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Just watched this. Get onto it if you can. This was an amazing doco 

the dawn wall. 

In an unbelievable story of perseverance, free climber Tommy Caldwell and climbing partner Kevin Jorgeson attempt to scale the impossible 3000ft Dawn Wall of El Capitan

8.3 on IMDb 

 

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They talk about the climb in the dawn wall.  It’s not the hardest climb but it’s up there.  

The solo no ropes guy won’t need to worry about superannuation.  

He wont live to 80 that’s for sure. 

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

They talk about the climb in the dawn wall.  It’s not the hardest climb but it’s up there.  The solo no ropes guy won’t need to worry about superannuation.  He wont live to 80 that’s for sure. 

That's the problem, they will keep going until they fail - fatally. I get the whole adrenaline rush thing, but there's also rank stupidity.

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37 minutes ago, symo said:

Check out "Valley Uprising"  - saw it on Netflix - fascinating history of climbing in the valley

I saw one that was pretty similar, but I think it was more than 4 years ago. It was a great documentary.

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7 minutes ago, The Customer said:

I saw Free Solo a couple of weeks ago - see it at a Cinema - it's stunning.

Incredible film. I left feeling exhausted 😂

Thanks TC. I will be. I could probably get it online now, but have decided not to spoil it and am waiting.

 

Though I do know 1 major spoiler.

 

He doesn't fall. :)

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Watched Dawn Wall at a special screening at the Astor before Christmas. Was a great film! Tommy is a really nice guy. I climbed a fair bit with him in France in 97 and USA in 98 when his was still a young but already very adept climber.

As to soloing, I did nothing comparable to what Alex does. But unless you have soloed, you won't understand or get the attraction. There is something zen like in the closed focus of the moment. Yes there is a much higher element of risk, but you need to remember that very few soloists are on routes that are at their limit so usually have a little in reserve.

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On 05/01/2019 at 9:55 PM, The Customer said:

I saw Free Solo a couple of weeks ago - see it at a Cinema - it's stunning.

Incredible film. I left feeling exhausted 😂

I saw Dawn Wall in October and Free Solo last month, both on the big screen. Visually compelling in the cinema. Yosemite is always stunning, as is the sense of perspective.

Free Solo is undoubtedly an ethically challenging and thought provoking movie. I left the cinema feeling conflicted, inspired and uncomfortable.

After seeing Tommy's climb in Dawn Wall, it was interesting to hear his thoughts regarding Alex's climb in Free Solo.

They're both eccentric and outrageously talented individuals. I don't think you have to be climber to find either movie rewarding and interesting.

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Lance has interviewed Honnold for the forward - should be a good insight. I heard a bit with him on the Rich Roll podcast, great to get an understanding into the mentality Behind the climb. He basically said he got to the point where he thought if the climb was ever going to be done, he would likely be the only one to be able to do it. So he started training, without setting a climb date, and kept training until he got to a point where he said ‘I’ve done enough work now, let’s go climb it’.

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Those climbing dudes are frigging nuts, insane and whatever!  I remember years ago the WWOS (saturday arvo) would have the climbing comps on, where they climb those built walls with a big overhang - used to love watching how fast they could go up.  Strong as buggers.

This ones in Holland

 

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3 hours ago, goughy said:

Those climbing dudes are frigging nuts, insane and whatever!  I remember years ago the WWOS (saturday arvo) would have the climbing comps on, where they climb those built walls with a big overhang - used to love watching how fast they could go up.  Strong as buggers.

 
I'll take that as a complement goughy.
 
This is the wall I competed on at the Birmingham world cup in 1997 during one of my 6 month climbing trips. I had planned on going back the following year after a solid training block and compete in the whole world cup tour but blew my elbows again.... Bad enough to have to official retire which is why I got into triathlons!

 

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On 08/01/2019 at 9:25 AM, FatPom said:

Annoyingly, my local indie cinema is showing it but only on weekdays at 9.45am or 12.15pm :( 

What's your point, FP??? I thought you had negotiated WFH into your contract?

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2 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

What's your point, FP??? I thought you had negotiated WFH into your contract?

Yeah but:

1)  I have a Mgr that actually expects us to work

2) I don't live 200mtrs from the cinema any more :(

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Finally got to Free Solo in a cinema. It's amazing on a number of levels. Aside from his incredible ability and metal calmness, I was taken aback by the torturous effect it had on the people around him.

I agree that it's somewhat conflicted but definitely worth seeking out. I went with the whole family and whilst my son and I climb, my daughter and wife (who don't) enjoyed it immensely.

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Cheers Peter, one for the to-watch list, Free Solo been on it for a while...

Just to balance how it was done back in the early 80s. This is the first solo ascent of the Eiger's North Face by Eric Jones - he was one of my heros back in my climbing days, and I'd visit his cafe in North Wales for a cuppa just to see him. There were a few routes around there, one of which claimed the life of Jim Jewell - he was climbing a relatively straight-forward route solo (Severe, well within my own capabilities back then - but not solo) and slipped. Considering how he'd solo'd The Axe (E4), it's that one moment without a rope...

 

 

 

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Saw "reelrock14" and the highlight of this one was "The Nose" (the crease on the face of El Capitan)  speed record, with Tommy Caldwell (dawn wall) and Alex Honnold (free solo) battle Yosemite dirtbags Jim Reynolds and Brad Gobright who held the record at 2:19.  Tommy and Alex want to go sub 2 (IMO the parallels to marathon are great).  Thoroughly recommended - it's a hoot!

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1 hour ago, zed said:

I wonder how many clowns are going to die trying to free climb after watching this...

Well, 2 died during the filming of it, one man seriously broke his legs and a woman broke her back and became wheelchair bound for the rest of her life...

But in answer to your question I confess to being one of the clowns who is going to die trying to free climb after having watched this - or at least having a fair crack at it.  Already doing the indoor climbing thing (a consequence of watching the dawn wall and free solo) and my first fall at about 15m this week was really scary/awesome/scary not the least of which was being belayed at the time by my 13 YO who weighs in at less than half what I do....

 

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15 minutes ago, Pete said:

Well, 2 died during the filming of it, one man seriously broke his legs and a woman broke her back and became wheelchair bound for the rest of her life...

But in answer to your question I confess to being one of the clowns who is going to die trying to free climb after having watched this - or at least having a fair crack at it.  Already doing the indoor climbing thing (a consequence of watching the dawn wall and free solo) and my first fall at about 15m this week was really scary/awesome/scary not the least of which was being belayed at the time by my 13 YO who weighs in at less than half what I do....

 

I do a bit of climbing... but this guy, perhaps he's not wired right. I can't remember the tricky section he couldn't conquer, but he tried and failed many times when roped in, then eventually got it. But doing it sans ropes.... is it bravery or as they alluded to in the doco, a kind of detachment from reality. Great to do ballsy stuff, but when there's a real chance of dying, then it's a bit shit really. Throwing your life away so cheaply...

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On 21/11/2019 at 12:57 PM, zed said:

I do a bit of climbing... but this guy, perhaps he's not wired right. I can't remember the tricky section he couldn't conquer, but he tried and failed many times when roped in, then eventually got it. But doing it sans ropes.... is it bravery or as they alluded to in the doco, a kind of detachment from reality. Great to do ballsy stuff, but when there's a real chance of dying, then it's a bit shit really. Throwing your life away so cheaply...

If they want to take ridiculous risks, then that's their call. 

But I feel for all those part of the support crew and film crew, family and friends, who would be there and see it. Imagine how they would feel, the guilt and their sense of responsibility even if they weren't responsible directly and couldnt have done anything to prevent it? 

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On 21/11/2019 at 10:24 AM, Pete said:

Saw "reelrock14" and the highlight of this one was "The Nose" (the crease on the face of El Capitan)  speed record, with Tommy Caldwell (dawn wall) and Alex Honnold (free solo) battle Yosemite dirtbags Jim Reynolds and Brad Gobright who held the record at 2:19.  Tommy and Alex want to go sub 2 (IMO the parallels to marathon are great).  Thoroughly recommended - it's a hoot!

You may have already heard, but the one the protagonists above,  Brad Gobright, died from a fall a few days ago.  He was a really endearing character and it is so sad to hear.  :(

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On 04/12/2019 at 12:54 PM, Pete said:

You may have already heard, but the one the protagonists above,  Brad Gobright, died from a fall a few days ago.  He was a really endearing character and it is so sad to hear.  :(

Stupid, tragic error. Forgot to tie a knot at the end of his rope.

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On 25/11/2019 at 4:46 PM, Turts said:

If they want to take ridiculous risks, then that's their call. 

But I feel for all those part of the support crew and film crew, family and friends, who would be there and see it. Imagine how they would feel, the guilt and their sense of responsibility even if they weren't responsible directly and couldnt have done anything to prevent it? 

You understand that when you listen to some of the film & support crew talk on the doco, Free Solo. They talk about the responsibility they feel in doing what they're doing, and how they want to be there, but don't want that fact to be any influence in alex's climb, or break his concentration in any way.

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11 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

You understand that when you listen to some of the film & support crew talk on the doco, Free Solo. They talk about the responsibility they feel in doing what they're doing, and how they want to be there, but don't want that fact to be any influence in alex's climb, or break his concentration in any way.

except it is also clear that not being an influence is entirely impossible given the fact that they are there, filming him. Just the fact it is being filmed changes the way you approach the climb, and possibly even your motivations and thinking. 
 

Great film.

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