AA7 1,737 Report post Posted July 29 (edited) The ITU media release https://www.triathlon.org/news/article/notification_of_anti_doping_violations https://triathlonworld.com/news/itu-announces-two-age-group-suspensions-148741 Edited July 29 by AA7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limited 175 Report post Posted July 29 Have to feel sorry for the blind guy who he was a guide for. (Assuming he was innocent and unaware) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BNothling 120 Report post Posted July 29 Poor Gerard. That sucks. To be fair though, most mere mortals would need to dope to keep up with Gerard enough to guide him through a race! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissJess 675 Report post Posted July 29 Yeah, I have two friends who have just moved up a place out of this, of course everyone is disappointed that this has happened. I do wonder about how he got team selection for AG? Given the amount of competition for GC I thought TA would have had regular testing throughout the season and post selection, then at least the first reserve would have gotten the spot they deserved. I am assuming as Gosens is a Queenslander that Thompson is affiliated with Tri QLD, and a club up there, anyone know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,737 Report post Posted July 29 10 minutes ago, MissJess said: Yeah, I have two friends who have just moved up a place out of this, of course everyone is disappointed that this has happened. I do wonder about how he got team selection for AG? Given the amount of competition for GC I thought TA would have had regular testing throughout the season and post selection, then at least the first reserve would have gotten the spot they deserved. I am assuming as Gosens is a Queenslander that Thompson is affiliated with Tri QLD, and a club up there, anyone know? Yeh Tri Nation is listed as his club. I don't think the the competition for GC spots meant any more testing for AG competitors though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goughy 3,635 Report post Posted July 29 I don't know why not! Tests only cost 5 bucks each don't they? And TA would be flushed with money wouldn't they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,467 Report post Posted July 29 He needs to talk to a few cyclists. Fancy getting done for EPO. He must have really stuffed up his dosage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 375 Report post Posted July 30 What a absolute dumb prick ! dopping as an age grouper 😂😂😂 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 929 Report post Posted July 30 Hopefully Saint Mack of Horton releases a statement or better still takes another action. Id like to see Saint Mack of Horton assume the preying mantis on the blocks for 24 hours. i am performing the preying mantis for 24 hours as I’m strong on anti drugs. It’s a travesty that an age grouper gets 4 years but a bloke in the Australians swim team, my team, my relay team at an elite level can miss three tests and only get a year.... lol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 929 Report post Posted July 30 24 minutes ago, oldschool69#2 said: What a absolute dumb prick ! dopping as an age grouper 😂😂😂 Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willie 1,546 Report post Posted July 30 the Spanish guy must have thought he was a bit fat. That's stuff bodybuilders use when they're cutting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored@work 3,688 Report post Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, willie said: the Spanish guy must have thought he was a bit fat. That's stuff bodybuilders use when they're cutting mmm how would one go about getting this wonder suppliment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,467 Report post Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, Bored@work said: mmm how would one go about getting this wonder suppliment I was thinking the same thing. Given that I'm not competing, not affiliated with any sporting organisation and just looking to look cut, it sounds the go. The only time I've looked cut lately has been after the skin specialist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zed 1,472 Report post Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Oompa Loompa said: Hopefully Saint Mack of Horton releases a statement or better still takes another action. Id like to see Saint Mack of Horton assume the preying mantis on the blocks for 24 hours. i am performing the preying mantis for 24 hours as I’m strong on anti drugs. It’s a travesty that an age grouper gets 4 years but a bloke in the Australians swim team, my team, my relay team at an elite level can miss three tests and only get a year.... lol. Yeah it means someone who is doping has 3 chances and the very worst they face is a 12 month ban. They dope, miss two tests, they could aways get off it, make sure they don't miss any more for the rest of the year and jobs a good un. Missing 3 tests should = 4 year ban. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 6,475 Report post Posted July 30 2 hours ago, oldschool69#2 said: What a absolute dumb prick ! dopping as an age grouper 😂😂😂 .....and didn't even win!! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 30 2 hours ago, Oompa Loompa said: Hopefully Saint Mack of Horton releases a statement or better still takes another action. Id like to see Saint Mack of Horton assume the preying mantis on the blocks for 24 hours. i am performing the preying mantis for 24 hours as I’m strong on anti drugs. It’s a travesty that an age grouper gets 4 years but a bloke in the Australians swim team, my team, my relay team at an elite level can miss three tests and only get a year.... lol. really? You on holidays Matt? Bit bored? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 375 Report post Posted July 30 1 hour ago, roxii said: .....and didn't even win!! Exactly! In age group !seriously Does any body know him ? would love to know why the Fark he did it get him on here for Q and A . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 30 I can't believe they actually caught an age grouper. I'd love to know the story behind that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 30 8 hours ago, AA7 said: The ITU media release https://www.triathlon.org/news/article/notification_of_anti_doping_violations https://triathlonworld.com/news/itu-announces-two-age-group-suspensions-148741 Melbourne Athlete. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 948 Report post Posted July 30 3 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said: I was thinking the same thing. Given that I'm not competing, not affiliated with any sporting organisation and just looking to look cut, it sounds the go. The only time I've looked cut lately has been after the skin specialist. Or why not train and dope for years but never compete. Then stop doping well before actually starting in competition with all that in the bank and boom superhuman performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,467 Report post Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, A2K said: Or why not train and dope for years but never compete. Then stop doping well before actually starting in competition with all that in the bank and boom superhuman performance. I've often thought about that. I imagine any coach associated with something like that would get hit hard, but realistically, what is there to stop it happening. Are there non-affiliated training groups in Kenya and other nations bringing young athletes through to the senior ranks before thrusting them on to the world stage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oompa Loompa 929 Report post Posted July 30 3 hours ago, Peter said: really? You on holidays Matt? Bit bored? Always keen for elite Australian athletes immersed in a high performance culture to maintain the rage. Australia, making excuses for elite swimmers since 1964. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in transition 61 Report post Posted July 30 What was that 35 - 39 AG thinking. He needs to face some facts about getting old. Hopefully he can reflect, and seek the actual mental health it sounds like he needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarryBevan 1,030 Report post Posted July 30 What can we expect from convict DNA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 30 52 minutes ago, Lost in transition said: What was that 35 - 39 AG thinking. He needs to face some facts about getting old. Hopefully he can reflect, and seek the actual mental health it sounds like he needs. Apparently he was a professional. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 375 Report post Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Peter said: Apparently he was a professional. Haha professional dimwit. I reckon coach@ could still roll him in a sprint and he is now 62 😉 so does anybody know him ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyno 2,245 Report post Posted July 30 Made it onto the Courier Mail Online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 30 Interesting read https://www.smh.com.au/sport/australian-triathlete-banned-after-testing-positive-to-epo-20190730-p52c12.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symo 95 Report post Posted July 30 Bloody hell..https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/kidnapped-triathlete-escapes-captor-by-complimenting-his-orchids-20190731-p52ccm.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 6,475 Report post Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, Peter said: Interesting read https://www.smh.com.au/sport/australian-triathlete-banned-after-testing-positive-to-epo-20190730-p52c12.html Good to see Trav, getting the Bronze......eventually. Interesting though that it notes he did not return a positive from the Para race, does EPO clear from the system that quickly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach@triathlon 813 Report post Posted July 30 11 hours ago, oldschool69#2 said: Haha professional dimwit. I reckon coach@ could still roll him in a sprint and he is now 62 😉 so does anybody know him ? 52 dickhead and still waiting for you to stop sulking and pin a number on again 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach@triathlon 813 Report post Posted July 30 8 minutes ago, roxii said: Good to see Trav, getting the Bronze......eventually. Interesting though that it notes he did not return a positive from the Para race, does EPO clear from the system that quickly? Trav lovely bloke and we have raced many times. Family and community man. So glad he got a medal. Last year was a very difficult personal challenge for him suffering loss...congrats mate 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazaau 323 Report post Posted July 30 34 minutes ago, symo said: Bloody hell..https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/kidnapped-triathlete-escapes-captor-by-complimenting-his-orchids-20190731-p52ccm.html That is shockingly insane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,467 Report post Posted July 30 19 minutes ago, roxii said: Interesting though that it notes he did not return a positive from the Para race, does EPO clear from the system that quickly? If they are microdosing, then it's not detectable 24 hours later. As I said earlier, he needs to talk to some cyclists, cause he stuffed up big time getting caught. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 375 Report post Posted July 31 Cry me a river ! He didn’t take it bla bla just man the Fark up and say you are a shit athlete and was trying to be better by cheating! testers don’t know who blood they have etc it’s a serial number in a lab it’s either got shit in it or it doesn’t. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach@triathlon 813 Report post Posted July 31 On 30/07/2019 at 9:25 AM, goughy said: I don't know why not! Tests only cost 5 bucks each don't they? And TA would be flushed with money wouldn't they? not quite,,, https://www.asada.gov.au/about-asada/finance/fees Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Coach@triathlon said: not quite,,, https://www.asada.gov.au/about-asada/finance/fees They should have an option that you can pay to get someone tested. It would shut up all those that say someone is taking drugs and thats why they were beaten. Enter CreditCard and persons name you want tested here. thanks... We will go test now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pieman 1,299 Report post Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Peter said: They should have an option that you can pay to get someone tested. It would shut up all those that say someone is taking drugs and thats why they were beaten. Enter CreditCard and persons name you want tested here. thanks... We will go test now. Given how many people seem to be going undetected even while being tested, you'd have to be stupid or loaded to do that wouldnt you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 31 2 hours ago, pieman said: Given how many people seem to be going undetected even while being tested, you'd have to be stupid or loaded to do that wouldnt you... Yeah but it would shut up those people that constantly can't deal with being beaten and claiming it only happened because someone was on drugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in transition 61 Report post Posted July 31 The news article was interesting. How do you get EPO into your system, without knowing you were having EPO?I'm pretty sure it's only done by needle. What does it mean that he doesnt have the money to fight. If I was really innocent, you would fight. He has thrown all his past results in the shade, and any future results will be questioned as well. Such a dumb thing to do, all for an age group crown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldave 127 Report post Posted July 31 Doping in a sprint race yet still came second, he can't even dope properly, what a tool. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, oldave said: Doping in a sprint race yet still came second, he can't even dope properly, what a tool. maybe he took it to be fast enough to keep up with Gossens? A slow guide isn't much help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldave 127 Report post Posted July 31 9 minutes ago, Trier said: maybe he took it to be fast enough to keep up with Gossens? A slow guide isn't much help. 9 minutes ago, Trier said: maybe he took it to be fast enough to keep up with Gossens? A slow guide isn't much help. The positive was 2 days before he acted as a guide? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 31 Might been doping for training for many months and not expected to be tested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-H- 895 Report post Posted July 31 On 30/07/2019 at 11:53 AM, oldschool69#2 said: What a absolute dumb prick ! dopping as an age grouper 😂😂😂 On 30/07/2019 at 3:30 PM, oldschool69#2 said: Exactly! In age group !seriously Does any body know him ? would love to know why the Fark he did it get him on here for Q and A . I met him in Budapest in 2010, he was mates with one of my training buddies at the time. He's a lawyer at one of the Big 6 law firms in Melbourne, I seem to remember him being Irish. He seems to have disappeared from facebook and even Linked In. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissJess 675 Report post Posted July 31 The story was in SMH as well, and I think they have a picture of him (from memory). All for an age-group podium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 31 15 hours ago, Lost in transition said: The news article was interesting. How do you get EPO into your system, without knowing you were having EPO?I'm pretty sure it's only done by needle. What does it mean that he doesnt have the money to fight. If I was really innocent, you would fight. He has thrown all his past results in the shade, and any future results will be questioned as well. Such a dumb thing to do, all for an age group crown. If he was really innocent, I get how many he wouldn't fight it. The money and the time and the stress. It would be easier to just do the 4 years and still train and then race again. If you did a poll on how many races people do a year, the average person would miss about 15 races in 4 years? I know some people that only race once a year. I even know a tri coach who hasn't raced since IM Sweden 2014. And he is a coach. fit as, trains all the time. Just doesn't race. He could still do fun runs and other events, just not triathlons. Just change your name slightly on the entry. But as EPO can only be injected. he took it and is guilty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach@triathlon 813 Report post Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Peter said: If he was really innocent, I get how many he wouldn't fight it. The money and the time and the stress. It would be easier to just do the 4 years and still train and then race again. If you did a poll on how many races people do a year, the average person would miss about 15 races in 4 years? I know some people that only race once a year. I even know a tri coach who hasn't raced since IM Sweden 2014. And he is a coach. fit as, trains all the time. Just doesn't race. He could still do fun runs and other events, just not triathlons. Just change your name slightly on the entry. But as EPO can only be injected. he took it and is guilty no races at all, in any sport that is a signatory to ASADA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,484 Report post Posted July 31 7 minutes ago, Coach@triathlon said: no races at all, in any sport that is a signatory to ASADA Technically but if he was to turn up and run the Shepparton Half Marathon entered online as Stef Johns, it's not checked. Or even a Sri Chinmoy event where you can write whatever you want when you enter on the day, you can still race. Lisa Marangon has been racing events on ZWIFT. I see her all the time on there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxii 6,475 Report post Posted July 31 He could go and smash the local Crossfit gym. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
