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42km trail marathon. 800mtrs elevation.  4hrs11min,  came 5th overall, 3rd male and 1st male over 40.  £70 worth of OMM vouchers, wohoo 👍

Rode my bike 

City 2 Surf. Managed 54:11 so averaging 3:54 over 14k. Pretty chuffed! 6 minutes faster than two years ago 

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Over the past 5 months, I had been quietly training for my first stand alone marathon. Have done 4 IM and 3 ultras, but never a stand-alone. 

So lots of seriously wet “wet season” running, dark starts (with support from Nick as my security),  and many lonely hours. Three weeks ago I had to make the decision to pull back to the half marathon, as my hammy didn’t want to play the game. That decision was hard enough. With my physio and coach we reset, with a goal of a substantial PB (currently 1:45:29 from 2011).

Today started perfectly, on track for 11km. Then the wheels fell off....massively. Hammy lost power, tummy was ugh. I am most shattered and disappointed about today. At the moment the effort just doesn’t seem worth it.  And we finally had a break in the rain, but it decided to rain in and off, so high humidity to add to the fun.  

Ended up with 1.54.33.....not acceptable. 

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I was hoping to do the Bondi Ocean swim today but they cancelled it yesterday due to the impending forecast.

But as you can see by the photo today turned out almost perfect. 

 This would have been the last ocean swim for the season in Sydney .

 Instead I’ve had a sleep in and a vanilla slice :lol: 

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59 minutes ago, skel said:

Over the past 5 months, I had been quietly training for my first stand alone marathon. Have done 4 IM and 3 ultras, but never a stand-alone. 

So lots of seriously wet “wet season” running, dark starts (with support from Nick as my security),  and many lonely hours. Three weeks ago I had to make the decision to pull back to the half marathon, as my hammy didn’t want to play the game. That decision was hard enough. With my physio and coach we reset, with a goal of a substantial PB (currently 1:45:29 from 2011).

Today started perfectly, on track for 11km. Then the wheels fell off....massively. Hammy lost power, tummy was ugh. I am most shattered and disappointed about today. At the moment the effort just doesn’t seem worth it.  And we finally had a break in the rain, but it decided to rain in and off, so high humidity to add to the fun.  

Ended up with 1.54.33.....not acceptable. 

Bugger Skel but you'll come back. Chin up kiddo :)

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1 hour ago, skel said:

Over the past 5 months, I had been quietly training for my first stand alone marathon. Have done 4 IM and 3 ultras, but never a stand-alone. 

So lots of seriously wet “wet season” running, dark starts (with support from Nick as my security),  and many lonely hours. Three weeks ago I had to make the decision to pull back to the half marathon, as my hammy didn’t want to play the game. That decision was hard enough. With my physio and coach we reset, with a goal of a substantial PB (currently 1:45:29 from 2011).

Today started perfectly, on track for 11km. Then the wheels fell off....massively. Hammy lost power, tummy was ugh. I am most shattered and disappointed about today. At the moment the effort just doesn’t seem worth it.  And we finally had a break in the rain, but it decided to rain in and off, so high humidity to add to the fun.  

Ended up with 1.54.33.....not acceptable. 

Sorry to hear that Skel. It totally sucks when you've trained so hard for something and the body gives out just ay the wrong time. I feel for you.

But...  it was not all in vain. Your body has done the work and will remember it when you are able to get back to full training. You are fitter and stronger, apart from the hammy. Fingers crossed you can sort it out quickly.

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1 hour ago, roxii said:

I was hoping to do the Bondi Ocean swim today but they cancelled it yesterday due to the impending forecast.

But as you can see by the photo today turned out almost perfect. 

 This would have been the last ocean swim for the season in Sydney .

 Instead I’ve had a sleep in and a vanilla slice :lol: 

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47 minutes ago, roxii said:

I was hoping to do the Bondi Ocean swim today but they cancelled it yesterday due to the impending forecast.

But as you can see by the photo today turned out almost perfect. 

 This would have been the last ocean swim for the season in Sydney .

 Instead I’ve had a sleep in and a vanilla slice :lol: 

29823F2C-2402-43E0-B7DD-F85B8841609C.png

Does this mean there were double the vanilla slices? :yes:

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Finished the week off with the UQ Twilight half this evening - went 1.33.59 so a nice surprise especially after a big week.  315km on the bike and 70k of running including a 132/4k brick yesterday and 2k swim this morning.  Nearly 10 mins quicker than a year ago and still doing virtually no speed work so the result of lots of strength/endurance running.

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9 hours ago, roxii said:

I was hoping to do the Bondi Ocean swim today but they cancelled it yesterday due to the impending forecast.

I'm surprised by that. I did it in 2009, the year there was a cold current in and it was 14-15°. The lifeguards were pulling people out of the water with hypothermia - it was featured on Bondi Rescue. What was the forecast??

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Yesteday was 1:50 in Z2 @ 5:30s then 40 mins in the ocean pootling around...

Thoughts have immediately switched from "Have I done enough?" to "Have I done too much?"

Time for an extremely easy week this week.

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Yesterday was a 57km road race around the Barossa Valley after a 2nd & 3rd place in my last two races. I thought it was going to be my day to attack and have a crack for the win. The course was perfect for me a couple of 5min climbs and plenty of long power climbs, no crazy steep down hills & a 4km lumpy down hill run to the finish.

It was a great plan until all the crafty old bastards worked against me all race. I had two big cracks trying to solo off the front but couldn't get them to stick. Chased another guy down who put 400m on the peleton. Bridged across, took a turn and said lets work together to get away. He sat on and refused to pull at turn. I eventually sat up got back into peleton.

Got rolled in a spring finish. Waked away with 7th & just out the prize money.

Lesson learnt & back on Zwif this morning.

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4 minutes ago, truck said:

11am start??😂 I guess you don't have to worry about running in the heat of the day!  Have fun.

Mrs Monkie was so confused by the London Marathon starting at 1010... I only really got into this travelling a long way malarky since arriving in Oz so to her mind there was some kind of rule about races starting around 7am!

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7 hours ago, monkie said:

Mrs Monkie was so confused by the London Marathon starting at 1010... I only really got into this travelling a long way malarky since arriving in Oz so to her mind there was some kind of rule about races starting around 7am!

I'd rather it started earlier, having said that,  last Friday I still needed to de-ice the car before work.

Thinking about it, I suspect the late start is to allow folks to drive there Sat morning and set up camp etc. There is a lot going on at the festival all weekend.

I'm driving up from Newbury Friday night and staying in a Premier Inn, which is better than camping but only very slightly. :lol:

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This one is more of a question to all out there around training - 

On Monday night I did Tour of Watopia Stage 1 felt good all the way was able to average 2.2 w/kg over the 52 minute event.  Now to tonight for Stage 2 i could barely maintain 1.9 w/kg over the 1:08 event.  It literally felt like I was trying to ride in cement the whole time.

I have a dumb smart trainer, so no erg mode or controlling from zwift, so basically a flat ride with no resistance change other than me going up and down in gears.  checked the trainer and the rugrats haven't messed with it at all.  

So my question is, has anyone experienced this before where they are just gassed from the start for no apparent reason at all?

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I was good fr stages 1 2 3 but 4 I didn’t even finish in the top half of the field.  Racing the first 2 stages gassed me big time. 

I think it’s more we don’t race that hard otter. So when we do it hurts. 

Take solace that if there was a run off the Zwift session stage, you’d beat heaps  

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17 minutes ago, Peter said:

I was good fr stages 1 2 3 but 4 I didn’t even finish in the top half of the field.  Racing the first 2 stages gassed me big time. 

I think it’s more we don’t race that hard otter. So when we do it hurts. 

Take solace that if there was a run off the Zwift session stage, you’d beat heaps  

Peter, this was more than just that it felt like.  I have done hard interval sessions on consecutive days and never experienced anything like this.  Any other time competitive juices flow and I can usually keep pace with the riders around me at 2-2.4 w/kg for a significant amount of time, but tonight I was toast from the drop of the gate.

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7 hours ago, Stuie016 said:

Peter, this was more than just that it felt like.  I have done hard interval sessions on consecutive days and never experienced anything like this.  Any other time competitive juices flow and I can usually keep pace with the riders around me at 2-2.4 w/kg for a significant amount of time, but tonight I was toast from the drop of the gate.

Funny you mention this as I felt something similar yesterday. The first 30 mins felt like it was about 30 watts higher than indicated. I kept drifting back to 160 watts which felt tough, then in the second half I was holding 200 watts and it felt easy. I just out it down to needing to warm up?

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8 hours ago, Stuie016 said:

So my question is, has anyone experienced this before where they are just gassed from the start for no apparent reason at all?

Yes. Often. About once every 4 or 5 weeks. You just have nothing (check my posts in this thread for examples of me moaning about it). It's just nature. Your body is not a machine, it has ups and downs. Don't stress about individual sessions, the trend is what matters :)

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2 hours ago, monkie said:

Yes. Often. About once every 4 or 5 weeks. You just have nothing (check my posts in this thread for examples of me moaning about it). It's just nature. Your body is not a machine, it has ups and downs. Don't stress about individual sessions, the trend is what matters :)

I find I feel better and do better times/efforts in training around the full moon.

My best Ironman was on a full moon.  And before anyone says, I finished in daylight so nothing to do with seeing better. ;) 

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2 hours ago, more said:

Funny you mention this as I felt something similar yesterday. The first 30 mins felt like it was about 30 watts higher than indicated. I kept drifting back to 160 watts which felt tough, then in the second half I was holding 200 watts and it felt easy. I just out it down to needing to warm up?

If I'm doing intervals on the trainer (when I haven't found the pins that I'd rather stick in my eyes) I always find the first interval really hard - even after a decent warm up.  It's probably that you need to remind your body what to do.  The conversation in my is interesting as I force myself to push through the first rep - the second rep feels a lot easier even though the HR might be the same or higher...

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14 minutes ago, BogFrog said:

If I'm doing intervals on the trainer (when I haven't found the pins that I'd rather stick in my eyes) I always find the first interval really hard - even after a decent warm up.  It's probably that you need to remind your body what to do.  The conversation in my is interesting as I force myself to push through the first rep - the second rep feels a lot easier even though the HR might be the same or higher...

Talking of mind games-that's the beauty of Strava for me-again this morning after 30 mins I was ready to pull the plug and go back to bed. But the thought of everyone seeing me pull a heart muscle kept me going. Its funny the games we play in our heads to make the body do things it doesn't want to do..

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8 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Keep an eye on your health for the next couple of days. It could be the first sign of a flu/cold coming on.

Had a mild head cold last week, but have run (well lets call it a pacy jog :)) 3 times since with no struggles so hopefully it's not coming back.

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1 hour ago, Bored@work said:

152km in the hills & then home to mow the lawn for world nude gardening day

Pics or it didn't happen - I mean the ride, not the gardening...

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I haven't done anything for a week now after getting a flu/cold. I had planned to go swimming tomorrow, but now have to pick my wife & daughter up from an "80's" night at the EH sometime in the middle of the night. The worrying thing was, when I asked my wife what time to pick her up, she said my 23 year old daughter will ring me, cause she'll be the more sober.

Add to that that Summer finished up here this morning, and it's going to be cold tomorrow, and for the rest of the week.

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1500m swim in a 25m pool testing out my borrowed 3/4 wettie again.  I'm 1min faster over 1500m in a wettie than without, even swimming conservatively as I was feeling a bit off today.

Hope Byron will be a wettie swim, but it seems unlikely as water temp is still over 25 atm. I've developed the yips with ocean swimming after Noosa, but will just have to suck it up.

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7 hours ago, FatPom said:

42km trail marathon. 800mtrs elevation.  4hrs11min,  came 5th overall, 3rd male and 1st male over 40.

 £70 worth of OMM vouchers, wohoo 👍

Impressive! Those gentleman start hours must suit you 😂. 31k of trails here today with 1100m of elevation backing up a 136/5k brick yesterday. Feeling a bit tired....

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Thanks all.  Can'6t say there will be any backing up today. Currently lying in bed with a bag of frozen peas on my knee. :)

I've had on and off pain since my big tumble on a training run at Easter. Hopefully some RICE sessions will ease it. I'm backing the mileage right off this week.

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Sat - rode 60km with bike club coffee then 10km run 

Sun 28 km run zone 2 

Mon 5 km recovery run

Tues Trainer Road 1 hour then in evening track session with running club

Wed swim 1 hour just drills

Thurs Trainer Road sweet spot then 10km Tempo run HR 160-170

Today Rest day 

Tomorrow planning parkrun 

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On 05/05/2019 at 4:49 AM, FatPom said:

42km trail marathon. 800mtrs elevation.  4hrs11min,  came 5th overall, 3rd male and 1st male over 40.

 £70 worth of OMM vouchers, wohoo 👍

awesome work FP!

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Dropped the kids at Post Malone last night so ducked into the Olympic pool for a quick swim. 

Holy crap navigating the "fast" lane there was a nightmare.  I said to the Mrs it was like going the wrong way through Ikea. 

Dashed any thoughts of doing any serious swimming so just put the paddles on and plodded along. 

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25 minutes ago, roxii said:

Dropped the kids at Post Malone last night so ducked into the Olympic pool for a quick swim. 

Holy crap navigating the "fast" lane there was a nightmare.  I said to the Mrs it was like going the wrong way through Ikea. 

Dashed any thoughts of doing any serious swimming so just put the paddles on and plodded along. 

Sounds like you learnt your lesson and will go back to the medium lane where you belong.

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29 minutes ago, roxii said:

Dropped the kids at Post Malone last night so ducked into the Olympic pool for a quick swim. 

Holy crap navigating the "fast" lane there was a nightmare.  I said to the Mrs it was like going the wrong way through Ikea. 

Dashed any thoughts of doing any serious swimming so just put the paddles on and plodded along. 

 

2 minutes ago, Bored@work said:

Sounds like you learnt your lesson and will go back to the medium lane where you belong.

Fast/Medium is always an issue with me. I used to travel a bit so swam in a number of different pools. What some say is medium would beat every swimmer in the fast lane in others. I prefer some that actually put time estimates on the lanes.

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