Ironnerd 645 Report post Posted July 7 Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick777 190 Report post Posted July 7 Might have the best sprint on him since Miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted July 7 Spoiler. It hasn’t even been 12hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted July 7 16 minutes ago, Ironnerd said: Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free. Australia probably won’t select him 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted July 7 56 minutes ago, Ironnerd said: Birtwhistle is having a fantastic season. He won his 2nd WTS race in 4 weeks at Hamburg. He beat both Mola and Gomez. He should be a contender next year at the Olympics if he stays injury free. Not Mola and Gomez he needs to worry about anymore. But beating Vincent Luis is impressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted July 7 Mixed relay about to start. 530pm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted July 7 Last leg, Jake has about 10-15secs to make up on bike and leg. Going to be a cracking finish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 7 5 hours ago, Peter said: Australia probably won’t select him Hahaha, don't even joke about it. I just read he is the first male this season to win 2 WTS races. Also is the first Aus male in history to achieve 2 wins in one season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Customer 1,996 Report post Posted July 7 and Nicola Spirig qualifies for her 5th Olympics. amazing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 7 30 minutes ago, The Customer said: and Nicola Spirig qualifies for her 5th Olympics. amazing. 5th, so 20 yrs of being competitive at the top level. Wow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat Lady 745 Report post Posted July 7 Spirig had her third child 3 months ago as well.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,453 Report post Posted July 7 10 hours ago, Trier said: 5th, so 20 yrs of being competitive at the top level. Wow Not sure of Spirig's longevity, but 5 x Olympics covers 16 years, so you'd also need a top year beforehand to qualify, so at least 17 years at top level anyway. That's a hell of a career. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Cat Lady said: Spirig had her third child 3 months ago as well.... Wow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willie 1,546 Report post Posted July 7 43 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said: Not sure of Spirig's longevity, but 5 x Olympics covers 16 years, so you'd also need a top year beforehand to qualify, so at least 17 years at top level anyway. That's a hell of a career. First on the ITU scene in 1998 at Junior Euro Champs. Rory Junior champ '99 and World junior Champ '00. That's over 20 years at the top level and uber impressive. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted July 21 Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 370 Report post Posted July 21 First Aussie male to win 2 world cup races in a season? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 21 36 minutes ago, oldschool69#2 said: First Aussie male to win 2 world cup races in a season? World series races Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted July 21 12 hours ago, AA7 said: Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however. Still a well earned win, good to have some Aus women racing well, has been a slow season to get started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschool69#2 370 Report post Posted July 22 What’s the difference between World Series and the old world cups ? Still the best 50 or do race ? The only difference I would see is the athletes these days are so much faster . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew #1 1,192 Report post Posted July 22 On 21/07/2019 at 10:27 AM, AA7 said: Edmonton WTS this weekend. Blast from the past, Emma Jackson has taken the win. Gentle in 3rd. Top females not racing however. That win should guarantee Jackson automatic selection until at least 2032. #goldenchild #emmasnowsillhadnothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pieman 1,295 Report post Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Andrew #1 said: That win should guarantee Jackson automatic selection until at least 2032. #goldenchild #emmasnowsillhadnothing I honestly thought she had retired... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 15 Olympic test event on today and tomorrow / weekend. Womens now. Run cut short to 5k as its so hot so australia decided its no longer a selection race. Decision made mid race Emma Jackson was in no mans land for the bike. No aerobars or clip on. Emma carney has been replaced on the mic. Whoever the woman is now, shes 1000 times better. I wont say who wins. I hate spoilers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted August 15 23 minutes ago, Peter said: Olympic test event on today and tomorrow / weekend. Womens now. Run cut short to 5k as its so hot so australia decided its no longer a selection race. Decision made mid race Emma Jackson was in no mans land for the bike. No aerobars or clip on. Emma carney has been replaced on the mic. Whoever the woman is now, shes 1000 times better. I wont say who wins. I hate spoilers Decision was made before the race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limited 175 Report post Posted August 15 Did the British girls get disqualified? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted August 15 16 minutes ago, Limited said: Did the British girls get disqualified? No, why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 15 58 minutes ago, AA7 said: Decision was made before the race. Decision was made over a year ago when they announced the policy, if the selection race was changed from olympic distance in any way no longer would an auto spot given. Also, at this stage yes they have been DQ'd, everyone knows that rule, what were they thinking?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComfortablyNumb 827 Report post Posted August 15 Results? Why the DQ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limited 175 Report post Posted August 15 27 minutes ago, AA7 said: No, why? Spoiler alert. I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat Lady 745 Report post Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Limited said: Spoiler alert. I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race why would they intentionally tie the race? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 15 6 minutes ago, Limited said: Spoiler alert. I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race I watched. They both ran over the line together. I actually thought with about 500 to go that both littered and that could be an issue. Whilst they both ran together over the line, they were bloody trying still. Duffy was closing in. I'd appeal if I was them and show the HRM file to prove they were trying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limited 175 Report post Posted August 15 (edited) No idea. Like Peter said he thought they were trying This was posted in the official results: 31.5C doesn't seem too hot that you have to shorten the race. Maybe it was due to the water temp? https://triathlon.org/results/result/2019_tokyo_itu_world_olympic_qualification_event/337765 Edited August 15 by Limited Added link to results page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peter said: I watched. They both ran over the line together. I actually thought with about 500 to go that both littered and that could be an issue. Whilst they both ran together over the line, they were bloody trying still. Duffy was closing in. I'd appeal if I was them and show the HRM file to prove they were trying Was bloody obvious was going to happen, Georgia was jogging the blue carpet. If they hadnt held hands as crossed they may had a right to protest, but hold hands as cross is pretry obvious. As the race was shortened they were only racing for discretionary spots, maybe thought would lock them both in. And the temp isn't a regular temp. They said WBGMT which is a totally different measurement altogether. Edited August 15 by Trier Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Limited said: Spoiler alert. I didn't watch but I heard not racing to the end. intentionally tying the race Yes I stand corrected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,453 Report post Posted August 15 5 hours ago, Limited said: 31.5C doesn't seem too hot that you have to shorten the race. Maybe it was due to the water temp? So what happens next year if it's just as hot? Apparently some of the rowers were treated for heat issues after their test events. Maybe they should have had a 21km Marathon at the Gold Coast last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 15 The heat issue could be massive next year too. Reading the ITU info it isn't just the actual basic temp that is the problem but something called WBGT which uses a different measurement for predicting heat stress in these extreme climates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach@triathlon 813 Report post Posted August 15 (edited) Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions. Edited August 15 by Coach@triathlon 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-Hasbeen 7,453 Report post Posted August 15 7 minutes ago, Coach@triathlon said: Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions. This. Surely a part of winning the event is being able to adapt to the current conditions and race appropriately. Provide plenty of hydration & medical assistance if needed, but surely if a professional can't modify their race to suit the conditions, they shouldn't be a professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyno 2,237 Report post Posted August 15 At least TA got in before the start to say it wouldn't be an auto qualifier after the distance changed. It's been a pretty lean year for our girls at the top level, so I don't know who would score a gig at this point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coach@triathlon said: ' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions. Spivey screwed her race. Was easily going to qualify off the bike and blew into 3 million pieces. Edited August 15 by Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BogFrog 605 Report post Posted August 15 4 hours ago, Coach@triathlon said: Sport shoots itself in the foot at major games with this shit. How many Olympic marathons and 50k walks have been done in the heat? Los Angeles, Beijing, Rio et al..kona gets a bit muggy too from time to time and it is never considered in terms of reducing the distance..the test event needs to be the 'test event' .maybe athletes have to slow down and survive. Change the mindset and deal with the distance in all conditions. Oh for God's sake stop being sensible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AA7 1,735 Report post Posted August 15 Has Jake got some serious varicose vein action going on down the front of his leg? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 16 Total failure but the aussie guys in Tokyo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 16 Well, i hope that Tri Aus rethink their selection process as obviously to race well in Tokyo requires great preparation.The 3 on the podium have all skipped some wts races throughout the season. It would be good if maybe they chose 1 guy and 1 girl soon, who could prepare to race the Olympics like many other countries, with their season purely revolving around performing on that day, not chasing all over the world for selection and points. This was a test, and I doubt anyone would say they were happy with their race and they will all go back, along with their coaches, and plot a different approach. Most athletes(from every country) appeared to spend quite a bit of time around Japan for heat acclimatisation, worked for some, not for others,(not for any of our Aus). Joel Filliol group stayed at altitude and came to Japan this week. In interviews they mentioned only using makeshift heat tents, none of them performed as well as I expected either, although the two top Aus performers were from this group, but I thought both would been better. Leaving all selection until June now, would be counter productive to performances in July. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissJess 675 Report post Posted August 16 31 degrees is hot? Western Sydney 70.3 gets above that. We shortened a club distance race a couple of years ago, but it was 40+ and a club run event, so not like we can pull extra aid stations out of our butts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Trier said: Well, i hope that Tri Aus rethink their selection process as obviously to race well in Tokyo requires great preparation.The 3 on the podium have all skipped some wts races throughout the season. It would be good if maybe they chose 1 guy and 1 girl soon, who could prepare to race the Olympics like many other countries, with their season purely revolving around performing on that day, not chasing all over the world for selection and points. You'd hope with Miles running the show he would do this being a former athlete. Or they could go the usual way and just fark it up. I'm tipping they will fark it up as usual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Peter said: You'd hope with Miles running the show he would do this being a former athlete. Or they could go the usual way and just fark it up. I'm tipping they will fark it up as usual. Just read in another forum, no guy inside the top 10 had raced the full series. That puts more power to my thoughts, at this end of the season, some are tired and skipped too much training waiting around in airports to be able to perform at their peak. Would just be dumb to expect podium results if not allowed podium level preparation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter 3,468 Report post Posted August 16 42 minutes ago, Trier said: Just read in another forum, no guy inside the top 10 had raced the full series. That puts more power to my thoughts, at this end of the season, some are tired and skipped too much training waiting around in airports to be able to perform at their peak. Would just be dumb to expect podium results if not allowed podium level preparation. You are on the money. Then there is this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trier 28 Report post Posted August 17 A duathlon now for Para races, considering it only rained before and during the mens race it was probably too crappy yesterday too. Will it be suddenly ok for the relays ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2K 948 Report post Posted August 17 On 15/08/2019 at 6:23 PM, Trier said: The heat issue could be massive next year too. Reading the ITU info it isn't just the actual basic temp that is the problem but something called WBGT which uses a different measurement for predicting heat stress in these extreme climates. I think the correct terminology is WBGT+ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew #1 1,192 Report post Posted August 17 So, who qualified for automatic selection (any nation)? is J Brownlee’s 5th for Tram GB enough? On a related note, has A Brownlee definitely given up on the Olympics next year, or is he a possibility of racing the WS Grand Final next month ahead of 70.3 WC and then Kona? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites