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  1. Mate if you think they are ending up in prison because of one or two unpaid small fines then you've got the wrong end of the stick. Likewise if you don't think they seek other remedies like community service first.
  2. Sounds great. What's your suggestion? A prize wheel they spin on sentencing with a "get out of gaol free" slot? Can't put people in gaol. Can't fine them. What's left? Community service? Corporal punishment? Or do we say that simply because they are aboriginal they should automatically receive a lighter sentence? Sentencing already takes account of the factors of disadvantage the individual suffers. If we say that simply being indigenous is a mitigating factor what are we really saying? That they can't help themselves? That it's in their nature? I think there might be a pr
  3. The statistics pointed out several times above that deaths in custody is in fact less of a problem for the aboriginal community than it is for the non-indigenous (per head of prison population.) The number of aboriginal deaths in custody is due to the high rate of imprisonment, yet there are numerous studies that indicate that sentencing rates are similar for indigenous and non-indigenous when controlled for offence, criminal history, etc. If you think that issues of rampant substance abuse, violence and sexual trauma aren't at very least strongly linked then I don't think it's More who
  4. I don't think More is being "that guy". From what he says he's one person on here that has been in the thick of it and seen the reality. His statements and observations have been about contrasting the perceived threats to aboriginals that get massive attention against the real threats that receive very little. He isn't saying that we shouldn't be concerned about the other stuff, only that we can't ignore the things that are killing and ruining literally thousands of lives.
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    Well ten years is way to early to judge "never" but the truth is there is no real imperative to eradicate it once a vaccine is found. If spread can be limited then medical services have capacity to take care of most cases just fine.
  6. Unless it had some sort of specific reference to African-Americans physically connected to it then a noose is no more representative of lynching than it is of capital punishment, which is still practised in 30-odd states of the U.S. (the only developed western nation to do so). If held to the same tenuous standard the presence of a gun or knife would be equally representative of unjust black deaths. Now what I'm picking up is that it was obviously a reference to lynchings because it was in a location where white people who are considered rednecks predominate. Now if you want to look at
  7. Yeah, I'm soz but if you fear a threat because something is reminiscent of something else that was happening a hundred years ago then you have bigger problems than society should have to deal with. If that was reasonable there would be a lot more concern about COVID-19 because of the Spanish flu. It's confected outrage. And yes, if the threat is imagined it absolutely takes away the significance. If you don't accept that premise then you must accept that the invasion of Iraq because of the thread of WMDs was completely justified. Anything else is cognitive dissonance.
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    I'm sorry Chris, do you think any of those things actually fill from tourists within Australia and New Zealand? Or are you suggesting we open the borders to the U.S., U.K., Europe, Asia? If you think that's even remotely close for any state in Australia you're delusional. Not a single one of those issues will be fixed by opening to NSW and Vic.
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    What exactly are we (Western Australia) missing out on by keeping our borders closed that is of vital importance? Freight is getting through. People can travel here if they have a reason and are prepared to isolate or have an exemption (of which there are many.) I'm certainly not seeing or hearing of many businesses that are suffering due to the border restrictions. Yes there is a loss of tourism but where would you think would be a safe option to get tourists from? Who is taking significant holidays at this uncertain time? And why would you risk the loss of most industries in the ev
  10. If there's one thing we know about 'Merica it's that they'll get out to riot way easier than they'll come out to vote.
  11. A place I worked we had a great young aboriginal apprentice. He was enthusiastic, clever and really enjoyed what he was doing. Every payday there would be a gathering of his relatives at the gate to meet him. As a first year he wasn't earning much anyway but the poor kid never had a cent because he had to give it all away as soon as he got it. I'm not sure if he finished the year out. It's no different to an office where there is one or two workers who get away with murder and management completely ignore it. They might not get all the same rewards you do but what they miss out on is
  12. But it's okay to destroy someone because they dressed up in black face thirty years ago? Hypocrisy at its finest.
  13. What an offensive, disempowering thing to say. Convincing people they don't have the control over their own actions is about as oppressive as you can get.
  14. Yes, it's true. Even if the police have called off the chase I understand.
  15. People die everywhere, every day. Very, very, very few deaths in custody are from any cause directly related to their being in custody. The vast majority are from natural causes and I daresay (this is just an educated guess) probably receive better medical care from within the system than they would have outside of it. If your aim is zero deaths in custody then you simply can't have people in gaol at all. That's fine if you're prepared to deal with the implications of that.
  16. Indigenous deaths in custody is a non-issue from a racial bias perspective. The statistics are very, very clear. An indigenous person in gaol is far less likely to die than a non-indigenous person in gaol, from all causes including natural. On the outside the situation is heavily reversed but if we were to look at that properly we'd have to confront some very ugly truths that we simply don't want to.
  17. I feel like I am suddenly encountering prejudice and I don't like it. Doesn't matter if I'm not Bavarian, I identify as one and you're trampling on my nonexistent rights.
  18. Anyone has the right to be offended by anything, they always have. That's not the problem. The problem is the expectation, nay demand, that people have a right to not be offended. Of course only those that believe this tend to be of a more liberal way of thinking but it's not exclusive. Ironically forgetting that if you forget history you are most likely to repeat it. I'm a tall, white, middle-aged, middle-class male living in one of the best countries in the world. I pretty much have nothing to complain about so I realise that I can't really understand how it is to be downtro
  19. Oh I'm not suggesting that he wasn't correct in his assessment of me, just that it was racist. He should've just called me a c*nt and kept my race out of it. He breached section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act but nobody is going to think it would be fair an reasonable for him to be held to account in court. @Mike Del what I mean is that you can say "racism is racism" but it's not when how it is judged is entirely dependent on the context. If it was then every instance would be equally frowned upon yet we have laws that allow employers to advertise indigenous only positions. We h
  20. I'm not comfortable referring to it as positive discrimination. I'm not sure that there's anything positive about it for the recipients or anyone else.
  21. As I said in my original comment and since, context matters. This was your quote I was replying to and you're ignoring the context. If, as you say, a racist comment is a racist comment regardless then whether it's said by someone who's white, black, Asian, gay, straight or alien it should be dealt with in the same way. It's not and probably never will be. Nobody looked twice the other week when an Aboriginal gentleman shouted at me that I was a white c*nt when literally all I did was say "no" to his request for a dollar while walking out of the shops in a suit. Context matters. T
  22. Exactly what I said. Context ALWAYS matters. Judging people for comments from decades ago or from an environment or interaction where those within that context had neither an issue with it nor an intent to be offensive or cause harm is absurd. That's why legal convictions are rare, because they have to take the rational approach that nothing is black and white (pardon the pun.)
  23. So an African-American calling another one n*gger or a homosexual calling a friend a queen should be equally criticised and punished? Context ALWAYS matters and while there are plenty of instances that demand a reaction too many people seem willing to ignore context when it suits them. George Floyd didn't deserve to die under the knee of a police officer but he also didn't do anything in his life that warranted celebration or a celebrity funeral.
  24. Looks like there's a live Q&A with Miles and Michelle on Facebook at 7pm AEST today.
  25. We know you drop by occasionally, we just don't care. Unlike you flat-landers we have plenty of room to spare and if you want to drive half an hour to visit before riding through our wonderful scenery and spending your ill-gotten funds with our hard-working business-people running cafes and doughnut vans then please do. 😜
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