Kona race day thread. Let’s GO!

[pieman 1,327]

2 minutes ago, Peter said:

It didn’t matter anyway.  Brownlee is still out the doing the marathon.  

 

#canthandletheheat

[Peter 3,553]

[Peter 3,553]

 

 

[zed 1,485]

Sick all night with a fever and then smashes the swim, getting a PB and keeping up with the lead guys.....

[The new guy 240]

I have no doubt he had a fever, felt faint and got dizzy on the.

Thats what happens when you have to ride with your nose in the wind.

 

[Peter 3,553]

22 minutes ago, zed said:

Sick all night with a fever and then smashes the swim, getting a PB and keeping up with the lead guys.....

Agree. If he had “some blackouts” he would have crashed.  

Maybe he needs to do another Ironman ASAP to prove he was fit and win something other than Kona. 

There is just something about this guy that’s not right. 

[zed 1,485]

26 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

There is just something about this guy that’s not right. 

Yeah. I loved his 2016 run into 3rd, didn't know at the time he'd served two drafting penalties, then ever since then there's a been a drip feed of negative shit about him. 

[BarryBevan 1,064]

He's a two time winner of kona with a 239 marathon, he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone let alone the keyboard internet captains (always wondered what it felt to do that)

[Peter 3,553]

7 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

He's a two time winner of kona with a 239 marathon, he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone let alone the keyboard internet captains (always wondered what it felt to do that)

But he’s a proven cheat. 

[BarryBevan 1,064]

5 minutes ago, Peter said:

But he’s a proven cheat. 

is a drafting pen, a rule infringment like offside or foul play?

[Tyno 2,286]

3 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

is a drafting pen, a rule infringment like offside or foul play?

Depends if we like the person who gets done.

[Andrew #1 1,196]

Re: Lange.

 

its equally plausible that his swim pb was due to him upping his game, even if he had a fever. His blackouts sound like micro gaps, which would be pretty common in someone who has a virus induced fever but is still pushing themselves physically.

Like Macca’s mechanical in 2008, I suppose we’ll never know the truth.

that said, I reckon Lange still has at least one more Kona title in him before he retires. 

[Nick777 198]

8 minutes ago, Andrew #1 said:

Re: Lange.

 

its equally plausible that his swim pb was due to him upping his game, even if he had a fever. His blackouts sound like micro gaps, which would be pretty common in someone who has a virus induced fever but is still pushing themselves physically.

Like Macca’s mechanical in 2008, I suppose we’ll never know the truth.

that said, I reckon Lange still has at least one more Kona title in him before he retires. 

Dunno about you (and I know you're a decent swimmer), but I'm not getting anywhere near it in the pool when I've got a fever

[zed 1,485]

1 hour ago, BarryBevan said:

He's a two time winner of kona with a 239 marathon, he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone let alone the keyboard internet captains (always wondered what it felt to do that)

Keyboard captains aren't alone in slagging him off, most of the pros are chipping in as well. I think most of them have suggested that he does need to prove himself i.e do what Frodo did, swim hard, bike hard, run hard. 

[BarryBevan 1,064]

2 minutes ago, zed said:

Keyboard captains aren't alone in slagging him off, most of the pros are chipping in as well. I think most of them have suggested that he does need to prove himself i.e do what Frodo did, swim hard, bike hard, run hard. 

does wurf need to prove himself to?

[Bored@work 3,744]

6 minutes ago, zed said:

Keyboard captains aren't alone in slagging him off, most of the pros are chipping in as well. I think most of them have suggested that he does need to prove himself i.e do what Frodo did, swim hard, bike hard, run hard. 

Did PJ race on the weekend?

[trilobite 248]

1 hour ago, Tyno said:

Depends if we like the person who gets done.

 

[Peter 3,553]

1 hour ago, BarryBevan said:

is a drafting pen, a rule infringment like offside or foul play?

Good question. Once maybe.  Twice, is pushing the limits.  

There was no way jimmy and the TOs were going to allow Lange to get anywhere near the zone this year.  I wouldn’t be surprised if jimmy rick even gave him prior warning of what would happen this year. 

10 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

does wurf need to prove himself to?

He slowly is I believe. 

He is improving each year. 

He is winning Ironman’s.  something Lange has never done outside of Kona. 

Edited October 14, 2019 by Peter

[Rog 1,763]

1 hour ago, zed said:

Keyboard captains aren't alone in slagging him off, most of the pros are chipping in as well. I think most of them have suggested that he does need to prove himself i.e do what Frodo did, swim hard, bike hard, run hard. 

Please! I never heard anyone say the same about Rinnie yet she races the exact same way. The real problem is that he is German, of course. 

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,573]

2 minutes ago, Rog said:

Please! I never heard anyone say the same about Rinnie yet she races the exact same way. The real problem is that he is German, of course. 

Is Emma the reason no-one disses Jan.

Then he needs to marry an Aussie.

[more 474]

3 minutes ago, Rog said:

Please! I never heard anyone say the same about Rinnie yet she races the exact same way. The real problem is that he is German, of course. 

What nationality are Frodo and Kienle? 

[trilobite 248]

9 minutes ago, more said:

What nationality are Frodo and Kienle? 

Or David Hasselhoff?

[IronmanFoz 1,349]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

 

He is winning Ironman’s.  something Lange has never done outside of Kona. 

How many Ironmans did Allen win outside of Kona!

[Andrew #1 1,196]

2 hours ago, Peter said:

He is winning Ironman’s.  something Lange has never done outside of Kona. 

Plus he’s an Olympian and World champion rower. And also spent 8 years on the Pro Tour.
 

Just a shame Wurf didn’t initially focus on the track Team Pursuit program when he first made the switch from rowing. He’d have been a fair chance of making the Aussie team for the 2012 Olympics. 

[trilobite 248]

2 hours ago, Bored@work said:

Did PJ race on the weekend?

 

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,573]

Quote

Kona 2020 is still a maybe

He's at the point now where he'll have to qualify, right?

[Peter 3,553]

7 hours ago, IronmanFoz said:

How many Ironmans did Allen win outside of Kona!

He won nice about 10 times. Considered bigger than Kona at the time. Long course. 

Also there were only 4 Ironmans a year at the time. 

Lange could find an Ironman in a nothing location and win easy. Like port Mac. 

But hasnt. 

[BarryBevan 1,064]

34 minutes ago, Peter said:

He won nice about 10 times. Considered bigger than Kona at the time. Long course. 

Also there were only 4 Ironmans a year at the time. 

Lange could find an Ironman in a nothing location and win easy. Like port Mac. 

But hasnt. 

sheessh he only won kona twice, but he's no one until he's won port mac

[roxii 6,533]

Should there be a limit on the number of German professionals allowed in the race. 
Surely the answer is nein!

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,573]

11 minutes ago, roxii said:

Should there be a limit on the number of German professionals allowed in the race. 
Surely the answer is nein!

It seems it wasn't just the hip the doctors worked on. They took out your funny bone as well.

[Peter 3,553]

 

[Bored@work 3,744]

How far from the finish is that

[Bored@work 3,744]

37 minutes ago, roxii said:

Should there be a limit on the number of German professionals allowed in the race. 
Surely the answer is nein!

My best mate is German. I now have a limit on how many German friends I have. Get too many of them in the same room & it’s chaos..

Don’t even get me started on a Christmas. They start drinking on the 23rd Dec & don’t stop till 2 Jan. 

No wonder I become an alcoholic.

[Peter 3,553]

1 hour ago, Bored@work said:

How far from the finish is that

The last few hundred metres

Where I came good the year I did it

[Peter 3,553]

Jen Annett

“Absolutely gutted to have my first ever DNF,” Annett wrote on Instagram, “and at the World Championships, to boot.” The Canadian triathlete crashed into a motorcycle early in the bike portion of the race, damaging her wheel and causing several bruises around her body. Despite an attempt to soldier on after procuring a replacement wheel, Annett succumbed to her injuries and pulled out during the run.

Cody Beals

In what he calls a “disappointing day,” Beals chose to drop from the race after experiencing issues with his bike near the Hawi turnaround. “…[A]n unfortunate and unprecedented mechanical issue related to some damage sustained during travel forced me to slow down and eventually stop,” The Canadian pro shared on Facebook.

Emma Bilham

In her last ride before the race, the Swiss triathlete was in aero position on the road when a car stopped in the shoulder to take photos. Despite a last-minute swerve, Bilham crashed into the bumper and was launched from her bike. Though Bilham toed the line on race day, the injuries sustained in the crash forced her withdrawal after exiting the swim.

Andi Boecherer

Almost immediately after exiting the swim, the German triathlete pulled out of the race, citing “cramps.”

Mirinda Carfrae

Despite a much-publicized injury to her radius prior to the race, it was a different injury that took the three-time Ironman World Champion out of the 2019 event: “I actually had trouble with my SI joint on the bike,” Rinny wrote on Instagram. “It’s happened a handful of times in my career. Basically starts to tighten up & locks down my entire left glute, adductor, VMO & I can barely turn the pedals. I’m not sure what triggered it, but will find the answer.”

Andreas Dreitz

“When you think you are ready again for a tough 8h race, but you are not,” Dreitz captioned his withdrawal photo on Instagram. A nagging shoulder injury sustained weeks before the Kona race flared up after the swim, causing the German pro to withdraw.

Matt Hanson

After a month of forced rest to heal a running injury, the American triathlete jumped into the fray at Kona – and perhaps too soon. “Running through T1 was the first run on solid ground I’ve done since September 8th, and it was definitely unpleasant…so I knew that finishing the race was not going to be an option,” Hanson shared on Instagram.

Patrick Lange

The defending champion alarmed spectators when he abruptly pulled to the side of the road 30 miles into the bike leg, then abandoned the race. In a video posted to his Instagram page, Lange explained that a fever the night before the race progressed to dizziness, then blackouts, during the event.

Franz Loescke

After trying to kick a persistent sore throat in the days leading up to Kona, the German pro thought he was well enough to race – until he quickly realized he wasn’t. In a video posted to Instagram, Loeschke explains his decision to prioritize his health and pull out of the race after the swim.

Jocelyn McCauley

After exiting the swim in the top five, McCauley seemed primed to position herself competitively on the bike – but her body seemed to disagree. “Jocelyn is pulling from the race. She’s not been able to keep fluids in her body since mile 30,” her race crew announced on social media.

David McNamee

“Never made it to the run today,” the Brit tweeted after withdrawing from the race. “It’s been a tough week on the big island. It’s a thin line between top shape and being sick.”

Patrik Nilsson

Despite being in the mix for most of the day, the Kona course eventually got the best of the Swedish pro: “olid first half marathon, then the famous Hawaii got me!” Nilsson wrote on Facebook. “Stomach issues, heat and just beaten down going in to the even more famous energy lab…. Even if a DNF sucks, I guess this is one of the most common races to do so…”

Camilla Pedersen

“Kona, you’re just as brutal as you should be,” The Danish pro wrote on social media after the race, claiming she “was ready to have fun, kick ass and smash myself…and I only accomplished the last one.” GI issues caused Pederson to have difficulty fueling throughout the bike, eventually leading to her race crew pulling her from the course early in the run leg.

Andrew Starykowicz

“I have clung to hope, but it breaks my heart to say that I will not be racing

@IRONMANtri World Champs,” the American pro announced on Twitter the morning of the race. “I am still suffering from bronchitis/pneumonia & to attempt to race breathing through a straw would be pointless.”

Boris Stein

After clocking the fastest bike split of the day with a 4:13:18, the wheels fell off for Stein, who wrote on Facebook that he was ignoring pain at the start of the run, until it became too much to bear: “I decided on health and against the finish.”

TJ Tollakson

After an MRI in September uncovered several injuries, Tollakson followed an aggressive rehabilitation plan in hopes of still being able to race in what he thought “may be my last opportunity to race at the Ironman World Championship as a professional.” He confessed in an Instagram post that his desire to race clouded his assessment of health, leading to his DNF: “My body was not ready to race an Ironman, especially in the pro field of the world champs. I didn’t know that for sure until I tried.”

Sarah True

The heat-management issues that plagued Sarah True in races earlier this year reared their ugly head in Kona: “I had hoped that my weird heat issues this season were behind me. They aren’t, and my day in Kona ended in an ice bath partway through the bike course,” she wrote on Instagram.

Kelsey Withrow

Mechanical issues took their toll on the Kona rookie: “I had a good swim and felt amazing on the bike. Unfortunately my chain kept coming off which made me have to get off bike and put it back on each time,” Withrow explained on Facebook. “I was able to ride my way back up to my group 3 times before I blew up.”

Edited October 14, 2019 by Peter

[goughy 3,648]

Saw a pic this morning of, I think a kiwi ag'er, who broke his 5th metatarsal about 6k into the run leg, slipping on some ice at an aide station.  Ended up limping their way to finish.  Their foot looked about the size of a football.  Those right foot 5th metatarsal's suck.  Were told they've probably done a lot more damage to it by continuing on it.  Can relate to that.

Edit: here's the foot

[zed 1,485]

Where did you get that list from Peter? It's pretty big. A bit lame some of those excuses.

[pieman 1,327]

Just now, zed said:

Where did you get that list from Peter? It's pretty big. A bit lame some of those excuses.

https://www.triathlete.com/2019/10/ironman/kona-dnf-files-2019-edition_384451

 

[Charlesn 213]

8 hours ago, Peter said:

Jen Annett

“Absolutely gutted to have my first ever DNF,” Annett wrote on Instagram, “and at the World Championships, to boot.” The Canadian triathlete crashed into a motorcycle early in the bike portion of the race, damaging her wheel and causing several bruises around her body. Despite an attempt to soldier on after procuring a replacement wheel, Annett succumbed to her injuries and pulled out during the run.

Cody Beals

In what he calls a “disappointing day,” Beals chose to drop from the race after experiencing issues with his bike near the Hawi turnaround. “…[A]n unfortunate and unprecedented mechanical issue related to some damage sustained during travel forced me to slow down and eventually stop,” The Canadian pro shared on Facebook.

Emma Bilham

In her last ride before the race, the Swiss triathlete was in aero position on the road when a car stopped in the shoulder to take photos. Despite a last-minute swerve, Bilham crashed into the bumper and was launched from her bike. Though Bilham toed the line on race day, the injuries sustained in the crash forced her withdrawal after exiting the swim.

Andi Boecherer

Almost immediately after exiting the swim, the German triathlete pulled out of the race, citing “cramps.”

Mirinda Carfrae

Despite a much-publicized injury to her radius prior to the race, it was a different injury that took the three-time Ironman World Champion out of the 2019 event: “I actually had trouble with my SI joint on the bike,” Rinny wrote on Instagram. “It’s happened a handful of times in my career. Basically starts to tighten up & locks down my entire left glute, adductor, VMO & I can barely turn the pedals. I’m not sure what triggered it, but will find the answer.”

Andreas Dreitz

“When you think you are ready again for a tough 8h race, but you are not,” Dreitz captioned his withdrawal photo on Instagram. A nagging shoulder injury sustained weeks before the Kona race flared up after the swim, causing the German pro to withdraw.

Matt Hanson

After a month of forced rest to heal a running injury, the American triathlete jumped into the fray at Kona – and perhaps too soon. “Running through T1 was the first run on solid ground I’ve done since September 8th, and it was definitely unpleasant…so I knew that finishing the race was not going to be an option,” Hanson shared on Instagram.

Patrick Lange

The defending champion alarmed spectators when he abruptly pulled to the side of the road 30 miles into the bike leg, then abandoned the race. In a video posted to his Instagram page, Lange explained that a fever the night before the race progressed to dizziness, then blackouts, during the event.

Franz Loescke

After trying to kick a persistent sore throat in the days leading up to Kona, the German pro thought he was well enough to race – until he quickly realized he wasn’t. In a video posted to Instagram, Loeschke explains his decision to prioritize his health and pull out of the race after the swim.

Jocelyn McCauley

After exiting the swim in the top five, McCauley seemed primed to position herself competitively on the bike – but her body seemed to disagree. “Jocelyn is pulling from the race. She’s not been able to keep fluids in her body since mile 30,” her race crew announced on social media.

David McNamee

“Never made it to the run today,” the Brit tweeted after withdrawing from the race. “It’s been a tough week on the big island. It’s a thin line between top shape and being sick.”

Patrik Nilsson

Despite being in the mix for most of the day, the Kona course eventually got the best of the Swedish pro: “olid first half marathon, then the famous Hawaii got me!” Nilsson wrote on Facebook. “Stomach issues, heat and just beaten down going in to the even more famous energy lab…. Even if a DNF sucks, I guess this is one of the most common races to do so…”

Camilla Pedersen

“Kona, you’re just as brutal as you should be,” The Danish pro wrote on social media after the race, claiming she “was ready to have fun, kick ass and smash myself…and I only accomplished the last one.” GI issues caused Pederson to have difficulty fueling throughout the bike, eventually leading to her race crew pulling her from the course early in the run leg.

Andrew Starykowicz

“I have clung to hope, but it breaks my heart to say that I will not be racing

@IRONMANtri World Champs,” the American pro announced on Twitter the morning of the race. “I am still suffering from bronchitis/pneumonia & to attempt to race breathing through a straw would be pointless.”

Boris Stein

After clocking the fastest bike split of the day with a 4:13:18, the wheels fell off for Stein, who wrote on Facebook that he was ignoring pain at the start of the run, until it became too much to bear: “I decided on health and against the finish.”

TJ Tollakson

After an MRI in September uncovered several injuries, Tollakson followed an aggressive rehabilitation plan in hopes of still being able to race in what he thought “may be my last opportunity to race at the Ironman World Championship as a professional.” He confessed in an Instagram post that his desire to race clouded his assessment of health, leading to his DNF: “My body was not ready to race an Ironman, especially in the pro field of the world champs. I didn’t know that for sure until I tried.”

Sarah True

The heat-management issues that plagued Sarah True in races earlier this year reared their ugly head in Kona: “I had hoped that my weird heat issues this season were behind me. They aren’t, and my day in Kona ended in an ice bath partway through the bike course,” she wrote on Instagram.

Kelsey Withrow

Mechanical issues took their toll on the Kona rookie: “I had a good swim and felt amazing on the bike. Unfortunately my chain kept coming off which made me have to get off bike and put it back on each time,” Withrow explained on Facebook. “I was able to ride my way back up to my group 3 times before I blew up.”

Absolute gold

"Unfortunately my chain kept coming off" and "a persistent sore throat ... decided to prioritize his health" get my vote

[Peter 3,553]

Photo of the day. 

Look closely 

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,573]

5 minutes ago, Peter said:

Photo of the day. 

Look closely 

Looks like he's still swimming.

[IronmanFoz 1,349]

2 hours ago, Peter said:

Photo of the day. 

Look closely 

What a punter !

[Bored@work 3,744]

Nice trip 

[AA7 1,743]

Looking at some of the other excuses, this trip would've been perfect for Ali to blame for his poor run.

[Bored@work 3,744]

[Tyno 2,286]

Crowley spoke after that in the presser and told Reece he should get her 2 dogs anyway. 

[Prince 575]

13 hours ago, Peter said:

Photo of the day. 

Look closely 

pffft. bloody rookie....

[Charlesn 213]

2 hours ago, Prince said:

pffft. bloody rookie....

not his day was it.

Love how there is silence on the excuses front from Ryf, just like Frodo when he went in injured. Finish the race and stay quiet

Massive kudos for that

[Peter 3,553]

2 minutes ago, Charlesn said:

not his day was it.

Love how there is silence on the excuses front from Ryf, just like Frodo when he went in injured. Finish the race and stay quiet

Massive kudos for that

Re Ryf, everyone has a tough day. 

So much pressure on her to win again.  I don't think one person tipped another womans winner, and in all honesty, how could you.

Her usual domination doesn't allow you to tip someone else.

 

[Prince 575]

22 minutes ago, Charlesn said:

not his day was it.

Love how there is silence on the excuses front from Ryf, just like Frodo when he went in injured. Finish the race and stay quiet

Massive kudos for that

not really, 

and i thought lionel looked horrible running. definitely limping more than normal.

 

Edited October 16, 2019 by Prince