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Okay so I'm the first to admit that I don't train that much.  I usually just plod along in races.

Anyway my HR during the run/walk leg was super high for me.

For example. For the 21k that took me slightly over 2hr was 6:10k pace was 160bpm (average)

So yesterday I went and ran at 6:10k pace and my hr was 126bpm (average) I did 11km's

My legs actually felt fine on sunday but my body was tired.  As in, I was struggling to breathe. 

I've never had this issue before.

For example in Shep I ran 5:45K pace with an average HR of 144bpm

Shep was hot but not as hot as Geelong.  

Could this all just be heat related?

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7 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Your body was telling you that you need to train.

LOL

Yeah I know that.  But I figure I am better off saving time not training and spending a bit more time on the course.

Its a much better return on investment.

 

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2 minutes ago, Peter said:

LOL

Yeah I know that.  But I figure I am better off saving time not training and spending a bit more time on the course.

Its a much better return on investment.

 

That depends on what the after-race refreshments are. When they had free beer after a race, I always found you were better off racing fast & getting a few in before the heavy drinkers came and finished the rest off. :)

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5 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

That depends on what the after-race refreshments are. When they had free beer after a race, I always found you were better off racing fast & getting a few in before the heavy drinkers came and finished the rest off. :)

Geelong they had Alcohol free beer. Pretty much everyone was having one mouthful and leaving the bottle and walking off.

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10 minutes ago, Peter said:

Geelong they had Alcohol free beer. Pretty much everyone was having one mouthful and leaving the bottle and walking off.

That would be an extra kick in the guts after the race, Emotion high - finishing and woohoo free beer, quickly followed by bitter disappointment after finding out it was alcohol free

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1 minute ago, Limited said:

That would be an extra kick in the guts after the race, Emotion high - finishing and woohoo free beer, quickly followed by bitter disappointment after finding out it was alcohol free

It was made worse by the 50 people in front of me in the line.

 

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Probably from the excitement of getting ice cream, that was not available post race cause it all melted :(

 

160 sounds really high. Not sure what is going on but sounds unpleasant. 

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36 minutes ago, RunBrettRun said:

Dehydration?  I know my heart rate skyrockets when I am dehydrated.

 

I would agree with this.  Didn’t you post a pic of super salty legs?

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Maybe something else was going on, My HR data from the run is all over the place, with ~10mins above 206 (Highest in the last three months has been around 186 - and that was for less than 10seconds)

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I had similar experience at Tweed Coast. Turns out I was dehydrated and had a virus (Blood tests after confirmed).

NSF

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Probably a perfect storm of being unfit, it being hot and a bit of HR drift towards the end of a long day. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Cape_Horn said:

Maybe something else was going on, My HR data from the run is all over the place, with ~10mins above 206 (Highest in the last three months has been around 186 - and that was for less than 10seconds)

How young are you?! 206?! I am 33 and the highest I have seen my HR recently was 181 when I eeked out everything that was left in me at the end of a 8km run at pace.

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3 minutes ago, dazaau said:

How young are you?! 206?! I am 33 and the highest I have seen my HR recently was 181 when I eeked out everything that was left in me at the end of a 8km run at pace.

I was still getting 191 max, well into my mid/ late 40's. 

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2 minutes ago, dazaau said:

How young are you?! 206?! I am 33 and the highest I have seen my HR recently was 181 when I eeked out everything that was left in me at the end of a 8km run at pace.

Everyone's MHR is different. Similarly it will decrease with age but there can be massive variances across different people, as much as 30-40 bpm.

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Pete, was it spiking or averaging throughout the run ? If spiking, how long did it take to come down ? Were you dizzy at all, feel funny, could you feel it going up - like little fluffs or feeling the beating more than usual ? 

FM

 

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1 hour ago, RunBrettRun said:

Dehydration?  I know my heart rate skyrockets when I am dehydrated.

Actually possible.  Only had 2 biddons on the bike.

44 minutes ago, Wronggenes said:

I would agree with this.  Didn’t you post a pic of super salty legs?

Yep 

29 minutes ago, roxii said:

Probably a perfect storm of being unfit, it being hot and a bit of HR drift towards the end of a long day. 

 

no drift.

Bike avg HR was 150

Run was pretty much 161 most of run.  Will screen shot and upload soon.  In a meeting

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1 hour ago, dazaau said:

How young are you?! 206?! I am 33 and the highest I have seen my HR recently was 181 when I eeked out everything that was left in me at the end of a 8km run at pace.

Only 36, but I doubt those data points were valid, and I am guessing the hrm strap slipped. More pointing out that there might be other cases on why the data might not be valid.

(Note: I did a ride in 2012 where my HR was sitting on 197 for around 3 mins, I finished the climb, and then found myself in a garden bed, next to my bike, and had lost around 10mins. my HR has never been over 187 since. the 206 value from the weekend will be invalid data, I felt like I was mostly cruising. (unless I spiked majorly due to nearly running over a kid on the run course, while hammering down the hill) EDIT: - lol - just checked the run file, peaked at 234 - yeah.... NO)

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Dodgy Hr reading 

nothing to worry about 

even the 150 for the bike is too high for what you rode

 

and it wasn’t hot 

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2 minutes ago, ironpo said:

Dodgy Hr reading 

nothing to worry about 

even the 150 for the bike is too high for what you rode

 

and it wasn’t hot 

My wife thinks I was actually sick.  Haven't been sleeping much

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

Actually possible.  Only had 2 biddons on the bike.

Yep 

no drift.

Bike avg HR was 150

Run was pretty much 161 most of run.  Will screen shot and upload soon.  In a meeting

150 bike and 161 seems pretty normal for unfit and correspond to each other. Jeez I had a 167 ave for my Marathon last year.

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7 minutes ago, nealo said:

150 bike and 161 seems pretty normal for unfit and correspond to each other. Jeez I had a 167 ave for my Marathon last year.

Were you walking?  I walked a lot and it was still 161bpm

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1 hour ago, nealo said:

Link your activity or post screenshot of HR graph.

 

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6 hours ago, RunBrettRun said:

Dehydration?  I know my heart rate skyrockets when I am dehydrated.

 

He looked bloated in his photo's maybe too much water...........

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5 hours ago, Peter said:

My wife thinks I was actually sick.  Haven't been sleeping much

She's probably on the right path with that thought. Tiredness, dehydration, lack of fitness will all combine to elevate your HR. Noting your age and your love of sushi, I'm tipping your blood pressure may have been up a bit and that pushes your HR up as well. 

Soultion = Train, eat well and get some sleep.

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14 hours ago, nealo said:

150 bike and 161 seems pretty normal for unfit and correspond to each other. Jeez I had a 167 ave for my Marathon last year.

Peter isn’t unfit as he claims or thinks 

160 is high for anyone been doing consistent training of some sort for years like him and walkingmost of the run 

might just have a bug , not enough electrolytes , and dehydration all combined 

 

also running/racing a marathon is a diffent beast to peter pretty much rolling around in a half marathon for 6hrs

 

 

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15 hours ago, Peter said:

My wife thinks I was actually sick.  Haven't been sleeping much

Go get your bloods done 

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1 hour ago, ironpo said:

Go get your bloods done 

I only did a week before.  Came back all good. 

Could have just been an off day for me.  

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2 hours ago, Peter said:

I only did a week before.  Came back all good. 

Could have just been an off day for me.  

Good news then

fair chance it was just HR incorrect reading , 

it wasn’t as if you had any massive spikes , just consistently high all day 

faulty  data , who could belive that would happen lol 😂 

 

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1 hour ago, ironpo said:

Good news then

fair chance it was just HR incorrect reading , 

it wasn’t as if you had any massive spikes , just consistently high all day 

faulty  data , who could belive that would happen lol 😂 

 

Fair chance he's old, fat & unfit

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10 minutes ago, Bored@work said:

Fair chance he's old, fat & unfit

I think it's more polite to say he was just bloated from too much water..😂

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23 minutes ago, Bored@work said:

Fair chance he's old, fat & unfit

But with Hair. 

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3 hours ago, Bored@work said:

Did you have a worming tablet? & was it vegan?

Can vegans take worming tablets. 

Surely that kills the worms, that’s very unvegan 

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How can you tell if some one is vegan? 

You don't have to.............if you wait long enough they will tell you!!! Boom Tish.

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3 hours ago, Greyman said:

How can you tell if some one is vegan? 

You don't have to.............if you wait long enough they will tell you!!! Boom Tish.

Wait I thought that was triathletes...

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29 minutes ago, dazaau said:

Wait I thought that was triathletes...

It doesn't work so well as a year ago but I like the joke "A vegan, a triathlete and a bitcoin trader walk into a bar... Who tells you first?"

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might just have a bug , not enough electrolytes , and dehydration all combined 

Also if you haven't been training much your run technique would have very likely got sloppy, I bet any photos taken had you heel striking out in front of you - dehydration - lack of fitness - less efficient run technique would all contribute - you probably live your life in comfortable controlled temperatures -  a hot day will put any unfit guys HR up 😪

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We don’t get hot days to train in. 

Not sure at what point the photo was taken. But those board were at least 6km in. 

Comment away on the feet AP. Happy for feedback. 

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

We don’t get hot days to train in. 

Not sure at what point the photo was taken. But those board were at least 6km in. 

Comment away on the feet AP. Happy for feedback. 

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Looks better than my form on the run 😂

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1 hour ago, Tyno said:

So white, they could be FPs legs!

I was tanned after the race. 

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9 hours ago, Peter said:

We don’t get hot days to train in. 

Not sure at what point the photo was taken. But those board were at least 6km in. 

Comment away on the feet AP. Happy for feedback. 

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It wasn’t hot , 29 deg s is perfect race conditions 

nuffin wrong with a heel strike , I’ve run plenty of sub 3-15 IM runs with my heel strike running 

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