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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

No Covid related deaths recorded in Aus today. Great news.

Vic with only 42 new cases as well.

Regional Victoria also now has 0 unknown cases and is below the 5 a day average required to go to the next step.  It will be interesting to see how this is addressed at todays press conference and also if that has a flow on affect for the Vic borders with both NSW and SA.

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Swab result - Covid negative. Just a coincidental illness. Means I can leave the house! Hooray! Have cancelled ambulance shift for Sunday because still feeling under the weather but back out again nex

On behalf of everyone else here on Trannies (apologies to those who I purport to be speaking for who don't share my view), mate, would you mind putting a lid on your intentionally inflammatory comment

Thought I'd check in with you all. Have to say I'm struggling a bit with redundancy, the virus and its knock on effects. Trying to stay positive but feeling quite 'isolated' over here now and starting

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5 minutes ago, Toolish said:

Regional Victoria also now has 0 unknown cases and is below the 5 a day average required to go to the next step.  It will be interesting to see how this is addressed at todays press conference and also if that has a flow on affect for the Vic borders with both NSW and SA.

Well, good news for us in regional Vic - opening up the next step, from tomorrow night I think

Didnt catch if gyms were opening back up, but kids and non-contact adult sport back.  Schools opening up (I think).  4 reasons to leave your house no longer apply. 

Increased checks on Melbourne metro travelling to regional areas. 

Hopefully it affects the NSW border as still only the 4 reasons to cross the border - adding recreation to that would be great. 

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4 minutes ago, chris said:

So not sure is I heard it correctly but dictator mark now want ms to send new arrivals to Christmas Island. Seriously this guy as gone to far 

Didn't "Dictator Dutton" do exactly that when this whole thing started?

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Didn't "Dictator Dutton" do exactly that when this whole thing started?

Yeah a plane of folks from Wuhan from memory. Not sure how much it helped, would love to see the genomic sequencing from the early Australian cases and see if they were from China or elsewhere. We also had people returning from the US in February and that floating petrie dish in March.

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15 minutes ago, -- AJ -- said:

Just out of interest.  Does anybody know if there was a 2 week quarantine period requirement for interstate  triathletes racing the 70.3 last weekend?

She's running no exceptions right? So would assume yes for at least NSW, VIC and ACT, and I would assume you would still have to apply to enter the state, and a 70.3 would not be essential, I mean seeing dying relatives is not essential, so why would a triathlon be?

Edit: there are internationals in the list of finishers. Guess they were allowed in.

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5 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

No Covid related deaths recorded in Aus today. Great news.

Vic with only 42 new cases as well.

They are saving them for later in the week. Will look better for Dan in his daily rant.  

4 hours ago, Turts said:

 

Increased checks on Melbourne metro travelling to regional areas. 

Hopefully it affects the NSW border as still only the 4 reasons to cross the border - adding recreation to that would be great. 

Interesting, I’m off to Bendigo next week.  Going to be interesting if I get stopped.  Its a Long way for a haircut, but image is everything 

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2 hours ago, Peter said:

I wonder what the number is?  Is it 2 kids or 20 or 50?

Note I didn’t watch video. In a meeting. 

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Increased drownings are a problem obviously. But my 2 follow up questions would be:

1. how does 4 or so months of pool closures over winter really impact swimming capability

2. With beaches, public pools closed, and being winter (so less beach swimming for the southern peeps), there is a reduced capacity for drownings in public places - so is the increase in home pools?  Where parents should be looking after their kids? 

 

Sadly, a young man drowned here earlier in the week. 

He was in his 20's and not an Australian resident.  To be pedantic, he was also illegally swimming in the River (NSW border is the Vic side of the river). Although the water is starting to warm up, as is the weather, so more and more people will be flouting the rules to swim in the river soon.  

Swimming lessons for kids weren't the problem. 

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19 minutes ago, Turts said:

Increased drownings are a problem obviously. But my 2 follow up questions would be:

1. how does 4 or so months of pool closures over winter really impact swimming capability

2. With beaches, public pools closed, and being winter (so less beach swimming for the southern peeps), there is a reduced capacity for drownings in public places - so is the increase in home pools?  Where parents should be looking after their kids? 

 

Sadly, a young man drowned here earlier in the week. 

He was in his 20's and not an Australian resident.  To be pedantic, he was also illegally swimming in the River (NSW border is the Vic side of the river). Although the water is starting to warm up, as is the weather, so more and more people will be flouting the rules to swim in the river soon.  

Swimming lessons for kids weren't the problem. 

Id guess the problem is kids can’t swim at pools where there are qualified people in case they get into trouble. Where they may be swimming in dams whilst parents are working online. 
 

kids aren’t at school all day now either. as I said, more info would have been good but that’s asking too much from Aussie journalists

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14 minutes ago, Peter said:

Id guess the problem is kids can’t swim at pools where there are qualified people in case they get into trouble. Where they may be swimming in dams whilst parents are working online. 
 

kids aren’t at school all day now either. as I said, more info would have been good but that’s asking too much from Aussie journalists

i can't even find the story, so who knows.   A quick google search gets me nothing on downing statistics for 2020. 

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5 hours ago, MissJess said:

She's running no exceptions right? So would assume yes for at least NSW, VIC and ACT, and I would assume you would still have to apply to enter the state, and a 70.3 would not be essential, I mean seeing dying relatives is not essential, so why would a triathlon be?

Edit: there are internationals in the list of finishers. Guess they were allowed in.

I think the internationals are actually residents put just have another nationality listed as their country.

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5 hours ago, -- AJ -- said:

Just out of interest.  Does anybody know if there was a 2 week quarantine period requirement for interstate  triathletes racing the 70.3 last weekend?

There wasn't any interstate athletes racing.

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8 hours ago, BogFrog said:

Yeah, cause if they had, you would've gone DOWN!!!

🤣🤣🤣

Depends who was coming I guess....were you planning a trip up? 😂

But yes, I have no doubt I would've been shuffled down the placings if there was a stronger field. 

Pity the 2021 World Champs are in a location I have no interest in. And who the heck knows what will be happening with this bloody 'rona next year anyway.

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And they don't actually seem bothered  that they are on par with India and Brazil!! with everyone else way behind.

Sadly the scale of the Indian situation will take over, but also no one seems to care about India as it's not a western nation

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1 hour ago, BarryBevan said:

And they don't actually seem bothered  that they are on par with India and Brazil!! with everyone else way behind.

Sadly the scale of the Indian situation will take over, but also no one seems to care about India as it's not a western nation

Only SOME people in their own country care.

Do you as an Aussie really care about what Brazil are doing or Malaysia? Insert any country here!

if you offered someone $1000 to tell you the current deaths or infected in any country outside of Aus and NZ, 95% of people wouldn’t have a clue.

without looking, what is the death count in Iraq? How many infected there?  
 

95% of the aussie population wouldn’t have a clue. I don’t. 
 

Americans probably don’t even know what it is in their country. 

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3 minutes ago, Peter said:

Only SOME people in their own country care.

Do you as an Aussie really care about what Brazil are doing or Malaysia? Insert any country here!

if you offered someone $1000 to tell you the current deaths or infected in any country outside of Aus and NZ, 95% of people wouldn’t have a clue.

without looking, what is the death count in Iraq? How many infected there?  
 

95% of the aussie population wouldn’t have a clue. I don’t. 
 

Americans probably don’t even know what it is in their country. 

Yes it is a global problem

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4 minutes ago, Merv said:

Victorian CHO has a few hurdles to jump in the enquiry 

He is in admin because he isn't a good dr.

One thing however, he is honest. He doesn't lie, not even for Dan.

He's just made bad decisions or should I say, given bad advice to Dan and his health department.

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4 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

What, you really think a polygraph could detect a politician lying?

It would probably work in reverse, the needle would start going crazy on the paper when they tell the truth 

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Daniel Andrews has faced yet another blow to his claim the military had not been made available to help with Victoria’s failed hotel quarantine program.

In a judicial inquiry into the program today, it was revealed that on June 20, the then Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy emailed Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton saying “ADF could help at very short notice”.

The email trail shows Mr Sutton saying the security guard “workforce is the wrong cohort” for the system.

 

I'm shocked and amazed.... 

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Another benefit from the border lockdown & 2 week quarantine for those from NSW & Victoria

Scomo, Albo etc can't get into Queensland without a 2 week quarantine period in a government facility.  

 

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4 hours ago, Peter said:

He is in admin because he isn't a good dr.

 

Interesting take.

Work as a doctor and make positive changes for 5-30 people a day, or work in public policy and make decisions that help thousands?

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1 hour ago, more said:

Daniel Andrews has faced yet another blow to his claim the military had not been made available to help with Victoria’s failed hotel quarantine program.

In a judicial inquiry into the program today, it was revealed that on June 20, the then Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy emailed Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton saying “ADF could help at very short notice”.

The email trail shows Mr Sutton saying the security guard “workforce is the wrong cohort” for the system.

 

I'm shocked and amazed.... 

he will never stand down. He will need his party to vote him out.  

27 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Interesting take.

Work as a doctor and make positive changes for 5-30 people a day, or work in public policy and make decisions that help thousands?

Has he?  Or has he killed 1000 aged care and destroyed their families that weren’t with them or got to say goodbye?

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ANU has released the results of tests done on 3000 healthy people (never tested positive to CV19) for CV19 antibodies (so have had CV19). This was done back in June/July so before Melbourne's outbreak.  Some interesting results;

"Our best estimate is that around 0.28 per cent of Australians - one in 350 - had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 by that time. This suggests that instead of 11,000 cases we know about from nasal swab testing, about 70,000 people had been exposed overall," said Associate Professor Cockburn. 

Today we're reporting 26000 positive tests - simplistically that could mean that the actual total could be around 165,000.  If so that's a pretty material outcome and a much lower mortality rate than we've been working to.

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Good to see that the model being used to base Vic's strategy on has been put together by the relevant experts;

"The lead researchers who built the model used for Daniel Andrews' COVID-19 "road map" aren't infectious diseases scientists.

The team does include epidemiologists such as New Zealander Tony Blakely. But his career has spanned computer science, economics, smoking and cancer.

Fellow Melbourne University professor Mark Stevenson is a road safety specialist who works in the Department of Architecture, Building and Planning. Jason Thompson is a psychologist who studies self-driving cars. The one non-Melburnian contributor, the University of New England's medical dean, Rod McClure, is an injury prevention expert."

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11 minutes ago, truck said:

Good to see that the model being used to base Vic's strategy on has been put together by the relevant experts;

Lack of experience or qualifications doesn't seem to stop anybody here from stating an opinion about lots of things.

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7 minutes ago, -- AJ -- said:

Lack of experience or qualifications doesn't seem to stop anybody here from stating an opinion about lots of things.

Whick would be remotely relevant if we were responsible for implementing policies that resulted in the loss of life and livelihoods... 

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3 minutes ago, more said:

Whick would be remotely relevant if we were responsible for implementing policies that resulted in the loss of life and livelihoods... 

But they're not responsible for implementing the policy.   They only come up with it.   Nothing stopping the Victorian government from throwing it out and starting again if they don't like it.  Just seems like somebody is looking fro a scapegoat.

 

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26 minutes ago, truck said:

Good to see that the model being used to base Vic's strategy on has been put together by the relevant experts;

"The lead researchers who built the model used for Daniel Andrews' COVID-19 "road map" aren't infectious diseases scientists.

The team does include epidemiologists such as New Zealander Tony Blakely. But his career has spanned computer science, economics, smoking and cancer.

Fellow Melbourne University professor Mark Stevenson is a road safety specialist who works in the Department of Architecture, Building and Planning. Jason Thompson is a psychologist who studies self-driving cars. The one non-Melburnian contributor, the University of New England's medical dean, Rod McClure, is an injury prevention expert."

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/modelling-victoria-s-escape-from-covid-19

It looks a bit different when you read this rather than the article in the Australian. It pains these open up people that we had a problem, they put in controls and we went from high hundreds to 42. So it worked

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5 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/modelling-victoria-s-escape-from-covid-19

It looks a bit different when you read this rather than the article in the Australian. It pains these open up people that we had a problem, they put in controls and we went from high hundreds to 42. So it worked

Thats an interesting read.   Thanks for sharing.

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1 hour ago, BarryBevan said:

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/modelling-victoria-s-escape-from-covid-19

It looks a bit different when you read this rather than the article in the Australian. It pains these open up people that we had a problem, they put in controls and we went from high hundreds to 42. So it worked

I’m not reading the article but the way it spreads its the 42 when they open things up that matter.  Not the 900 when no one can leave their homes or see people / family. 

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3 minutes ago, Peter said:

I’m not reading the article but the way it spreads its the 42 when they open things up that matter.  Not the 900 when no one can leave their homes or see people / family. 

yes, what is the point?

They want that number to be lower than 42 so they can open up contact trace any new infections and whack a mole if they have to.

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I've volunteered for the Russian vaccine trials for Covid today.

I received my first shot this morning and want to let you know that it’s completely safe with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι χoρoshό я чувствуюсебя немного страннои я думаю, что вытащил ослиные уши.

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2 minutes ago, Peter said:

I've volunteered for the Russian vaccine trials for Covid today.

I received my first shot this morning and want to let you know that it’s completely safe with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι χoρoshό я чувствуюсебя немного страннои я думаю, что вытащил ослиные уши.

I'm told you should avoid russian vodka (peasant grade) unless you want to start your tractor with it.

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22 minutes ago, Peter said:

I've volunteered for the Russian vaccine trials for Covid today.

I received my first shot this morning and want to let you know that it’s completely safe with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι χoρoshό я чувствуюсебя немного страннои я думаю, что вытащил ослиные уши.

Poor donkey

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3AW reporting that some Victorian hotel security guards didn’t use hand sanitiser on religious grounds as it contained alcohol.
Could this be any more of a farce?
#springst 

 

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