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The Tour of Switzerland is currently on. Ineos have Egan Bernal in front (even after their captain GT crashed out) with a 41 second lead over Australian Rohan Dennis. Dennis has been working hard on his climbing this year and has stayed in contact with the leaders over the last 2 mountain stages. With a 19km TT tonight, he is favorite to take back the yellow jersey, but probably not by much. This should make for a ding dong final stage tomorrow night. Three HC climbs in a 144km stage, the final one cresting 21km from the finish, followed by a 13km descent, then a fairly flat 8km to the finish. Rohan's aim would be to be in contact at the top of the last climb, as it would be difficult for Ineos to get away from someone like him after that.

I wish I had Eurosport to watch it live. :(

 

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Pro cycling made a comeback yesterday with the start a couple of second tier stage races in Spain & Bulgaria. For those wanting to watch some this year, SBS will be showing a a number of races, with the first, Critérium du Dauphiné, kicking off in 2 weeks.

https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/article/2020/07/29/how-watch-mens-cycling-sbs?fbclid=IwAR3hUiOpEmBEjF1v7ekXcVdHfl0bHVyCvNuzthHZXd5uEyzsDpsyB2yX2vk

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11 hours ago, Peter said:

Get the GNC APP

They are showing it all live. 

 

 

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Sorry, should have said "no way of watching it because I am a tightarse and am not paying a service to watch"

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21 hours ago, Peter said:

Haha. There will be free ways. 

I am also far too lazy to spend the time setting up the dodgy ways or putting up with poor quality pictures and Ukrainian commentary.

Basically it needs to be on FTA or have a simple service where I pay a few dollars to watch individual races.

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With Sagan kicked out of the TdF a few years ago for what was really a "cycling incident", Groenewegen should be out for a year.

 

Jakobsen is lucky to be alive, and a couple other riders aren't starting tomorrow.

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EX - yep, by far worst crash I have seen and he needs to have a fair stint off. As a lot of commentary saying, a downhill finish into a tightening finish line never needs to be seen in a bike race again. 

Thankful Jakobsen looks to have his life. 
 

I must say, it nice to have cycling back. These next 8-12 weeks are going to be action packed! 

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One of the worst crashes I think I've ever seen. Inexcusable really and I'm sure he'll have to deal with fairly extensive disciplinary action.

 I'm sure that Dylan regrets his actions and their consequences, but at the end of the day he was doing what he felt that he needed to do to win. Everyone makes mistakes but the priority should be making sure that these sort of downhill, tightening finishes don't happen again, and that Jakobsen and also the photographer who he cleaned up are back to full health as quickly as possible.

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1 hour ago, BNothling said:

One of the worst crashes I think I've ever seen. 

Google Djamolidine Abdoujaparov from the days before helmets.cany believe he survived some of his crashes. 
 

I read somewhere Jakobsons DS wants Groenewegen charged by police. 

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30 minutes ago, roxii said:

Google Djamolidine Abdoujaparov from the days before helmets.cany believe he survived some of his crashes. 
 

I read somewhere Jakobsons DS wants Groenewegen charged by police. 

You mean Abdu-push-em-off?

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2 hours ago, roxii said:

Google Djamolidine Abdoujaparov from the days before helmets.cany believe he survived some of his crashes. 
 

I read somewhere Jakobsons DS wants Groenewegen charged by police. 

Matt Keenan said the race organizers will be sued for sure.  
 

look at the way the barrier fold. They were flimsy plastic. 

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26 minutes ago, Peter said:

You guys watching on the GCn app?  Is it good?

No. I had a pretty big day planned today, so didn't want to stay up all night. I got up early & watched the last 20km on Tiz Cycling.

Very good.

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21 hours ago, Aidan said:

Wout to attack on the Poggio

So is van Aert going to be to cycling this decade what Sagan was last? He doesn't have the sprinting ability of Sagan, but 2 from 2 of the Classics so far, if he continues to mature over the next few years, he'll be an amazing racer. Watching his sprint against a la Phillipe this morning, he just looked so controlled.

He's not racing Il Lombardia, so it'll be good to see how he goes in the Criterium du Dauphine next week.

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As an amateur armchair follower,  I think what he lacks in sprinting, he seemingly has a far better ‘racing’ brain (control) than Sagan. So nice to have so many exciting cyclists across the board coming through. 

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53 minutes ago, Bosco said:

So nice to have so many exciting cyclists across the board coming through. 

Remco Evenepoel certainly seems to be another with a bright future. In 2018 he won the Junior road race & ITT. Only 20 years old now, and took the silver in the senior ITT at last year's UCI WC when only 19. He's won 3 out of 3 stage races this year, and with 1 stage left should take out the Tour of Poland tonight. In 2018 he won the Junior road race & ITT.

It'll be interesting to see how DQT handle him. 

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12 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Remco Evenepoel certainly seems to be another with a bright future. In 2018 he won the Junior road race & ITT. Only 20 years old now, and took the silver in the senior ITT at last year's UCI WC when only 19. He's won 3 out of 3 stage races this year, and with 1 stage left should take out the Tour of Poland tonight. In 2018 he won the Junior road race & ITT.

It'll be interesting to see how DQT handle him. 

Took the absolute piss yesterday. Solo attack from 50km out and stayed away to win by 1:45. Huge talent.

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Criterium du Dauphine starts tonight. There are 7 categorised climbs, with an uphill finish just after the crest of a col, and this is regarded as the "flat" stage of the week. It's on SBS in half an hour.

My interest, other than to watch the racing, will be to see whether Wout is given latitude to race tonight, or whether he'll be there to protect Roglic, his team's notional leader. Jumbo-Visma has a great line-up, and is a good chance to knock Ineos off their perch. They've won it (as Team Sky) six of the last 9 years, and are bringing a very strong team along.

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13 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Criterium du Dauphine starts tonight. There are 7 categorised climbs, with an uphill finish just after the crest of a col, and this is regarded as the "flat" stage of the week. It's on SBS in half an hour.

My interest, other than to watch the racing, will be to see whether Wout is given latitude to race tonight, or whether he'll be there to protect Roglic, his team's notional leader. Jumbo-Visma has a great line-up, and is a good chance to knock Ineos off their perch. They've won it (as Team Sky) six of the last 9 years, and are bringing a very strong team along.

The Ineos vs J-V battle is going to be nuts. Both with fairly stacked teams.

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29 minutes ago, BNothling said:

My interest, other than to watch the racing, will be to see whether Wout is given latitude to race tonight, or whether he'll be there to protect Roglic, his team's notional leader.

It appears they let him have his fun last night. So strong on that last kick.

30 minutes ago, BNothling said:

The Ineos vs J-V battle is going to be nuts. Both with fairly stacked teams.

Yes, and with nearly every other TdF GC contender in the mix it will be a great few days. I'd love to see Froome's biometrics as he was dropped out the back. Was he going easy to ready himself for a big push over the next few days, or was the pace up that climb just too much for him? We'll see in the next few stages.

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5 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Was he going easy to ready himself for a big push over the next few days, or was the pace up that climb just too much for him? We'll see in the next few stages.

There's way too much unknown around everyone. The fitness levels that people will be carrying at the moment will depend on where they've been locked down around the world and what sort of training that they can do. Obviously not having any racing over the past 6 months hasn't helped things either so if you aren't an intrinsically motivated trainer and rely on racing for fitness, you're a bit stuffed.

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I drift into and out of following cycling. I’ve never been more engaged than right now. New batch of superstars, condensed season, not much else going- not sure what but it’s awesome. Just about to put in leave for the tdf! Will not be the same though without the sunflowers 🌻 

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Roglic showed who's boss today. 

And Froome a casualty again today, sitting in the train until the last climb, but dropping before he took his turn at the front. Worrying for Ineos, as with the tight schedule they'll be after the most out of all their big names this season, and maybe also worrying for Israel Startup.

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6 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Roglic showed who's boss today. 

And Froome a casualty again today, sitting in the train until the last climb, but dropping before he took his turn at the front. Worrying for Ineos, as with the tight schedule they'll be after the most out of all their big names this season, and maybe also worrying for Israel Startup.

I think you have to factor in that there is really no advantage in drafting up 10-11% froome was still there when some big names were thrown out the back already. 

He won't win the tour, but he has come a long way very quickly!

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5 minutes ago, dazaau said:

I think you have to factor in that there is really no advantage in drafting up 10-11% froome was still there when some big names were thrown out the back already. 

He won't win the tour, but he has come a long way very quickly!

There certainly must be some, hence the way the major teams, especially Ineos/Sky in recent years. They throw 4 strong climbers in front of their leader & they drop off 1 by 1 from the front. It certainly isn't the advantage they get on the flat, but remember, they are still going close to 30km/hr up those slopes.

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

There certainly must be some, hence the way the major teams, especially Ineos/Sky in recent years. They throw 4 strong climbers in front of their leader & they drop off 1 by 1 from the front. It certainly isn't the advantage they get on the flat, but remember, they are still going close to 30km/hr up those slopes.

https://cyclingtips.com/2018/08/does-drafting-a-teammate-uphill-actually-provide-any-benefit/#:~:text=Drafting%20makes%20sense%20on%20flat,becomes%20the%20riders'%20biggest%20anchor.

 

I guess there is some benefit even up steep sections. But I feel the main point of the exercise is to drive the train consistently hard so that everyone is on their limit and no one can attack. Those who are not on the team but are following also get a free ride. It is like a war of attrition, which I think has made it much less enjoyable to watch. 

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Way too much carnage in yesterday's racing.  Evenepoel with a broken pelvis after falling off a bridge :(  Unauthorised car taking out a Max Schachmann's collarbone as well. In the Dauphine Kruijkswijk is out. 

Not good. 

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13 minutes ago, dazaau said:

Way too much carnage in yesterday's racing.  Evenepoel with a broken pelvis after falling off a bridge :(  Unauthorised car taking out a Max Schachmann's collarbone as well. In the Dauphine Kruijkswijk is out. 

Not good. 

Buchmann also retired after being involved in the same crash as Kruijswijk, and with Bernal not starting stage 4 due to a back issue, that leaves 3 of the top 4 from last year's TdF out of the main lead-up race.

Horrible news for Evenepoel. 

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16 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Would you wear a $168k watch when out riding?

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If I didn't pay for it. totally! 

 

(as a pro cyclist I would be more concerned with the extra weight)

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On 16/08/2020 at 8:25 PM, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Buchmann also retired after being involved in the same crash as Kruijswijk, and with Bernal not starting stage 4 due to a back issue, that leaves 3 of the top 4 from last year's TdF out of the main lead-up race.

Horrible news for Evenepoel. 

Was Bernal about back issues or just had enough :P

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10 minutes ago, dazaau said:

Was Bernal about back issues or just had enough :P

You wonder don't you.

I wonder if he was kicking himself after Roglic pulled out the next day.

 

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I was pretty disappointed in Porte. I think he was a bit stuffed but he missed the crucial break and then when he caught on again was too stuffed to hold on. 

He could have podiumed or even won. Such a wasted opportunity. 

I liked watching Pinot, throwing a bit of a tantrum and being obsessed with Bardet. He is a bit nuts ha ha. 

Was the most exciting racing in ages, probably because the sky/ineos and now Jumbo trains were out of the picture. I much prefer long attacks and chases and drama to a steady procession of attrition followed by a last 500m attack. 

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Caleb Ewan has had a good start to the Tour de Wallonie. A win and a 2nd to hold the leader's jersey, he'll be gaining confidence in the lead-up to the Tour next weekend.

 

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