Jump to content

Average times for ...


Recommended Posts

Do you agree that for an average person to do the below ....

 

Running 10k under 40mins is a great achievement

Running 1 mile under 4 minutes is a great achievement

Swim 1km under 16mins

Bike ??

Ironman ??

 

Feel free to argue or correct these times and add other times

Link to post
Share on other sites
Do you agree that for an average person to do the below ....Running 10k under 40mins is a great achievement

Running 1 mile under 4 minutes is a great achievement

Swim 1km under 16mins

Bike ??

Ironman ??

 

Feel free to argue or correct these times and add other times

 

10km would be closer to 45min

 

4min mile......never..... not even for above average

 

18min for 1km

 

Bike 6hrs in an IM

 

IM...........they wouldn't do it.

 

We are talking about the average person right?

 

 

fluro

Link to post
Share on other sites

Agree on the 4min mile: not even within reach for above average runners.

 

If we are talking about your average fit person, I agree with those as good benchmarks:

40min 10k

3:30 marathon?

1:30 half marathon?

1hr for 40k TT

10hr for IM

5hr for HIM

 

I think a 5hr IM bike is a better achievement than those above

Link to post
Share on other sites
Swim 13min K

Bike ironman Sub 5hr

Run 35-40min 10k

 

40k -1hr bike just doesn't cut it

 

im sorry vakz,i thought peter asked for an "average" person, :lol:

pretty sure im average and pretty sure if i could manage 40k in an hour id be stoked :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Tricky when you talk about the individual disciplines of triathlon. There are so many ways to come up with a 10hr IM.

 

You wouldn't even have to be average at all three if your strong in one.

 

5hr HIM / 10hr IM. What were you thinking Coghead??

Link to post
Share on other sites
Agree on the 4min mile: not even within reach for above average runners.

 

If we are talking about your average fit person, I agree with those as good benchmarks:

40min 10k

3:30 marathon?

1:30 half marathon?

1hr for 40k TT

10hr for IM

5hr for HIM

 

I think a 5hr IM bike is a better achievement than those above

 

Good stuff here.

 

 

i was just throwing the 4min mile out there. neversaid I was right

Link to post
Share on other sites
Agree on the 4min mile: not even within reach for above average runners.

 

If we are talking about your average fit person, I agree with those as good benchmarks:

40min 10k

3:30 marathon?

1:30 half marathon?

1hr for 40k TT

10hr for IM

5hr for HIM

 

I think a 5hr IM bike is a better achievement than those above

 

40min 10k and 3:30 marathon don't seem compatible to me. When I was running 39min 10k I ran a 3:05min Marathon with some very messed up achillies. Just a thought. Maybe make it 3:10-3:15?

Edited by dazaau
Link to post
Share on other sites
Do you agree that for an average person to do the below ....

 

Running 10k under 40mins is a great achievement

Running 1 mile under 4 minutes is a great achievement

Swim 1km under 16mins

Bike ??

Ironman ??

 

Feel free to argue or correct these times and add other times

Age of this 'average' person?

Link to post
Share on other sites

IMO, the 'average' triathlete would be happy to do

Swim

400m: 6.00-6.30

1k - 16-17 minutes

 

Ride

40k: 1.10

Half: 3.00-3.10

Full: 6.30-7.00

 

Run

5k: 22 - 25

10k: 45 - 50

Half: 1.35 - 1.40

Marathon: 3.30-4.00

 

Come on, shout me down!

Link to post
Share on other sites

I reckon for a 25-40 year old...

 

 

Very Good. ie properly trained

 

10km - sub 37

Mara - sub 3

40K bike TT - Sub 58

Half IM - Sub 4:30

IM - sub 9:30

 

Good. ie trained but not perfectly due whatever factors

 

10km - sub 40

Mara - Sub 3:30

40K bike TT - sub 62

Half IM - sub 4:50

IM sub 10:45

 

Average. ie a person who 'has a go' at these after some training

 

10km - sub 50

Mara - sub 4:20

40km bike TT - sub 1:10

Half IM - sub 6

IM - sub 13

Link to post
Share on other sites
Good. ie trained but not perfectly due whatever factors

 

10km - sub 40 havent done one in ages but did 40:20 for the first 10km of C2S today

Mara - Sub 3:30 3:21 might be a little soft

40K bike TT - sub 62 not sure 30:XX for 20km

Half IM - sub 4:50 4:51

IM sub 10:45 10:49

These times arent that far from mine actually, and i consider myself a good triathlete, very undisciplined with training, and diet.

 

swim 1 km = 15:10

Link to post
Share on other sites

Mine are somewhere in between those and the 'Very Good'. Before people get up in arms, I am not saying that those V Good times are for everybody but are what I class as Very Good and would be happy to do any of them. I think that the ;Good' times are achievable by any uninjured/healthy 25-40 year old person who is willing to do the training. I can't think of anything that would be a limiter. Some of the V good ones I will conceed may be limited. For example, not too many 90+kg dudes run sub 3 marathons but plenty will ride under 58. Also, I am not stating if you can do any one of them you are able to do the other. I think that they are of equal level within each pool of performance.

 

Right now I would be happy with any of the average performances though :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites
Good. ie trained but not perfectly due whatever factors

 

10km - sub 40

Mara - Sub 3:30

40K bike TT - sub 62

Half IM - sub 4:50

IM sub 10:45

 

Plaz, something amiss there I reckon. I can't do any of the first 4 but have done the 5th twice by a bit either side of 20 mins.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Remember I said that if you can do one it does not mean you can do the other. I said that each of those looks to be about the same within each individual 'orb of excellence'. I am going to copyright that :lol:

Edited by Plazbot
Link to post
Share on other sites
I think a 5hr IM bike is a better achievement than those above

 

Not if you're getting off and running 5+ hours :lol:

 

If you're doing a 5hr bike and can back it up with a 3:30 run, then that's an achievement!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Which Marathon or Ironman Course? 9:30 at Port is Very Good is it worth as much as 9:30 at Busso?

 

40km TT on a track or in the wind on a hilly course? I once rode 47km in 58min with a back pack on a commute to work. But I would struggle to do 40k for an hour in calm conditions on the flat.

 

10km run is that track or a course with hills or a down hill course?

 

 

I would consider a better measurement of averageness is ones placing in a field of a given event. Like top % of finisher’s times, this way it is easier to keep things real(Yes, I know I use this term a lot, but if you think about it, it is kind of important).

Link to post
Share on other sites
Average. ie a person who 'has a go' at these after some training

 

10km - sub 50 47something

Mara - sub 4:20 4:25 disaster - should have been around 30mins quicker based on 34km training times

40km bike TT - sub 1:10 1:06

Half IM - sub 6 5:24 cruise

IM - sub 13 12.19

 

I reckon Plaz is pretty much on the mark. Maybe the 6hour is a bit soft for HIM.. maybe more around the 5:30-5:45 time.

40swim, 2:50 ride, 2hour run

Edited by Steno
Link to post
Share on other sites

Have a look here and it might give some clues to this sort of stuff. Like a 17:30 5km time (typically a VO2max of ~65mlO2/kg/min needed) is top 0.5% (1 in 200) fitness for young males and 1 in 10000 for 40-49 yo males.

 

I think 'athletic' groups like this/us have a skewed perception of just how relatively fit they are c.f. 'average'. For perspective on IM I liked this part

"any older athlete, particularly any older female athlete that finishes an Ironman under 17hrs is VERY FIT! Even an older guy of 40+, who finishes an Ironman under 17hrs is likely fitter than 98% of 40 y.o guys across the country! This puts ‘Iron fitness’ into true perspective.

 

The magnitude of a tough Ironman finish for an older athlete is borne out in the results. In Lake Placid in 2009, for instance, 1 out of every 5 guys in the 60+ age groups DNFed or failed to finish within the cut-off. For the 20-29 guys, only 1 in 23 failed to make it. For the women, a finish is even more impressive. Of the 5 females who started in the 60+ age groups, only 1 was able to complete the course under 17hrs!"

 

The VO2 max tables in that blog give some idea of where the bulk of people sit. But you never know how far they will get if they start training properly......

 

My suggestions: for younger males

Running (roughly from Daniels' tables) a Vdot ~42 gives

5km 23min

10 km 48

HM 1:46

Mar 3:40

 

 

Swimming much more technique dependent, with huge variation in efficiency, so

1km ~17

 

Bike (maybe look up Coggan's tables)

ftp ~3w/kg?

Link to post
Share on other sites

I reckon our idea of average is distorted. Suggesting that an average runner with training can run a sub 40 min 10km is not correct.

 

Look at any of your 10km fun runs and only the top few percent will run this fast. Even a sub 45 min gets you in the top 25%.

 

My thoughts:

 

Average is someone with average genetics (no such thing of course)

 

 

10km - sub 43 +/- 2 min

Mara - sub 4

40km bike TT - 1:06 +/- 3 min

Half IM - 5:15 +/- 15

IM - ?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Average. ie a person who 'has a go' at these after some training

 

10km - sub 50

Mara - sub 4:20

40km bike TT - sub 1:10

Half IM - sub 6

IM - sub 13

 

This is about me, although i haven't yet done a HIM (not until this weekend anyway), IM or Mara. Definitely aiming for sub 6 at Yeppoon, 10k PB 46.30 on flat 50.xx Mool OD, 1.15 bike at Mool, Half Mara PB 1.52.

 

I'm 42 with no sporting background apart from footy as a kid/young adult. I'm probably 5kg overweight, train regularly but not particularly seriously, do tris for fun and fitness, and consider myself fitter than most people my age (outside of my triathlon friends and aquaintances.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm exceptional - must be as i've been doing this tri stuff for 20+ years :D

 

But my times are bloody average :lol:

 

Bests are:

 

Swim 1km (25m pool) - 16:45 @ age 40

40km TT - never done one, 100km TT (not flat) in 3:02 @ age 45

Run 5km (v hilly) - 21:30 @ age 40

Run 10km (flat) - 42:30 @ age 45

HM (flat) - 1:34 @ age 43

HIM (Port) - 5:15 @ age 45

Mara - never done one

IM - never done one

 

Before i started all this tri training, and just weights and the odd 15min run round the block, smoked socially and got hangovers, i finished a 3km fun run in 10:30 @ age 25 :lol: Never looked like running that fast since i took up serious training :D But i'd have struggled to run 10km then at any pace :D

Edited by Thommo227
Link to post
Share on other sites
Plaz, something amiss there I reckon. I can't do any of the first 4 but have done the 5th twice by a bit either side of 20 mins.

 

That's really interesting Diamonds,

 

What were your splits for the 10 20ish IMs? On what courses?

 

Cheers

Link to post
Share on other sites
×
×
  • Create New...