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So how do you fill, then unload, then reload your trolley with those things? 

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Fill trolley as usual. Trolley bags hang off handle of trolley all folded up. Load groceries on conveyor. Install trolley bags into trolley. When Aldi checkout operator scans at speed of light you speed sort into different trolley bags. They come apart for loading into car and car-house.

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3 minutes ago, Parkside said:

Fill trolley as usual. Trolley bags hang off handle of trolley all folded up. Load groceries on conveyor. Install trolley bags into trolley. When Aldi checkout operator scans at speed of light you speed sort into different trolley bags. They come apart for loading into car and car-house.

Aaah, I don't do Aldi, none real convenient to us yet, apparently one is going in Sharks carpark along with Woolies and Dan Murphys soon though. 

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1 hour ago, Parkside said:

Fill trolley as usual. Trolley bags hang off handle of trolley all folded up. Load groceries on conveyor. Install trolley bags into trolley. When Aldi checkout operator scans at speed of light you speed sort into different trolley bags. They come apart for loading into car and car-house.

yeah thats the concept and its not just Aldi related, they have been for sale elsewhere and see some people using them in coles and woolies etc...

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OT but still plastic!  We've run out of water so are now buying our drinking water (for tea/coffee's as well).  But should I be buying the big 10L tapped bottles, or the cartons of 600ml bottles?  Price is about the same.  Is one worse than the other?

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Few things to consider 

Do you have a multi reuse of the large bottle at home?

Check the recycling mound on the 10l if 1 for pet then good to recycle?

then weight of plastic 10l may use more plastic also energy efficiency of mouldings will be less on smaller bottles as made on more energy efficient machines. 

Last my plant doesn’t make 10l so not keeping me in a job

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Can't you get a tanker in?

The tanker fill-up point in Samford has been running non-stop for the past week or 2. There was one filling & another waiting when I went past before 5am this morning.

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We don't really want town water in our tanks.  In particular if they use the fill up point near us, as our particular town water comes from a bore, which isn't the issue!  It's heavily chlorinated; turn on a tap and it smells like an indoor council pool.  It's undrinkable.

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Nope, we'll be fine.  Our tanks have only run dry once before in the last nine years, and was only for a month last time.  Though I think will be longer this time.  And for us is all or nothing the way the house is plumbed; it's everything on tank, or everything on town.  In a year's time the area is getting connected to the main town supply which will be better, cept they're doubling or access fee and water usage fees :(

It was just the talk earlier about how plastic water bottles are such an issue.  Last time we ran out, I was buying those.  This time I'm buying those big 10l containers, and was thinking they still take up as much room in the recycled bin, but I guess from a recycling standpoint it's possibly better?

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21 minutes ago, goughy said:

  This time I'm buying those big 10l containers, and was thinking they still take up as much room in the recycled bin, but I guess from a recycling standpoint it's possibly better?

The logic goes the larger the volume, the less surface area so therefore should be less plastic.  But check for the PET1 or PETE symbol as these are supposedly the best for recycling and the least damaging for health

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2 hours ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Have you thought of a bore?

How much is the minimum cost of sinking a bore? My relatives had a quote of $200K. Luckily they were able to negotiate to buy water from their neighbour who has a bore to get them through until it rains. They just had to run pipe to their system. The watercourse that runs through their place north of Gundy is bone dry for the first time they can remember.

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4 minutes ago, Parkside said:

How much is the minimum cost of sinking a bore? My relatives had a quote of $200K. Luckily they were able to negotiate to buy water from their neighbour who has a bore to get them through until it rains. They just had to run pipe to their system. The watercourse that runs through their place north of Gundy is bone dry for the first time they can remember.

It all depends on the depth required. A few around our area use them. $200k sounds a lot. Here most bores are between 100 and 300 feet to get to the aquifier, and quotes are between $6K to $20K. Another $1,500 for a filter system to have it ready to drink. 

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9 minutes ago, Parkside said:

How much is the minimum cost of sinking a bore? 

Been a while, but think it was something for like $30K for a water source that is not that deep, basically you pay a set amount to start with a few metres of piping included, then you pay for every bit of extra length needed to go to find the water.  The deeper you go the more expensive, but also the more reliable the source in the dry.  Also depends on the water flow rate (ie width of the piping) and the type of country / soil being dug through.  Sandy / Rocky soil tends to chew through the equipment alot more than the clay

 

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31 minutes ago, Parkside said:

How much is the minimum cost of sinking a bore? 

Coupla hundred at my place but it’s only 3m of sand so probably not that tricky. 

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On 07/08/2018 at 4:03 PM, IronJimbo said:

lol

This whole 'issue' is all kinds of awesome

A greeny so-called initiative that will both raise revenue and cut costs for big evil corporations whilst doing three-fifths of f*ck all for the environment

Well done guys, keep it up

1.5 billion fewer bags used since it started. Plastic bag consumption down 80-90%. Wonder if we can get the other two-fifths happening? 

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We used to use a heap of the old shopping bags for dumping rubbish etc in.  Our kitchen rubbish bins are bigger so I bought large bin liners for them as it was.  When the ban came in I bought one roll of glad small plastic bags, about the same size as the old shopping bags.  Months later and we still have most of those left, hardly used any.  I can't even explain how things have changed here, bit clearly they have.

What I do have is a heap of reusable bags, cause of the times I get caught out forgetting to put them back in the car, or forgetting to take them into the shops with me.

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21 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

I wonder how sales of plastic bin liners are holding up..

Only “evidence” I could find was for ACT after plastic bag ban, 30% increase in bin liner purchases initially then back to pre-ban levels 

Our household experience shows recycling soft plastic in redcycle bin has had the biggest impact, reduced our waste to landfill by 1/3 to 1/2 every week. We have always bought full sized garbage bags and used to fill two a week and fill our red bin weekly plus go and dump extra in neighbours bins almost every week. We now rarely fill our own bin and never use more than one garbage bag. So consumption is down 50% at our place.

if we got organised with composting we’d reduce our waste to landfill even more

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17 minutes ago, Parkside said:

Our household experience shows recycling soft plastic in redcycle bin has had the biggest impact, reduced our waste to landfill by 1/3 to 1/2 every week.

THIS. Small household, but I only throw away 1 bag of rubbish per week now.

I obviously have a bit of a different opinion than most here judging by the posts. 

I totally support the ban, in Germany we haven't had free bags probably all my life, and we have a totally different mindset towards recycling. It's a good change!

I also recycle all bottles and take them to the recycling stations here maybe about twice a year.

 

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2 hours ago, humdrum said:

THIS. Small household, but I only throw away 1 bag of rubbish per week now.

I obviously have a bit of a different opinion than most here judging by the posts. 

I totally support the ban, in Germany we haven't had free bags probably all my life, and we have a totally different mindset towards recycling. It's a good change!

I also recycle all bottles and take them to the recycling stations here maybe about twice a year.

 

Germany so far ahead of the game. I remember shopping in an Aldi type complex in the late 90's, was BYO folding crates or bags, no bags at all from the store, there was a bar just outside the registers with the old burghers sinking a few steins while the missus did the shopping. 

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I think they're no so far ahead that 'Restmuell' (landfill rubbish) has decreased so much that it only gets collected every 2 weeks, and bins are as small as 40l (They have some sort of insert to reduce volume of a standard bin)

If you have more, you can purchase a bag for €3.50 to be collected as well.

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4 hours ago, Parkside said:

Only “evidence” I could find was for ACT after plastic bag ban, 30% increase in bin liner purchases initially then back to pre-ban levels 

Our household experience shows recycling soft plastic in redcycle bin has had the biggest impact, reduced our waste to landfill by 1/3 to 1/2 every week. We have always bought full sized garbage bags and used to fill two a week and fill our red bin weekly plus go and dump extra in neighbours bins almost every week. We now rarely fill our own bin and never use more than one garbage bag. So consumption is down 50% at our place.

if we got organised with composting we’d reduce our waste to landfill even more

Serious question, do you think having young kids makes a difference to the amount of rubbish or would depend if you bought food stuff marketed at that age group?  

The bins in our street with kids in the household 'seem' to have lots more rubbish in their bins

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4 minutes ago, Surfer said:

Serious question, do you think having young kids makes a difference to the amount of rubbish or would depend if you bought food stuff marketed at that age group?  

The bins in our street with kids in the household 'seem' to have lots more rubbish in their bins

No doubt.. we tend to buy a lot of packaged stuff but even when trying to reduce that then we usually end up cooking multiple meals each time to cater for varied tastes...

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