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47 minutes ago, prizna said:

Don't give me your pity, I'm still a dick.

Apologies for the lack of responses I've been off driving bright red convertible vw beetles, drinking beers, swimming with turtles and being a genuine legend.

Thanks for the critique Peter, sorry to read you're full of shit as usual. Fortunately for me I'm in a pretty sweet position where the money wasn't too much of concern. My wife cried for me when I told her I got the DQ. A moment where I realised how much of not just my life went in to the race and everything prior, it's truly not a solo adventure.

Racing IMWA again this year?

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16 minutes ago, zed said:

Racing IMWA again this year?

With a DQ to his name now he will get residency in WA. 

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2 hours ago, roxii said:

With a DQ to his name now he will get residency in WA. 

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10 hours ago, BarryBevan said:

We have moved past arguments about how to train, how awesome Wurf is and now debate who is a more credible TO.

Demonstrating how Peter is full of shit is constant through it all though. 

 

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3 hours ago, roxii said:

Hey, don’t put words in my mouth. I never said you weren’t a dick :lol: 

Glad you didn't get the words mixed up in those sentences mate...

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4 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

Glad you didn't get the words mixed up in those sentences mate...

:lol: :lol: :lol: 

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1 hour ago, Cottoneyes said:

Demonstrating how Peter is full of shit is constant through it all though. 

haha you crack me up. 

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23 hours ago, zed said:

If they are taking down bike descriptions, then surely he has enough evidence to overturn the DQ? Did they TOs have cameras, it's the world champs. They had them in South Africa for the 70.3 worlds and Busso. I've even seen them in local races. 

I hope so for Prizna’s sake, but how often do official rulings get overturned in any sport? Normally the refs decision is final, no matter what the video replays or evidence says. Time might also work against him here. No one will remember shit 2 weeks after the fact. 

He hangs a lot of shit on here so opens himself up to get some back every now and then. He would have been pretty cut about his finish time and race, but toughed it out to finish. So good on you buddy.

I’m looking forward to his race report.

Well done to all those tranny’s who raced.

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1 hour ago, Kenneth said:

I hope so for Prizna’s sake, but how often do official rulings get overturned in any sport? Normally the refs decision is final, no matter what the video replays or evidence says. Time might also work against him here. No one will remember shit 2 weeks after the fact. 

He hangs a lot of shit on here so opens himself up to get some back every now and then. He would have been pretty cut about his finish time and race, but toughed it out to finish. So good on you buddy.

I’m looking forward to his race report.

Well done to all those tranny’s who raced.

I didn't do it said nearly everyone who ever got busted for anything. This is the shaggy defence:

 

 

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10 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

I didn't do it said nearly everyone who ever got busted for anything. This is the shaggy defenc

 

ain't that the truth! Some of the excuses are laughable. I got well and truly done in South Africa last year. It was busy and every other mofo was doing it so I joined in the party and got my 5 minute rest.... I'm a good boy in Australia though. 

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2 hours ago, zed said:

ain't that the truth! Some of the excuses are laughable. I got well and truly done in South Africa last year. It was busy and every other mofo was doing it so I joined in the party and got my 5 minute rest.... I'm a good boy in Australia though. 

Starting to have sympathy for drafting pens these days. The big WTC races have so may people stuffed onto a course at the same time and it only takes a few people who don't do the right thing that it creates huge packs and drafting situations for those doing thier best to ride clean, that due to physics simply can't get out of.

 

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2 hours ago, BarryBevan said:

Starting to have sympathy for drafting pens these days. The big WTC races have so may people stuffed onto a course at the same time and it only takes a few people who don't do the right thing that it creates huge packs and drafting situations for those doing thier best to ride clean, that due to physics simply can't get out of.

 

Yeah I was last wave so had 3000 guys in front of me, wasn't too bad to start with then we hit this shitty, narrow, country road and it was gridlock. Guys either getting done for drafting or blocking. If you were on the right you were drafting, on the left blocking. So even those trying to avoid drafting were getting done for blocking which was unfair. Mine was justified, You could have avoided it by soft pedalling which seemed a bit stupid to be honest. You would soft pedal then get eaten up by the next group. By the time I got out the penalty box it was fine. 

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23 minutes ago, Bored@work said:

If I ever race again & get busted for drafting. I won’t stop. 

Clearly that’s okay now.  

Just make some excuse post race. All will be fine. 

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21 minutes ago, zed said:

Yeah I was last wave so had 3000 guys in front of me, wasn't too bad to start with then we hit this shitty, narrow, country road and it was gridlock. Guys either getting done for drafting or blocking. If you were on the right you were drafting, on the left blocking. So even those trying to avoid drafting were getting done for blocking which was unfair. Mine was justified, You could have avoided it by soft pedalling which seemed a bit stupid to be honest. You would soft pedal then get eaten up by the next group. By the time I got out the penalty box it was fine. 

Lat time did Busso anyone who said they didn't draft was lying, even this guy in pink who was yelling at people in the first 20 k where it was 2 lanes of gridlock.

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2 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

Lat time did Busso anyone who said they didn't draft was lying, even this guy in pink who was yelling at people in the first 20 k where it was 2 lanes of gridlock.

Not sure if it was the rolling start, but IMWA 2018 was OK. A couple of small packs, but even if you wanted to draft, you would have had little opportunity.  TOs were everywhere. It was good though, I find it stressful with TOs. I got yelled at twice by TOs, I was in the process of overtaking as they came cruising past and all they saw was me 1m behind some guy.... I got 25 seconds mudda****as! 

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2 minutes ago, zed said:

Not sure if it was the rolling start, but IMWA 2018 was OK. A couple of small packs, but even if you wanted to draft, you would have had little opportunity.  TOs were everywhere. It was good though, I find it stressful with TOs. I got yelled at twice by TOs, I was in the process of overtaking as they came cruising past and all they saw was me 1m behind some guy.... I got 25 seconds mudda****as! 

Yes there is that part that TO seem to not bother with. We have that time from thime our front wheel enters the zone to make the pass.

Unless they have seen that given the time assessed they you are making forward progress, this just bombing in like most do and randomly picking some one out is not great.

Saying that they have an impossible job and the rule is not suited to the nature of our races today. I advocate for a return to the 7 metre rule which I think is easier to police and to adhere to 

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2 hours ago, Bored@work said:

If I ever race again & get busted for drafting. I won’t stop. 

 

1 hour ago, Peter said:

Clearly that’s okay now.  

Just make some excuse post race. All will be fine. 

The reality is, who needs an excuse?  Most races and courses have an over abundance of athletes on them.  So if you're not really at the pointy end of the field, what do you care if you get a dq?  You're most likely recording your race yourself anyway, and posting it to Strava.  And even if you get a red card during the race, you don't have to stop.  You don't get pulled from the course.  You finish, then go see the RR after you finish.  So really, if you're timing yourself, what you're paying for is a little bit of merch (maybe), somewhere to rack your bike, closed roads (hopefully, maybe), and aide stations.  So I say go your hardest, do what you want, own it, and it is what it is.

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On 17/10/2019 at 1:40 PM, Blobby said:

Quick report.

1st Kona, via the legacy program.   I would love to think I can qualify via the normal process, however nutritional problems plague the back end of any endurance event - ending in vomiting whether it be IM or long rides.  I spent a number of sessions with Monash Uni having gut tests and sweat tests and we set about a program to resolve the problem over the 6 months leading into Kona.

 

Signed up with TriTravel to do the conditioning tour and had an absolute blast and the whole experience lived up to all the expectations. Had some long sessions on the bike riding up Hawi and back to town and got to experience the brutality of the winds and associated heat challenges.  On this pre-race day ride the wind was ferocious but doable and according to the pro's on Strava indicated that it was a really bad day.  Also did a long run from the run turn around in town all the way out the energy lab, so got to see the entire length of the course which ended up proving to be really valuable come race day.

The race week lead in was awesome, getting to meet so many greats of the sport (Dave, Marc, Paula, Michellie, Cam Wurf etc....) and the functions for the Aussie/NZ team as well as a special nibbles and drink for the Legacy athletes.

Spent a night doing the Manta ray dive and a day driving the island, eating portugese donuts, visit to the volcano, which was a nice break from all the race prep.

Race day

Being the 1st year of the swim waves, meant a very low stress, post check in, got to spend time back in our hotel (Kona Seaside) and watch the earlier wave starts (my start was the last and was 1:05 after the male pro's headed out.  Got to watch the male pro's exit the water before being bundled down the steps into the water to begin the short swim out to the start line.  Whilst I thought there was only going to be 100 legacy athletes in the wave it was much larger and looks like we had just short of 300 athletes starting in this wave.  I started on the right hand side and was quite stunned to see people take off at break neck speed.  Swim is my best leg and had decided to find some feet and just sit in and enjoy the drag.  It was quite a slow pace and tried a few times to go past the feet I was on, only to find that the 2 sets of feet I was following didn't want me to go, so I just dropped back in behind them.  Wasn't long before we were passing the back end of the last of the ladies and the fun of trying to find a good line through the swarm of people. Got a kick from a female that set my watch to transition mode, so from that point on had no idea of the pace.  Arrived back on shore in 1:05:30 which was the end of the range that I expected.  I normally swim around the 55-58 mins and this had been cruisey.

On to the bike and its taken me a few years to learn to ride at a consistent pace and avoid surging and not being able to bring the back end of the ride home.  Just prior to heading over to Kona my PM died and I had to switch to one off the roadie and knowing they are not the same numbers, we decided on a range (20min FTP test in the week before going over and an hour FTP test on the Queen K 1 week pre-race), so we had a new number to work with and a range.  Dave Scott had mentioned a few times that the race doesn't start until the 160km mark of the bike and the 30km mark of the run, so I just settled into a nice comfortable power and focussed on nutrition and ensuring I managed the heat.  The ride out of Kona is slightly uphill before you drop down into Kawaihei, and start the climb to Hawi.  Thoroughly enjoyed this section and got to see my wife and daughter at around the 45km mark (TriTravel take them on a bus out to see us), and was amazed at how much effort people were putting into the ride.  Before turning the corner we got to see the male pro's returning and it was clear that they were flying, but the back few bikes in the lead pack were definitely pushing the draft zone.  The crosswinds across to the base of the climb were strong and then the head wind up the climb.  got to the turnaround, picked up the special needs drink nutrition and started the decent.  The winds were certainly up, but not quite as bad as our training ride, but still there were a few people that had come off.  Took the right hand turn back onto the Queen K and decided it was time to start picking up the pace, and really enjoyed the trip back into town, passing so many people that had pushed to hard earlier.  Managed to put away 8 bottles of fluid plus my 4 bidons, (1.6l litres per hour) so I was confident that my nutrition was on track according to my tests and trials.  Ride time was a very comfortable 5:21:34 and keeping a 13watt differential between AVG pwr and NP (I was planning on this only being around 5, but there was a number of surges down during the day to keep out of draft zones.)

Onto the run and prove the litmus test for the nutrition and up Palani on to Kukini waving to the family before settling into my race rhythm.  Had the pleasure of being passed by Jan as he turned the corner (he at km 41 me at km 1), I gave him a pat on the back and he was gone.  Checking my race pace it was still a little quick (my aim was for around the 6min km) so I started to ease back and then got to see iFoz cheering everyone on outside the Royal Kona.  At the far turnaround I was passed by John Hill and watched him run off, as I continued to find my speed and get used to the heat.  Ran back past iFoz, then my family and walked up Palani to the Queen Q and started the section out to the energy lab.  Around km 15 I could feel my gut starting to misbehave, and had to slow up and ease some burps out, and realised over the next few km, that some walking was going to be required.  Not long after this caught up to Ken Glah who was competing in his 36 Kona, and after a short chat I ran off feeling a little more upbeat.  Not to much further on I ran past John again, his day was done and would be walking it home.  Down into the energy lab, by this stage the sun had gone behind the clouds and the sting of the heat had disappeared, walked a portion of the flat section and the uphill out of the energy lab, Saw a few friends on the return out and wondered how long it would be before the ran past me, but somehow I managed to find some more walk / run on the way back into town and they didn't catch me.  

Walked the final hill up to Palani thinking about the iron war on this very section, and then ran down the hill, into town and across the finish line.  Somehow managed to keep from throwing up but went straight into medical tent and received 2 drips (I had lost 4.5kg).  This was the 1st race that I had manged to keep from throwing up in and keep taking on fluid throughout the run.  Albeit I only managed to ingest 1 cliff chew bar, 2 cups of gatorade, the rest was just water for the entire run leg.  This was not what my nutrition plan was, but it was ll I could do on the day.  Run time was 4:50 which was a little off target but the best I could do on the day.  (Dream was 3:50, with 4:15 being more realistic).

Absolutely loved the whole experience and would love to do this again one day with a bunch of mates once they get there.

Closed out the day with 11:28 and overall place of 1387, not bad for someone who can't qualify. Then got a surprise when a friend mentioned I had won my age group, which was a great laugh.  On the IM tracker the category I started in (last wave is known as the Kukui), and they have age groups for them.  I had won the 50-54 age group.

Bloody fantastic. Well done.

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3 hours ago, goughy said:

 

  So if you're not really at the pointy end of the field, what do you care if you get a dq?  

My friends will find out and worse of all, Peter will find out. Not worth it IMO.

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24 minutes ago, zed said:

My friends will find out and worse of all, Peter will find out. Not worth it IMO.

Is this like cutting the course. As in, it wouldn’t matter because you have already qualified for kona......

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13 hours ago, goughy said:

 

The reality is, who needs an excuse?  Most races and courses have an over abundance of athletes on them.  So if you're not really at the pointy end of the field, what do you care if you get a dq?  You're most likely recording your race yourself anyway, and posting it to Strava.  And even if you get a red card during the race, you don't have to stop.  You don't get pulled from the course.  You finish, then go see the RR after you finish.  So really, if you're timing yourself, what you're paying for is a little bit of merch (maybe), somewhere to rack your bike, closed roads (hopefully, maybe), and aide stations.  So I say go your hardest, do what you want, own it, and it is what it is.

Where's the sense of satisfaction in cheating? Geez, might as well go the whole hog and get an e bike... So long as you 'own it'.. 

It amazes me how insecure people must be to cheat so that they can ebrag a quicker time. 

Might as well just sit on the couch and create a bogus strava file and remove all effort totally, that's the best way to go about it 👍

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All I was pointing out was that in the end, for 99% of people at most races their accomplishment is what they want/take from it!  You are right, there are plenty of people who are purely after bragging rights and will cheat (or push the limits as they would call it) to achieve their goal.  Every weekend you see "pushing the limits" at all levels of sport.  Or most senior cricketers for busted for it.  Footy players hold down in the tackle, soccer players take a dive, cricketers claim catches or lbw's they didn't make our that they didn't nick the ball.  I hated cheating being so prevalent in sport, but many many just consider it part of the game play.

When you ask what satisfaction they get from it.  I bet you they get plenty!  But there are plenty of people like this in all walks of life, not just sport.  I'm a naive sucker, so have met plenty of them.

I wasn't trying to excuse such behaviour.  Just saying in the end we just have to be satisfied with what we want from it all.

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6 minutes ago, goughy said:

All I was pointing out was that in the end, for 99% of people at most races their accomplishment is what they want/take from it!  You are right, there are plenty of people who are purely after bragging rights and will cheat (or push the limits as they would call it) to achieve their goal.  Every weekend you see "pushing the limits" at all levels of sport.  Or most senior cricketers for busted for it.  Footy players hold down in the tackle, soccer players take a dive, cricketers claim catches or lbw's they didn't make our that they didn't nick the ball.  I hated cheating being so prevalent in sport, but many many just consider it part of the game play.

When you ask what satisfaction they get from it.  I bet you they get plenty!  But there are plenty of people like this in all walks of life, not just sport.  I'm a naive sucker, so have met plenty of them.

I wasn't trying to excuse such behaviour.  Just saying in the end we just have to be satisfied with what we want from it all.

You can't simply label drafting as cheating. It's against the rules, but then where do you draw the line? Pissing on the bike is cheating? Drafting is comparable to footy players holding down in the tackle or deliberately pushing the offside line. You need to differentiate between someone that does something against the rules that results in a penalty or a warning and someone that dopes and cuts the course and is banned for years.

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18 minutes ago, zed said:

You can't simply label drafting as cheating. It's against the rules, but then where do you draw the line? Pissing on the bike is cheating? Drafting is comparable to footy players holding down in the tackle or deliberately pushing the offside line. You need to differentiate between someone that does something against the rules that results in a penalty or a warning and someone that dopes and cuts the course and is banned for years.

Everyone will have a different opinion on this.  I draw the line at intentional vs accidental in all the above cases except pissing on the bike (which I have never done).

It is possible to be unlucky with drafting. You lose concentration and drift into the draft zone.  Or someone drops in front and you don't drop back quick enough. You broke the rules and are penalised accordingly, but I don't regard you as a cheat. Whereas if you were acting deliberately I do consider you a cheat.  The penalties are the same because it is very difficult for the official to distinguish between deliberate and accidental, so the athlete gets the benefit of the doubt.

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2 minutes ago, Rob said:

Everyone will have a different opinion on this.  I draw the line at intentional vs accidental in all the above cases except pissing on the bike (which I have never done).

It is possible to be unlucky with drafting. You lose concentration and drift into the draft zone.  Or someone drops in front and you don't drop back quick enough. You broke the rules and are penalised accordingly, but I don't regard you as a cheat. Whereas if you were acting deliberately I do consider you a cheat.  The penalties are the same because it is very difficult for the official to distinguish between deliberate and accidental, so the athlete gets the benefit of the doubt.

Well said. It's funny and sad the mental gymnastics people go through to try and clear their conscious in all aspects of life where they knowingly do the wrong thing. 

 

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50 minutes ago, goughy said:

 

When you ask what satisfaction they get from it.  I bet you they get plenty!  But there are plenty of people like this in all walks of life, not just sport.  I'm a naive sucker, so have met plenty of them.

Well as I said there are lots of insecure people out there with low self esteem . Same sort of people who would cut a marathon I guess.. 

For me though I will never be able to understand this sort of behaviour. I'm competing against myself so what's the point in drafting a race to save 5,10 mins if I can't compare my performance to another race where I didn't draft?

I want to challenge myself and see improvement, I'm doing this because it is hard. If I wanted easy I'd play xbox... 

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7 minutes ago, more said:

For me though I will never be able to understand this sort of behaviour. I'm competing against myself so what's the point in drafting a race to save 5,10 mins if I can't compare my performance to another race where I didn't draft?

But how can you realistically compare your performance to another race anyway?

Wind/temperature/humidity/course differences, they all affect people differently, so not only will your time be different, but you position compared to others will be different even though you may have "performed" exactly the same. 

 

Sorry, just playing devil's advocate here. :)

 

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10 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

But how can you realistically compare your performance to another race anyway?

Wind/temperature/humidity/course differences, they all affect people differently, so not only will your time be different, but you position compared to others will be different even though you may have "performed" exactly the same. 

 

Sorry, just playing devil's advocate here. :)

 

Mental gymnastics lol? Of course you are right but I'd still expect to see an overall improvement yoy unless there is a blow out in conditions. If I know that x race was faster than y due to drafting, I wouldn't be happy with that. 

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1 hour ago, BarryBevan said:

You don’t piss on the bike? 

I've only ever done one Ironman and stopped at the port-a-loos.  Admittedly, if I ever do another Ironman, I will also certainly piss on the bike. Which is why I don't consider it cheating.  We all seem to choose which rules apply to us and which we can ignore.

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

But how can you realistically compare your performance to another race anyway?

Wind/temperature/humidity/course differences, they all affect people differently, so not only will your time be different, but you position compared to others will be different even though you may have "performed" exactly the same. 

Sorry, just playing devil's advocate here. :)

I usually have numerous others I compare myself against.  Probably why I enjoy the local races so much because I have so many other competitors who I know to compare myself against.

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Getting caught drafting when you don’t plan to draft, isn’t cheating. 

But sitting in the zone on purpose drafting is. Even for 30 seconds  

Cutting the course is cheating.  Even when AP said everyone else was doing it and it was okay for him to do it  

 

 

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4 hours ago, Rob said:

I've only ever done one Ironman and stopped at the port-a-loos.  Admittedly, if I ever do another Ironman, I will also certainly piss on the bike. Which is why I don't consider it cheating.  We all seem to choose which rules apply to us and which we can ignore.

And pissing on the bike saves you time, it's no different than drafting. It's also more serious, being an instant DQ. Yet it's pretty much acceptable. 

I'm dirty on people that plan to draft from the onset and spend the whole race drafting. A topish female AG won her AG a few years ago using her bf as a domestique. She's a good runner, but a 2.40 biker. Her partner is a 2.15 biker and was her bitch at Busso 70.3 (rolling start) a few years ago. Every turnaround she was glued to his wheel, literally 1m, if that. She rode a 2.22 and won her AG. That is shit. And although I'm at risk of contradicting myself, I do regard that as cheating. It's not like she went 2 mins quicker and finished 25th... she went 15mins+ quicker and finished 1st. One of my clubmates did that last year in IMWA and a guy on here Kiwi something mentioned him. He's a blatant drafter. He got pinged last year, luckily.

 

I kind of regard that as different to someone that sits at 8, 9m for short periods of time.  People calling pros cheats because they're 10m.... nah. 

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15 hours ago, zed said:

And pissing on the bike saves you time, it's no different than drafting. It's also more serious, being an instant DQ. Yet it's pretty much acceptable. 

I'm dirty on people that plan to draft from the onset and spend the whole race drafting. A topish female AG won her AG a few years ago using her bf as a domestique. She's a good runner, but a 2.40 biker. Her partner is a 2.15 biker and was her bitch at Busso 70.3 (rolling start) a few years ago. Every turnaround she was glued to his wheel, literally 1m, if that. She rode a 2.22 and won her AG. That is shit. And although I'm at risk of contradicting myself, I do regard that as cheating. It's not like she went 2 mins quicker and finished 25th... she went 15mins+ quicker and finished 1st. One of my clubmates did that last year in IMWA and a guy on here Kiwi something mentioned him. He's a blatant drafter. He got pinged last year, luckily.

 

I kind of regard that as different to someone that sits at 8, 9m for short periods of time.  People calling pros cheats because they're 10m.... nah. 

Agreed. The difference in advantage between sitting inside the zone for a few seconds versus sitting on someone's wheel or in a pack for hours is huge. And yet the penalty is the same. 

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On 20/10/2019 at 6:04 PM, zed said:

And pissing on the bike saves you time, it's no different than drafting. It's also more serious, being an instant DQ. Yet it's pretty much acceptable. 

I'm dirty on people that plan to draft from the onset and spend the whole race drafting. A topish female AG won her AG a few years ago using her bf as a domestique. She's a good runner, but a 2.40 biker. Her partner is a 2.15 biker and was her bitch at Busso 70.3 (rolling start) a few years ago. Every turnaround she was glued to his wheel, literally 1m, if that. She rode a 2.22 and won her AG. That is shit. And although I'm at risk of contradicting myself, I do regard that as cheating. It's not like she went 2 mins quicker and finished 25th... she went 15mins+ quicker and finished 1st. One of my clubmates did that last year in IMWA and a guy on here Kiwi something mentioned him. He's a blatant drafter. He got pinged last year, luckily.

 

I kind of regard that as different to someone that sits at 8, 9m for short periods of time.  People calling pros cheats because they're 10m.... nah. 

Yeah I saw the same thing again yesterday at the Bowral Cycling Classic, 3 of us triathletes taking turns to drag 30 lazy cyclists 😂 

Back to Busso 2018, the TOs saw him and pointed the finger but they were going opppsite directions. By the time the TO has turned around he is listening out and drops back. In the words of the great Wurf - what a douchebag.

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On ‎20‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 6:04 PM, zed said:

And pissing on the bike saves you time, it's no different than drafting. It's also more serious, being an instant DQ. Yet it's pretty much acceptable. 

Peeing on the bike is not anything like drafting. For starters the rule is for health reasons only. 

Now, if you think it is like drafting because its an advantage over someone who stops..... then those people who don't need to pee at all are getting a distinct advantaged and should be disqualified. Its about race management.

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Ironman has its own rules, officials and officiating policy at US races, including Hawaii. It's a mash up of ITU and USAT rules and policy. FWIW, I've reffed Kona (albeit back in the day) and other WTC races, including head ref at the old Vineman 70.3. Officials are expected to document an infraction with a description of what happened, and three identifying data points, including race number, which is mandatory, and then it's usually gender (if it's obvious, which it isn't always), bike description (color at least, usually brand too) and/or kit. Mismatched identifiers, e.g. wrong bike, should be automatic grounds for overturning a penalty. Usually, race photos are used to determined if there's a mismatch, at least at major races.

Mistakes happen – sometimes numbers get transposed when written down or transferred to reports. I had that happen to me once at a USAT race, and had it overturned. Not without taking a ton of crap for it from my fellow officials 😀. Best thing to do is to jump on it right away. The finish line isn't always the best place to do it, but the head ref should be at the awards ceremony for exactly that purpose.

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On 15/10/2019 at 12:14 PM, prizna said:

Sure did get a DQ. 

Long story of my day as short as possible.

Went in full bravado after sunny coast 4:13, was ready to be cocky as and crush it. I got dealt a crushing blow, swim and rode within plan and walked to a 5+ hour marathon and spent more time on the toilets than I did running.

The DQ, crossed finish line got medal, bead necklace thing and towel. Old dude pulled me aside told me he was head ref and asked explained I'd received a penalty and not stopped. Briefly discussion lead to a few things, my number was clearly written down but bike description was wrong. He was head ref not marshal who did it, we discussed some more he said I could go get the rest of my finisher stuff and go have a feed. Having just done an 11hour + Ironman feeling like a piece of shit I didn't care too much so I said thanks DQ me I'll deal with it after.

I'll flick them an email with my bike photos after i finish holidaying and question then. 

 

Still seeing you are disqualified. 

Guessing you are just a cheat. 

Not surprised.

Maybe you should have just stopped instead of making up a bullshit lie. 

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6 hours ago, Ironnerd said:

If you ever get the opportunity to go to Kona as part of the Legacy program – DO IT. It was an amazing experience. Ironman went out of their way to make the Legacy athletes feel special...

Brilliant report, well done mate!

Sometimes I wonder why I bother with this site, and triathlon in general, and then I read something like this where an athlete loves & appreciates their experience in the sport and it makes it all worthwhile.

Good luck at IMWA!

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3 hours ago, Go Easy said:

Brilliant report, well done mate!

Sometimes I wonder why I bother with this site, and triathlon in general, and then I read something like this where an athlete loves & appreciates their experience in the sport and it makes it all worthwhile.

Good luck at IMWA!

I agree with Go Easy. I hate the arrogance of this site/kona and tri's in general. Then I read posts like this and think how awesome a sport it really is. 

I'm sure one day I'm going to miss it & look back with regret having not race Kona. 

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