Coronavirus

[dazaau 537]

I'm honestly surprised the Qld cluster didn't explode over Easter. They couldn't have been sure they got everyone I don't think, but it appears to have paid off.

And you'll never get sympathy from Victorians on your mask wearing rules. We have seen too much ha ha.

Edited Thursday at 06:26 AM by dazaau

[Peter 4,504]

34 minutes ago, truck said:

Got to say Indro shopping centre is close by and I do the bare minimum there (food) and that’s it - just can’t stand the whole mask thing so I wonder how much their trade is down with others doing likewise?

Well we in the last few weeks only just stopped wearing masks.  12 months.
 

once again, other states really didn’t understand what we went thru. . 

[-- AJ -- 659]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

Wait what? You still wearing masks?  Where?

Wear a mask? Moi?

The only time I've been out of the house in the last 2 weeks is to walk my 8km loop when it hasn't been raining.  No mask required.

[Peter 4,504]

4000 a day still dying in Brazil.  
 

Ffs.  I feel for those people and country. 

[truck 584]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

once again, other states really didn’t understand what we went thru. . 

What I don’t understand is how Dan is still in his job and that he has widespread support. Something subliminal must have occurred during those 6+ months - maybe hypnotic messages of control being played through his daily press conferences??

[more 911]

2 minutes ago, truck said:

What I don’t understand is how Dan is still in his job and that he has widespread support. Something subliminal must have occurred during those 6+ months - maybe hypnotic messages of control being played through his daily press conferences??

Because when there is a bushfire morons tend to not care if it was you who dropped the match, only that you have a bucket of water to put out the flames...

That and peoples political affiliation makes them blind to any wrong doing. Lol I almost got banned from this site for pointing out Dans mistakes because all of the lefties here didn't like it...

[goughy 3,891]

So Pfizer is now preferred for Aussies under 50.  Wonder how long is all going to take now?  Not that I'm worried, were going ok.  But it's surely not going to be that easy to get more Pfizer now?

[BarryBevan 1,662]

21 minutes ago, goughy said:

So Pfizer is now preferred for Aussies under 50.  Wonder how long is all going to take now?  Not that I'm worried, were going ok.  But it's surely not going to be that easy to get more Pfizer now?

It's going to be a while as we don't have that much of Pfizer and we were planning on making the AZ here

[Peter 4,504]

20 minutes ago, goughy said:

So Pfizer is now preferred for Aussies under 50.  Wonder how long is all going to take now?  Not that I'm worried, were going ok.  But it's surely not going to be that easy to get more Pfizer now?

Pfizer might be preferred but you can still get AZ if you are under 50 so its not Really an issue. 
 

id take the Chinese version.  I’ll take anything I can get if I can go OS faster 

[goughy 3,891]

I'm sure I'll be getting my 2nd dose of AZ, and I'm bloody lucky to leave the end of the street!

[chris 140]

17 minutes ago, Peter said:

Pfizer might be preferred but you can still get AZ if you are under 50 so its not Really an issue. 
 

id take the Chinese version.  I’ll take anything I can get if I can go OS faster 

We are truely ****ed , they should now ban the pill for women as more blood clots from that 

[AA7 1,863]

29 minutes ago, chris said:

We are truely ****ed , they should now ban the pill for women as more blood clots from that 

Just going to say the same thing. It's apparently 1000x riskier. 

[dazaau 537]

48 minutes ago, chris said:

We are truely ****ed , they should now ban the pill for women as more blood clots from that 

The vaccine isn't banned. No one has to take the pill. So, bit odd.

The risky group is mostly over that age, so it doesn't present an immediate supply issue. Plenty of arms to go into.

Those who want it will probably find it easier to get it later on if they are happy with the tiny risk. Like Peter.

It restores faith in the process which is very important 

And I'm not currently in a hurry and I'll now get the vaccine that is in every conceivable way better, so yay for me. 😉

 

[dazaau 537]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

Pfizer might be preferred but you can still get AZ if you are under 50 so its not Really an issue. 
 

id take the Chinese version.  I’ll take anything I can get if I can go OS faster 

The million dollar question is will getting the vaccine make any real difference in you going OS? 

I can't see them abandoning quarantine for quite some time yet...

[chris 140]

5 minutes ago, dazaau said:

The million dollar question is will getting the vaccine make any real difference in you going OS? 

I can't see them abandoning quarantine for quite some time yet...

Well if that’s an election which no doubt it will be I know where I will be voting 

[chris 140]

We have had 

jobkeeper 

jobseeker

jobmaker

and now jabseeker

[Peter 4,504]

8 hours ago, chris said:

We have had 

jobkeeper 

jobseeker

jobmaker

and now jabseeker

You called this about 6 months ago. 

[Yogi Bearista 43]

10 hours ago, AA7 said:

Just going to say the same thing. It's apparently 1000x riskier. 

Same goes for a long list of pharmaceuticals, treatments, and 'alternative medicines' that people willingly take - including off-the-shelf products such as paracetamol.

Here we are dealing with entire populations and tracking all side effects - these are stats we don't often get to record with such detail.

Statistics are easy to obsess over, and people readily latch onto bar-charts to validate their fears. It seems that the warning of anaphylaxis with Pfizer has gone MIA in the current AZ fears, along with the stats of deaths during trials of both vaccines. Causal links are hard to establish and the fact is that people die all the time - some even while taking a vaccine.

Statistically, you are far more likely to die driving to the clinic to receive your vaccine than from which one is used.

Edited Thursday at 10:19 PM by Yogi Bearista

[goughy 3,891]

Personally, I think there's a difference between wanting it, and wanting it!  

Barring having any conditions that would make it more difficult, I think anyone has the physical ability to get there.  Mental ability, only a handful.  And timewise ability, where you'd pretty much have to train like a pro while using your recovery time to work a job, and then having a family you'd nearly need to kiss away for a long period of time.....

I didn't want it, even when I thought my body was ok to try it.  Wasn't willing to give that all up just to do an IM, let alone reach elite amateur.

Edit to add - thread stuff up!  Although, the first line about wanting it and wanting it may apply to the vaccine!!!

Edited Friday at 03:53 AM by goughy

[Peter 4,504]

1 hour ago, goughy said:

Personally, I think there's a difference between wanting it, and wanting it!  

Barring having any conditions that would make it more difficult, I think anyone has the physical ability to get there.  Mental ability, only a handful.  And timewise ability, where you'd pretty much have to train like a pro while using your recovery time to work a job, and then having a family you'd nearly need to kiss away for a long period of time.....

I didn't want it, even when I thought my body was ok to try it.  Wasn't willing to give that all up just to do an IM, let alone reach elite amateur.

@goughyi think you have your threads mixed up

[Prince 970]

1 hour ago, goughy said:

Personally, I think there's a difference between wanting it, and wanting it!  

Barring having any conditions that would make it more difficult, I think anyone has the physical ability to get there.  Mental ability, only a handful.  And timewise ability, where you'd pretty much have to train like a pro while using your recovery time to work a job, and then having a family you'd nearly need to kiss away for a long period of time.....

I didn't want it, even when I thought my body was ok to try it.  Wasn't willing to give that all up just to do an IM, let alone reach elite amateur.

is this about the astrazeneca vaccine?  Why didn't you want it? Do i need to schedule recovery time after i get it? 

[Yogi Bearista 43]

3 hours ago, goughy said:

Personally, I think there's a difference between wanting it, and wanting it!  

Yep -> , vs !

[Diamonds. 7]

On 08/04/2021 at 11:48 AM, Diamonds. said:

I had 2nd Pfizer shot 2 hours ago. Wife had hers yesterday and had some temps issues last night but is fine today.  

We both survived but had very similar (mild) post jab symptoms.  I had expected not to exercise but ran around for an hour of footy training 7hrs after mine and rode the trainer 24 hours later.  We both had waves of hot flush type searing hotness followed by some sweats.  Wife got a headache but I didn’t.   A bit anticlimactic after all the hoo-ha. 

[Peter 4,504]

[roxii 7,528]

1 hour ago, Diamonds. said:

We both survived but had very similar (mild) post jab symptoms.  I had expected not to exercise but ran around for an hour of footy training 7hrs after mine and rode the trainer 24 hours later.  We both had waves of hot flush type searing hotness followed by some sweats.  Wife got a headache 

….or so she claimed   

[Peter 4,504]

China are smashing out the vaccines. 

[-- AJ -- 659]

19 minutes ago, Peter said:

China are smashing out the vaccines. 

Pffft.  Numbers are meaningless when taken out of context.

Considering the population of China is almost 1.5 billion, they've only done somewhere between 5%-10% of the population.  Well behind Israel (58%), UK (47%) and Chile (37%) but still better than Australia (1.8%) and NZ (0.9%)

I got my numbers from here

Edited Friday at 07:47 AM by -- AJ --

[Peter 4,504]

What % are we at?

[Mike Del 502]

On 08/04/2021 at 6:05 PM, more said:

Because when there is a bushfire morons tend to not care if it was you who dropped the match, only that you have a bucket of water to put out the flames...

That and peoples political affiliation makes them blind to any wrong doing. Lol I almost got banned from this site for pointing out Dans mistakes because all of the lefties here didn't like it...

No I think it was actually because you were abusing people who didn't agree with you, even after being warned you continued causing some members to leave Transitions all together. It's all still if you care to scroll back. 

I can't understand those numbers AJ. I just saw on the news we just passed 1 Million having their 1st shot of vaccine, which is a lot more than 1.8%. Unless you are not counted as vaccinated until you've had your 2nd shot,. That might explain the 1.8% figure for Aus I guess.

My sister who's working at Prince Charles Hospital had her 1st shot a couple of weeks ago (AstraZeneca) and had a hell of time afterwards. Sore joints, aches and pains, headaches and a fever. It lasted two days after the shot. She recons a couple of the other staff had similar reactions. She said those who've had the Phyzer shot have had no issues. 

Apparently I need my vaccine shot asap, and I'm booked in for next week but the GP is now refusing to do it no unless he can get me some Phyzer.

Edited Friday at 08:21 AM by Mike Del

[Peter 4,504]

47 minutes ago, Mike Del said:

No I think it was actually because you were abusing people who didn't agree with you, even after being warned you continued causing some members to leave Transitions all together.

Sadly you still haven’t left.  
 

[Mike Del 502]

23 minutes ago, Peter said:

Sadly you still haven’t left.  
 

Well my cancer has spread so you may have something to smile about soon Peter 

[truck 584]

2 hours ago, -- AJ -- said:

Pffft.  Numbers are meaningless when taken out of context.

Considering the population of China is almost 1.5 billion, they've only done somewhere between 5%-10% of the population.  Well behind Israel (58%), UK (47%) and Chile (37%) but still better than Australia (1.8%) and NZ (0.9%)

I got my numbers from here

There's a study indicating the UK will hit herd immunity level on Monday.  They're running 3 vaccines now and my rellies are already being told they will get a booster in September - interestingly we don't appear to be looking at Moderna which is what both the US and UK are using so not sure if the producers can't be bothered to put it through the TGA or if there's another reason?  Then the Feds tonight are saying that if you get vaccinated with something other than what the TGA has approved then it won't count for re-entry into Aus without doing the full HQ thing.  Tough luck on Aussies living in Hong Kong or China getting the Chinese version or US/UK residents getting the Moderna one.  ScoMo repeatedly says we have the best scientists in the world - I have no idea if that statement is correct but it just seems highly unlikely but that's where he gets his advice from.

[-- AJ -- 659]

2 hours ago, -- AJ -- said:

Pffft.  Numbers are meaningless when taken out of context.

Considering the population of China is almost 1.5 billion, they've only done somewhere between 5%-10% of the population.  Well behind Israel (58%), UK (47%) and Chile (37%) but still better than Australia (1.8%) and NZ (0.9%)

I got my numbers from here

And the very next post.

2 hours ago, Peter said:

What % are we at?

Ever get that feeling that nobody ever appreciates the effort you go into to get accurate(ish) information and post the reference.🙄

[Peter 4,504]

So who’s vaccinated the largest percentage? 

[Mr Flower 546]

19 hours ago, Mike Del said:

Apparently I need my vaccine shot asap, and I'm booked in for next week but the GP is now refusing to do it no unless he can get me some Phyzer.

Pfizer. I hope your GP knows what he/she is doing. If they are trying to get Phyzer then they may be waiting a long time. By the way the Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at -70 degress celsius, so I don't expect many GPs will be given that vaccine. You would need to use a hub or clinic that has specialised equipment to store and distribute. 

[Mike Del 502]

4 hours ago, Mr Flower said:

Pfizer. I hope your GP knows what he/she is doing. If they are trying to get Phyzer then they may be waiting a long time. By the way the Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at -70 degress celsius, so I don't expect many GPs will be given that vaccine. You would need to use a hub or clinic that has specialised equipment to store and distribute. 

Yeh he doesn’t really want to do it full stop despite my haematologist telling him clotting won’t be a problem for me, in fact the opposite is more likely. My platelets are around 10-20 unless I’ve recently had a transfusion.

He’s trying to organise a Phyzer jab for me the the hospital next week.

[Mike Del 502]

20 hours ago, Peter said:

So who’s vaccinated the largest percentage? 

Are the counted as vaccinated after one shot or two? It wouldn’t surprise me if some countries are recording people as vaccinated after one Shot to make their figures look good.

[Mike Del 502]

Any know if Scomo had the Phyzer or AstraZeneca vaccine?

[-- AJ -- 659]

Just now, Mike Del said:

Any know if Scomo had the Phyzer or AstraZeneca vaccine?

or a plain Saline solution placebo?

[Oompa Loompa 936]

5 minutes ago, Mike Del said:

Any know if Scomo had the Phyzer or AstraZeneca vaccine?

Think slo mo just had it himself and gave up...we certainly are not at the front of the queue or 4 million Australians done by April like the liar from the shire said would happen. 

Wish he would piss of back to hawaii and let gladys take over the roll out like he left everything else covid to her.

 

 

[more 911]

I don't understand the big rush for all of Australia to be vaccinated?? We are basically virsua free, let the rest of the world be the Guinea pigs. If anyone wants to go over seas let them so long as they have been jabbed. 

What am I missing? 

[roxii 7,528]

29 minutes ago, more said:

If anyone wants to go over seas let them so long as they have been jabbed. 

What am I missing? 

That’s the problem, I’d like to go os to visit my dad but I can’t get a jab and looks like I won’t be fully vaccinated till next year now. He’s 83 I’m running out of chances to see him. 

[more 911]

Just now, roxii said:

That’s the problem, I’d like to go os to visit my dad but I can’t get a jab and looks like I won’t be fully vaccinated till next year now. He’s 83 I’m running out of chances to see him. 

That's the thing though huh, instead of worrying about vaccinating every body just vaccinate people like yourself who need to go overseas. Everyone else can wait, there is no rush??? 

[roxii 7,528]

12 minutes ago, more said:

That's the thing though huh, instead of worrying about vaccinating every body just vaccinate people like yourself who need to go overseas. Everyone else can wait, there is no rush??? 

Yeah absolutely, I’d even pay for it 

[Oompa Loompa 936]

Vaccination shouldnt be a problem we are even discussing.  We should not even have to discuss x needs to go, or Y wants to go overseas, and look for excuses as to why, why not.  Our Govt has not upheld what they said they would do and we know it was very much possible as the usa and uk are doing it.  

We just have an appalling federal political system at the moment, the govt is a disgrace and the opposition cant even lay a glove on them..which is probably worse again.   

Thank God for the State Premiers doing and taking over Cwth responsibilities or we would have a heap more dead.

Edited Saturday at 10:44 AM by Oompa Loompa

[more 911]

1 minute ago, Oompa Loompa said:

Vaccination shouldnt be a problem we are even discussing.  We should not even have to discuss x needs to go, or Y wants to go overseas, and look for excuses as to why, why not.  Our Govt has not upheld what they said they would do and we know it was very much possible as the usa and uk are doing it.  

We just have an appalling federal political system at the moment, the govt is a disgrace and the opposition cant even lay a glove on them..which is probably worse again.   

Thank God for the State Premiers doing and taking over Cwth responsibilities or we have a heap more dead.

The USA and UK are proper ****ed..so they need the vaccine. 

Besides political point scoring what is the problem? What difference will it make if you get jabbed now or in 6 months time? 

[Peter 4,504]

42 minutes ago, more said:

That's the thing though huh, instead of worrying about vaccinating every body just vaccinate people like yourself who need to go overseas. Everyone else can wait, there is no rush??? 

 

29 minutes ago, roxii said:

Yeah absolutely, I’d even pay for it 

It will come to this.  
 

I have no doubt you’ll be able to jump the queues if you pay.  
 

probably already happening 

[Toolish 435]

21 minutes ago, more said:

The USA and UK are proper ****ed..so they need the vaccine. 

Besides political point scoring what is the problem? What difference will it make if you get jabbed now or in 6 months time? 

If everyone gets the jab now my wife and thousands of others in the travel industry are probably more likey to keep their jobs?  

I wonder if vaccinations are going to become an entry condition for things like concerts etc too.

[goughy 3,891]

When I got mine, the nurse told me they charged a guy the week before; he'd booked in as an essential health care worker but was actually no longer one.  Think it was about $198.  Didn't refuse him though.

 

 

[more 911]

5 minutes ago, Toolish said:

If everyone gets the jab now my wife and thousands of others in the travel industry are probably more likey to keep their jobs?  

I wonder if vaccinations are going to become an entry condition for things like concerts etc too.

But as mentioned with Roxii if the people travelling overseas got the jab wouldn't this achieve this result (save the travel industry)?

Of the 25million odd people in Australia I'd image only a small % would travel overseas? Thus I still don't understand the urgency to get everyone vaccinated? 

Edited Saturday at 11:15 AM by more