals they rely on international etc 

 

I don't know the stats nor am I familiar with the dynamics of WA tourism, hence I'm not expressing an opinion. I'm just throwing some facts into the conversation.

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30 minutes ago, chris said:

Tourism is the second biggest export (dont quote me) . crown, Hilton the new ritz carlton. do you really think there are enough people to fill those hotels. i think not. 

The casino - no high rollers.

broome - to dam expensive for locals they rely on international etc 

 

Was only thinking Broome locals must be screwed. 
 

and the airplanes aren’t helping. 

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39 minutes ago, chris said:

Paul you have been here a short time but i think you have worked out how narrow minded the western Australians are.  

 

PS I know Paul from Sydney :)  

There's definitely a parochialism here, but I'm learning to adopt a derogatory tone and slag off the "eastern states". Soon I hope to pronounce Exmouth and Derby incorrectly, though I expect to continue to struggle with Coogee.

I'm learning to suppress a snigger when runners and cyclists warn me about "hills".

As soon as my crampons arrive, I'm going to attempt to scale Mt Lawley, Mt Hawthorn and Mt Pleasant. If I can achieve the three summits in a single day from my base camp in South Perth, it should earn me some local credibility and become accepted by the locals.

Though it will be a while before I'm no longer bewildered or amused by the public grieving when the Eagles lose.

;)

 

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Australians returning from overseas are being diverted away from Melbourne due to federal government concerns about Victoria's handling of quarantine following COVID-19 outbreaks linked to two hotels.


 

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Stuff flying.  Bring back the Driving Holiday.

You can support more local communities by doing do.

Personally, I'm in the middle of planning a 2 week outback pub crawl around Queensland.   :)

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My daughter and her boyfriend and some friends have booked flights to Cairns in October and are going up to a backpackers.  Flights were $59 each way she said.

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35 minutes ago, Peter said:

Was only thinking Broome locals must be screwed. 
 

and the airplanes aren’t helping. 

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Complete bullshit article Peter. Don't believe what you read in the DailyMail. I just pulled up webjet & tried for a return trip from Sydney to Melbourne, Monday to Friday next week. I can fly pretty much any time of the day for $101 each way. And when was the last time you could "normally" get tickets for $100 return.

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And based on the handful of times I've looked into going to Broome, the $500 sounds about normal. Perhaps the difference is between some ridiculously low fare and a return to typical pricing.

Who knows. This is all anecdotal and proves nothing. 

In my own experience, I lost my job as a result of the pandemic. The sector of the industry I was working in will take a long, long time to recover. There are plenty of other opportunities if you care to look for them. Other than my job, which I have now worked around, there is almost nothing left which is affecting my day to day life. Yes, I would like the option to go 'home' and I'd like the option to go to SA and visit a friend as we had planned to do in early June. But otherwise, I'm still spending money, going places, doing things,supporting the economy. As are most other people I have regular contact with. If there is some crisis looming which it seems only Chris is aware of from the coalface, I certainly can't see it. 

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Complete bullshit article Peter. Don't believe what you read in the DailyMail. I just pulled up webjet & tried for a return trip from Sydney to Melbourne, Monday to Friday next week. I can fly pretty much any time of the day for $101 each way. And when was the last time you could "normally" get tickets for $100 return.

This is perth Broome.  Not Syd Melb. 

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3 minutes ago, Peter said:

This is perth Broome.  Not Syd Melb. 

But read above that in the article. It says return trips Sydney to Melbourne are normally $100, and it now costs more than $1304. Claptrap.

And one would expect the costs of flights to go up in July, like they've claimed. It's school holidays.

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I work for a holiday resort  in Busso and I must say business is booming. It's unusually busy for this time of year. I do think it will drop off after school holidays when junior sport kicks off but it remains to be seen how much. The difference being its all west ozzies instead of eastern staters on their lap around. I personally wish we were still in stage 1 , 3 day work week, living the dream

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

But read above that in the article. It says return trips Sydney to Melbourne are normally $100, and it now costs more than $1304. Claptrap.

And one would expect the costs of flights to go up in July, like they've claimed. It's school holidays.

Dated June 2. 
back then it was. It was actually cheaper to fly to LA than us fly to Sydney.  
but sure. You pick a fight. Ha 

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4 hours ago, Paul Every said:

 

There's even chatter circulating about where else in Australia are you going to be able to fill a stadium with 60000 people for the AFL grand final in a few months? Perth's new Optus stadium of course!

West Paper 

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13 minutes ago, Peter said:

Dated June 2. 
back then it was. It was actually cheaper to fly to LA than us fly to Sydney.  
but sure. You pick a fight. Ha 

Not trying to pick a fight Peter. I didn't notice the date, but just commented that a London tabloid isn't always the best place to get info about airline prices in Aus.

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Here is an example also regarding holiday in Australia.

apartment margs last week was about 200 per night. We do tdu about 200 per night. I can go to girona for 60euro per night and food is cheaper also

thats why I don’t holiday here

ps I was meant to go next weekend to 🇪🇸 

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8 hours ago, chris said:

Here is an example also regarding holiday in Australia.

apartment margs last week was about 200 per night. We do tdu about 200 per night. I can go to girona for 60euro per night and food is cheaper also

thats why I don’t holiday here

ps I was meant to go next weekend to 🇪🇸 

Yep it’s cheaper for me to race in the US than it is to race in Busso

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16 minutes ago, Peter said:

3aw 7am news said she didn’t. Fark the news.  Never right. 

His statement above, that you posted, says the wife has it.

 

"My result is positive, just as Jelana's.."

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

Seems it sucks to be bald.  
glad I’m not. 

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Roxii, IronmanFoz and me are stuffed 😞

I knew I should have gone to Ashley & Martin 20 years ago (yea, yea)

 

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35,000 cases and 864 deaths. After a few days of declining deaths, coming back to the 1000. Brazil looking ordinary and India bad and that is before you factor in low testing and poor records. Mexico and South America just a worry.

 

 

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10 hours ago, BarryBevan said:

35,000 cases and 864 deaths. After a few days of declining deaths, coming back to the 1000. Brazil looking ordinary and India bad and that is before you factor in low testing and poor records. Mexico and South America just a worry.

 

 

In the US, positive cases and deaths always fall on the weekends and spike on Mondays, presumably as a reflection of reporting systems. Though it appears only a matter of time before the daily deaths rate starts trending back up. The numbers and rates of positive cases is very ugly in some states.

As for Brazil, it wouldn't surprise if Bolsanaro is before a court sometime in the next few years.

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12 hours ago, Mr Flower said:

Roxii, IronmanFoz and me are stuffed 😞

I knew I should have gone to Ashley & Martin 20 years ago (yea, yea)

 

Approx 100% of bald cyclists wear helmets. 

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5 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

33 cases in Victoria in the last 24 hours. Massive testing drive with 23000 test. 

Seems a simple party can cause a whole state to bring back restrictions

There goes the toilet paper again.  

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28 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

33 cases in Victoria in the last 24 hours. Massive testing drive with 23000 test. 

Seems a simple party can cause a whole state to bring back restrictions

They need to decided if they want to eradicate it like in theory has happened to WA and SA.

33 new cases in Victoria •

7 returned travellers •

9 linked to outbreaks •

6 routine testing •

11 under investigation

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21 minutes ago, Peter said:

They need to decided if they want to eradicate it like in theory has happened to WA and SA.

I think the problem with a quick and early "eradication" means you have almost no herd immunity, and unless you keep the borders closed indefinitely you are always at risk of it rearing its head again. 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, roxii said:

I think the problem with a quick and early "eradication" means you have almost no herd immunity, and unless you keep the borders closed indefinitely you are always at risk of it rearing its head again. 

 

 

So if the goal is herd immunity why dont they open the borders up?

Note: I wouldnt want the borders open if I lived in WA or SA. 

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39 minutes ago, roxii said:

I think the problem with a quick and early "eradication" means you have almost no herd immunity, and unless you keep the borders closed indefinitely you are always at risk of it rearing its head again. 

 

 

They are predicting that we need close to 60% of people immune to achieve herd immunity to Covid 19. That means we need over 15 million people to have had the disease in this country. You may get some benefit with lower numbers, but probably not until you get to a few million cases.

 

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34 minutes ago, roxii said:

I think the problem with a quick and early "eradication" means you have almost no herd immunity, and unless you keep the borders closed indefinitely you are always at risk of it rearing its head again. 

Yep. 

1 minute ago, Peter said:

So if the goal is herd immunity why dont they open the borders up?

Note: I wouldnt want the borders open if I lived in WA or SA. 

It's such a difficult thing. Personally I have no real need for the borders to be open. But am also keenly aware that herd immunity, if possible with COVID, would be a good outcome. But is it really worth lives to get in the absence of a vaccine? Will a vaccine ever be available? 

So many questions and current unknowns. 

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2 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

They are predicting that we need close to 60% of people immune to achieve herd immunity to Covid 19. That means we need over 15 million people to have had the disease in this country. You may get some benefit with lower numbers, but probably not until you get to a few million cases.

 

Oh absolutely. 

I think real herd immunity is 85% or something like that. 

But eradicating it here with no immunity means Australia will need to be isolated until all other countries are the same or continue with 2 week isolation which will practically kill off our international tourism industry. 

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40 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

They are predicting that we need close to 60% of people immune to achieve herd immunity to Covid 19. That means we need over 15 million people to have had the disease in this country. You may get some benefit with lower numbers, but probably not until you get to a few million cases.

 

How are we going to know who has immunity if we're not testing for antibodies? 

For all we know we could be at 60% already 

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I was reading about Sweden and their herd immunity attempt, and it's been considered a fail so far.  They predicted they would be at 40% of population with it by now, and well on their way to herd immunity, but so far only 6.1% have it.  So again questioning whether they've gone the right way with dealing with it.

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37 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

How are we going to know who has immunity if we're not testing for antibodies? 

For all we know we could be at 60% already 

Vic are doing the type of testing that can find this out. They are going to try to test 50% of residents of a couple of the affected suburbs. This will give us an idea of whether it really has been out there under the radar.

Additionally the bloodbank are now checking for antibodies with this exact reason in mind, to see how many people that didn't know they have had it actually have.

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Hold on are you starting to agree that eradication may not be the best way forward. It’s just a popular strategy that’s all and not the right one.

 

the countries that have just slowed it down will ultimately be in a better position in the end

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Why not? 

Did for smallpox; right vaccine, administered to all. Mix in a bit of political will from all sides.

Suitable rona vaccine may be a while off. Assorted anti-vax lobby groups may mess with it.

Can be done, may not be easy.

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