symo 116 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 ok I have read through this - its a windup... right Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 7,201 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Maybe there is a job for kevin rudd in TA now. At every race he can be at the exit of T1 and T2 and keep saying "OK folks, gotta zip!" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nealo 1,657 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I reckon they should have no shirts as compulsory, and sloggos only (bikini style for women) then maybe some triathletes would take a bit more pride in their appearance put down the bacon sandwich (with side of red rooster healthy choice chips) and actually get in racing shape. For the love of God no! What excuse would I have then? Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 8,122 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I reckon they should have no shirts as compulsory, and sloggos only (bikini style for women) then maybe some triathletes would take a bit more pride in their appearance put down the bacon sandwich (with side of red rooster healthy choice chips) and actually get in racing shape. I think you should go to Loganholme or Mt Gravatt as well, and see if people really care about their shape and what it looks like in skimpy clothes. Link to post Share on other sites
kanga 41 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 'ken hell. Seriously ? 3 pages of ooh, er, blokes nipples ? Get over it. All of it. Link to post Share on other sites
DingoDave 130 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 the threat of a DQ for a zip violation !! still not as lame as the DQ given at Noosa recently for a 12 yr old boy handing his father a phone in the last 100m of the race so he could make contact and find them straight after ...as anyone who has been there it is a little busy around the finish area... so some man boobs and grey chest hair is not ok but women can race in a postage stamp and all is good ?? even if they are size 18 ,,, this Triathagig stuff just gets funnier Link to post Share on other sites
yoyo 1,326 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Theres been a zip nazi at Bribie for years. Fck he hated it when i had the full manifold out on a hot morning one time there.... Second time round i gave him a point and cupped my nuts... Link to post Share on other sites
maristrider 2 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 There was no mention on the post about penalties or being DQed. If there are TOs on the run course they usually politely ask people to do the zip up a bit. ie the TOs give them a stop-start penalty (they stop them to talk to them, don't they? ) Link to post Share on other sites
Tall Paul 430 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 still not as lame as the DQ given at Noosa recently for a 12 yr old boy handing his father a phone in the last 100m of the race so he could make contact and find them straight after ...as anyone who has been there it is a little busy around the finish area... : I agree that's a bit harsh but what did he need the phone for? If his family stayed where they were he knew where to find them - 100m from the finish line. Most competitors have family there and manage to find them without the need for a mobile. Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 The original post by TQ gave an explanation of why the rule exists. Things that were mentioned included sun safety, protection in case of a fall, and not being offensive to those with certain religious beliefs. I can't see that any of these is a valid reason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 7,201 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Whats offensive about this??? If anything the Japanese competitor in the white parachute tracky is way more offensive than me in flouro suggos running through a park in Bankstown. Link to post Share on other sites
downesy68 1,085 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I will make a commitment here and now that as a TO I will never ask a male competitor to zip up. And to make it fair I'll make the same commitment for female competitors. Link to post Share on other sites
Harts 242 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Ok I have secured the original picture so judge for yourself. I initially thought whilst eating lunch it was a piss take. I went away and came back an hour later and saw on my facebook feed this commotion about comments and it was subsequently removed. Judge for yourself. I am totally offended. Edited December 3, 2013 by Harts Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket Salad 1,163 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Bring back shirt optional triathlons. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fatrunner Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 For all of these reasons, why can an individual swim in speedos and not be warned? MM? The official reason please? Link to post Share on other sites
Parkside 1,203 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ok I have secured the original picture so judge for yourself. I initially thought whilst eating lunch it was a piss take. I went away and came back an hour later and saw on my facebook feed this commotion about comments and it was subsequently removed. Judge for yourself. I am totally offended. This is surely a joke. It's not April 1 is it. Some young kid in the office is playing with Meme generators or something. Instead of policing Zips TQ technical should 1) Hold triathlons at night negating risk of sun exposure 2) Mandate full length motorcycle leathers in case someone falls and abrades their skin 3) Letterbox drop within a 50km radius and warn people of certain religious beliefs there will be lycra-clad people pursuing their sport with zips exposing chest and navel. Also warn them never to go to the beach or watch commercial TV Hey TQ technical, how about posting pictures of blatant drafting and blocking as well as a gentle chat about dropping in on riders after you make an out of the saddle pass? That would be more useful. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fatrunner Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Bare torso from swim exit to cycle transition what about swim start to swim exit? Link to post Share on other sites
M & M 48 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I don't make the rules nor do I have any influence on this process. People are entitled to an opinion whether it be considered right, wrong or somewhere in between. I will collate the feedback and pass it on to the relevant parties. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy C 299 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 you have got to be farken kidding me M&M. Have a look through the photos at the 70.3 or IM world champs for a start. Even have a look at plenty of Elite ITU and Draft Legal pro races.......what planet are we on? Link to post Share on other sites
Toolish 426 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy C 299 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 its become like USA- because other dudes get fat they start bringing in social norms requiring all of us to wear kaftans 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TA-Events and Technical 3 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is a non-issue, I am not aware of anyone being given a time penalty or DQ at any stage for an unzipped trisuit. If anyone has seen a case of a DQ or time penalty for this I would be keen to hear from them at technical@triathlon.org.au. I will seek some information from the various State and Territory Triathlon Associations (STTA) on what may be their individual interpretations of this rule and a clarification will be issued to all TO's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,831 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think we need a full explanation of why the rule is there. M&M- is this something that you can provide or who could? Link to post Share on other sites
Mjainoz 1,039 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Whats offensive about this??? If anything the Japanese competitor in the white parachute tracky is way more offensive than me in flouro suggos running through a park in Bankstown. His arm is crossing the centre line. I'm offended anyone can run fast with form like that Link to post Share on other sites
tortoise 859 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ok I have secured the original picture so judge for yourself. I initially thought whilst eating lunch it was a piss take. I went away and came back an hour later and saw on my facebook feed this commotion about comments and it was subsequently removed. Judge for yourself. I am totally offended. Sorry, that's just a joke. TQ should be ashamed. Link to post Share on other sites
Wardy 339 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think we need a full explanation of why the rule is there. M&M- is this something that you can provide or who could? AA7 the rule requiring all competitors to have their 'chest' covered has been in place for years (about 10 I think). It's a TA rule and an ITU rule. I believe it was brought in with the aim of making the sport look more "professional" on TV as part of the campaign to get triathlon into the olympics. I think what TQ were trying to do, was clarify how it could be interpreted. (But I agree, posting the pictures on FB was never going to end well!) There really is no way to comprehensively define a rule like this. The 'common sense' approach (adopted by most female competitors) is along the lines of public decency (another nebulous concept) and keeping the nipples covered. But there will always be some guy complaining about this - so the rule got extended to not unzipping the suit. In fact under ITU rules, I believe that race suits with a zip in the front are not legal. Of course ITU and WTC are different worlds. So perhaps the great trannies collective intellect could come up with a way of unambiguously defining a rule that prevented racing completely topless? Then we can submit that to the technical area of Triathlon Australia - via your state association if you like (but be aware that the state TOs are there to enforce the TA rules in sanctioned races). Link to post Share on other sites
Wardy 339 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 To add: it's a bit like the requirement to wear your race number to the front on the run. I've never heard anyone DQd for it, but I've been told to move it - which I do (until it works its way around to the back again). If you're asked to do up your zip in a race, why not just do it instead of wasting energy being angry?? If your reaction is to abuse the (volunteer) official who has asked you to do this, then I hope you get the penalty you deserve for that. Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 920 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I need to give myself an uppercut. There's even nipple Link to post Share on other sites
Steely 63 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 gotta look real hard Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket Salad 1,163 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 gotta look real hardI not going to. Link to post Share on other sites
prizna 715 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I need to give myself an uppercut. There's even nipple Move this to the Triathletes behaving badly thread? You should be ashamed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 920 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Move this to the Triathletes behaving badly thread? You should be ashamed. Haha I know. Funny thing is as I was running up to the finish line I tried to zip it up but discovered it was stuck. Don't worry though a new tri suit has been ordered. Link to post Share on other sites
rory-dognz 805 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'm more concerned that you wore a tri suit on a MTB. I have to wear baggy shots over my bike shorts to ride my MTB. There are style rules in MTBing, including guys in no visible lycra; girls are okay. Link to post Share on other sites
clarkey 311 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Edited December 4, 2013 by clarkey Link to post Share on other sites
symo 116 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yea toughen up and run through the mud Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 920 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'm a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites
nealo 1,657 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 What race was this in Clarkey? You look to struggling a bit. Did you finish alright? Link to post Share on other sites
clarkey 311 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 What race was this in Clarkey? You look to struggling a bit. Did you finish alright? Hit the wall big time, my jugs gels fell out at 2km. Link to post Share on other sites
TUv5.0 370 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 TQ scrutiny for bells this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 920 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ironically the MTB I just borrowed actually HAS a bell Link to post Share on other sites
downesy68 1,085 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Don't you hate it when the photographer catches you on the downstroke? Link to post Share on other sites
clarkey 311 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Don't you hate it when the photographer catches you on the downstroke? Mate, that was taken on the upstroke. Link to post Share on other sites
downesy68 1,085 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The body may have been going up but the boobs are still on the way down. Link to post Share on other sites
clarkey 311 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The body may have been going up but the boobs are still on the way down. Oh, so NOW your complaining?! Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket Salad 1,163 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I still would. Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 680 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Once again TQ are pole vaulting over mouse shit. TQ sort out the big problems first. Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 901 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is a non-issue, I am not aware of anyone being given a time penalty or DQ at any stage for an unzipped trisuit. If anyone has seen a case of a DQ or time penalty for this I would be keen to hear from them at technical@triathlon.org.au. I will seek some information from the various State and Territory Triathlon Associations (STTA) on what may be their individual interpretations of this rule and a clarification will be issued to all TO's. Waffle, waffle, waffle. If it's a non issue, get rid of the rule. End of story. Pretty simple, and if you got to clarify that with the 7 dwarves it's very, very sad but then heh, a state association ran with it on the biggest social media platform in the world. No wonder the sport has declined since it's hey day and can't get decent sponsors or exposure anymore. More people enter colour runs to get dye thrown over them then enter a triathlon, why do you think that is ? How about you ask the STTA's whilst you're getting their views on zippers. Link to post Share on other sites
ratdog 614 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 i wonder if they will ask those people who run around with sponges tucked into their suits to stop that. like those bloke Link to post Share on other sites
bozza 54 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I will be running with my top zip down this weekend. Luckily I have left my kids at home, however if you think you'll be offended please avert your eyes. I will probably be walking around recovery with it completely off (top that is). This is likely to cause even more offence and likely to get me band from the ice cream table. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy C 299 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 i reckon more people will now go fully unzipped just to take the piss out the stupidity of it all Link to post Share on other sites
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