Birtwhistle Wins Another WTS

[Ironnerd 589]

Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free.

[Nick777 172]

Might have the best sprint on him since Miles.

[Peter 3,228]

Spoiler.  It hasn’t even been 12hours. 

 

[Peter 3,228]

16 minutes ago, Ironnerd said:

Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free.

Australia probably won’t select him

[AA7 1,669]

56 minutes ago, Ironnerd said:

Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free.

Not Mola and Gomez he needs to worry about anymore. But beating Vincent Luis is impressive.

[Peter 3,228]

Mixed relay about to start. 

530pm 

 

[AA7 1,669]

Last  leg, Jake has about 10-15secs to make up on bike and leg. Going to be a cracking finish.

[Trier 26]

5 hours ago, Peter said:

Australia probably won’t select him

Hahaha, don't even joke about it. 

I just read he is the first male this season to win 2 WTS races. Also is the first Aus male in history to achieve 2 wins in one season. 

[The Customer 1,930]

and Nicola Spirig qualifies for her 5th Olympics. amazing.

[Trier 26]

30 minutes ago, The Customer said:

and Nicola Spirig qualifies for her 5th Olympics. amazing.

5th, so 20 yrs of being competitive at the top level. Wow

[Cat Lady 690]

Spirig  had her third child 3 months ago as well....

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,218]

10 hours ago, Trier said:

5th, so 20 yrs of being competitive at the top level. Wow

Not sure of Spirig's longevity, but 5 x Olympics covers 16 years, so you'd also need a top year beforehand to qualify, so at least 17 years at top level anyway. That's a hell of a career.

[Peter 3,228]

2 hours ago, Cat Lady said:

Spirig  had her third child 3 months ago as well....

Wow

[willie 1,532]

43 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Not sure of Spirig's longevity, but 5 x Olympics covers 16 years, so you'd also need a top year beforehand to qualify, so at least 17 years at top level anyway. That's a hell of a career.

First on the ITU scene in 1998 at Junior Euro Champs. Rory Junior champ '99 and World junior Champ '00. That's over 20 years at the top level and uber impressive. 

[AA7 1,669]

Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however.

 

 

[oldschool69#2 346]

First Aussie male to win 2 world cup races in a season? 

[Trier 26]

36 minutes ago, oldschool69#2 said:

First Aussie male to win 2 world cup races in a season? 

World series races

[Trier 26]

12 hours ago, AA7 said:

Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however.

 

 

Still a well earned win, good to have some Aus women racing well, has been a slow season to get started. 

[oldschool69#2 346]

What’s the difference between World Series and the old world cups ? Still the best 50 or do race ?

The only difference I would see is the athletes these days are so much faster .

[Andrew #1 1,161]

On 21/07/2019 at 10:27 AM, AA7 said:

Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however.

 

 

That win should guarantee Jackson automatic selection until at least 2032.

#goldenchild

#emmasnowsillhadnothing

[pieman 1,240]

1 hour ago, Andrew #1 said:

That win should guarantee Jackson automatic selection until at least 2032.

#goldenchild

#emmasnowsillhadnothing

I honestly thought she had retired...

[Peter 3,228]

Olympic test event on today and tomorrow / weekend.

Womens now.  Run cut short to 5k as its so hot so australia decided its no longer a selection race. Decision made mid race

Emma Jackson was in no mans land for the bike.  No aerobars or clip on.  

Emma carney has been replaced on the mic.  Whoever the woman is now, shes 1000 times better.

I wont say who wins.  I hate spoilers

 

[AA7 1,669]

23 minutes ago, Peter said:

Olympic test event on today and tomorrow / weekend.

Womens now.  Run cut short to 5k as its so hot so australia decided its no longer a selection race. Decision made mid race

Emma Jackson was in no mans land for the bike.  No aerobars or clip on.  

Emma carney has been replaced on the mic.  Whoever the woman is now, shes 1000 times better.

I wont say who wins.  I hate spoilers

 

Decision was made before the race. 

[Limited 165]

Did the British girls get disqualified?

[AA7 1,669]

16 minutes ago, Limited said:

Did the British girls get disqualified?

No, why?

[Trier 26]

58 minutes ago, AA7 said:

Decision was made before the race. 

Decision was made over a year ago when they announced the policy, if the selection race was changed from olympic distance in any way no longer would an auto spot given.

Also, at this stage yes they have been DQ'd, everyone knows that rule, what were they thinking?. 

[ComfortablyNumb 821]

Results?

Why the DQ?

[Limited 165]

27 minutes ago, AA7 said:

No, why?

Spoiler alert.

 

 

I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race

[Cat Lady 690]

1 minute ago, Limited said:

Spoiler alert.

 

 

I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race

why would they intentionally tie the race?

[Peter 3,228]

6 minutes ago, Limited said:

Spoiler alert.

 

 

I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race

I watched. They both ran over the line together.  

I actually thought with about 500 to go that both littered and that could be an issue. 

Whilst they both ran together over the line, they were bloody trying still. Duffy was closing in.

I'd appeal if I was them and show the HRM file to prove they were trying

[Limited 165]

No idea. Like Peter said he thought they were trying 

This was posted in the official results:

31.5C doesn't seem too hot that you have to shorten the race. Maybe it was due to the water temp?

https://triathlon.org/results/result/2019_tokyo_itu_world_olympic_qualification_event/337765

Edited August 15 by Limited
Added link to results page

[Trier 26]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

I watched. They both ran over the line together.  

I actually thought with about 500 to go that both littered and that could be an issue. 

Whilst they both ran together over the line, they were bloody trying still. Duffy was closing in.

I'd appeal if I was them and show the HRM file to prove they were trying

Was bloody obvious  was going to happen, Georgia was jogging the blue carpet. If they hadnt held hands as crossed they may had a right to protest, but hold hands as cross is pretry obvious. As the race was shortened they were only racing for discretionary spots, maybe thought would lock them both in. 

And the temp isn't a regular temp. They said WBGMT which is a totally different measurement altogether. 

Edited August 15 by Trier

[AA7 1,669]

2 hours ago, Limited said:

Spoiler alert.

 

 

I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race

Yes I stand corrected.

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,218]

5 hours ago, Limited said:

31.5C doesn't seem too hot that you have to shorten the race. Maybe it was due to the water temp?

So what happens next year if it's just as hot? 

Apparently some of the rowers were treated for heat issues after their test events.

 

Maybe they should have had a 21km Marathon at the Gold Coast last year.

[Trier 26]

The heat issue could be massive next year too. Reading the ITU info it isn't just the actual basic temp that is the problem but something called WBGT which uses a different measurement  for predicting heat stress in these extreme climates. 

[Coach@triathlon 804]

 

Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions.

Edited August 15 by Coach@triathlon

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,218]

7 minutes ago, Coach@triathlon said:

 

Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions.

This.

Surely a part of winning the event is being able to adapt to the current conditions and race appropriately. Provide plenty of hydration & medical assistance if needed, but surely if a professional can't modify their race to suit the conditions, they shouldn't be a professional.

[Tyno 2,134]

At least TA got in before the start to say it wouldn't be an auto qualifier after the distance changed.

It's been a pretty lean year for our girls at the top level, so I don't know who would score a gig at this point.

 

[Peter 3,228]

2 hours ago, Coach@triathlon said:

 

' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions.

Spivey screwed her race. Was easily going to qualify off the bike and blew into 3 million pieces. 

Edited August 15 by Peter

[BogFrog 576]

4 hours ago, Coach@triathlon said:

 

Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions.

Oh for God's sake stop being sensible!

[AA7 1,669]

Has Jake got some serious varicose vein action going on down the front of his leg?

[Peter 3,228]

Total failure but the aussie guys in Tokyo 

[Trier 26]

Well, i hope that Tri Aus rethink their selection process as obviously to race well in Tokyo requires great preparation.The 3 on the podium have all skipped some wts races throughout the season. It would be good if maybe they chose 1 guy and 1 girl soon, who could prepare to race the Olympics like many other countries, with their season purely revolving around performing on that day, not chasing all over the world for selection and points. This was a test, and I doubt anyone would say they were happy with their race and they will all go back, along  with their coaches, and plot a different approach. Most athletes(from every country) appeared to spend quite a bit of time  around Japan for heat acclimatisation, worked for some, not for others,(not for any of our Aus). Joel Filliol group stayed at altitude and came to Japan this week. In interviews they mentioned only using makeshift heat tents, none of them performed as well as I expected either, although the two top Aus performers were from this group, but I thought both would been better.  Leaving all selection until June now, would be counter productive to performances in July.

[MissJess 646]

31 degrees is hot? Western Sydney 70.3 gets above that.

We shortened a club distance race a couple of years ago, but it was 40+ and a club run event, so not like we can pull extra aid stations out of our butts.

[Peter 3,228]

1 hour ago, Trier said:

Well, i hope that Tri Aus rethink their selection process as obviously to race well in Tokyo requires great preparation.The 3 on the podium have all skipped some wts races throughout the season. It would be good if maybe they chose 1 guy and 1 girl soon, who could prepare to race the Olympics like many other countries, with their season purely revolving around performing on that day, not chasing all over the world for selection and points. 

You'd hope with Miles running the show he would do this being a former athlete.

Or they could go the usual way and just fark it up.

I'm tipping they will fark it up as usual.

[Trier 26]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

You'd hope with Miles running the show he would do this being a former athlete.

Or they could go the usual way and just fark it up.

I'm tipping they will fark it up as usual.

Just read in another forum, no guy inside the top 10 had raced the full series. That puts more power to my thoughts, at this end of the season, some are tired and skipped too much training waiting around in airports to be able to perform at their peak. Would just be dumb to expect podium results if not allowed podium level preparation.

[Peter 3,228]

42 minutes ago, Trier said:

Just read in another forum, no guy inside the top 10 had raced the full series. That puts more power to my thoughts, at this end of the season, some are tired and skipped too much training waiting around in airports to be able to perform at their peak. Would just be dumb to expect podium results if not allowed podium level preparation.

You are on the money. 

Then there is this. 

[Trier 26]

A duathlon now for Para races, considering it only rained before and during the mens race it was probably too crappy yesterday too. Will it be suddenly ok for the relays ?

[A2K 937]

On ‎15‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 6:23 PM, Trier said:

The heat issue could be massive next year too. Reading the ITU info it isn't just the actual basic temp that is the problem but something called WBGT which uses a different measurement  for predicting heat stress in these extreme climates. 

I think the correct terminology is WBGT+

[Andrew #1 1,161]

So, who qualified for automatic selection (any nation)?

is J Brownlee’s 5th for Tram GB enough? On a related note, has A Brownlee definitely given up on the Olympics next year, or is he a possibility of racing the WS Grand Final next month ahead of 70.3 WC and then Kona?