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1 hour ago, Limited said:

Managed 20 x 100 today held 1:50 for the first 15 then slipped to about 1:55 and could feel my form slipping.

Was going on 2:15 is this too much rest? Yes I know I'm slow but at the start of winter fish I couldn't hold 2:00 for more then 5

If you are trying to build your endurance, then it's probably a little too much, though you were starting to fall at the end. 15 seconds is plenty of recovery. 25 seconds is normally considered a speed session. I'd bring it down to 2:10 and see how you go. Maybe slow slightly to 1:55 and try to hold that all the way through. If you manage that, then try 2:05.

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Only 1.3km to go now. This should work out perfect with me hitting my target in an OWS at sunrise on the Winter Solstice.

 

If anybody is interested in the "Ice-Mile", we are at Enoggera Reservoir at 6am tomorrow.

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@Ex-Hasbeen I would have struggled to believe people were doing this kind of volume in anything other than the ocean around this time of year! Great stuff :)

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2 hours ago, Limited said:

Managed 20 x 100 today held 1:50 for the first 15 then slipped to about 1:55 and could feel my form slipping.

Was going on 2:15 is this too much rest? Yes I know I'm slow but at the start of winter fish I couldn't hold 2:00 for more then 5

That's quite a big main set. Maybe do a warm-up, some drills and a main set of 10 x 100m focusing on form, you should be able to come in 1.40 on a 2 min cycle. Personally I focus on the quality of the set rather than the volume. i.e smaller main set, but quicker. And mix it up. Seems a lot of tri-squads tri swim sets are built around 100s and to a lesser extent 50s and 200s. Try doing some 400m main sets. You should find it really hard if you've been mostly doing 100s. I'm not sure of the relevance of 100m sets for long course swimming.

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32 minutes ago, xblane said:

@Ex-Hasbeen I would have struggled to believe people were doing this kind of volume in anything other than the ocean around this time of year! Great stuff :)

It's getting cold now. Last week it was cold to get in, and cold once you got out and the blood started flowing again. Now I actually feel the cold while I'm swimming as well. And I think the girl beside me in the bus started to worry when I started shivering about 5 minutes into the ride. :)

It's 18 degrees in the water, but I suppose the fact that the air temp is single figures makes your arms cold every stroke. And the brain freeze lasts longer all the time too. Another week & that will do me for morning swims. I might see if it's warmer in the afternoon.

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33 minutes ago, zed said:

That's quite a big main set. Maybe do a warm-up, some drills and a main set of 10 x 100m focusing on form, you should be able to come in 1.40 on a 2 min cycle. Personally I focus on the quality of the set rather than the volume. i.e smaller main set, but quicker. And mix it up. Seems a lot of tri-squads tri swim sets are built around 100s and to a lesser extent 50s and 200s. Try doing some 400m main sets. You should find it really hard if you've been mostly doing 100s. I'm not sure of the relevance of 100m sets for long course swimming.

Thanks Zed. Its not something I would normally do, more of a test to see where I'm at and a mental test to push all the way to the 20. Not sure how many I could do coming in on 1:40. my best sprint is only about 1:35 :sadwalk: . I did the 400m set you posted the other day and really enjoyed it.

1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

If you are trying to build your endurance, then it's probably a little too much, though you were starting to fall at the end. 15 seconds is plenty of recovery. 25 seconds is normally considered a speed session. I'd bring it down to 2:10 and see how you go. Maybe slow slightly to 1:55 and try to hold that all the way through. If you manage that, then try 2:05.

Taking this and what Zed said I'll try and shorten the rest and the number of repeats

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1 hour ago, Limited said:

Thanks Zed. Its not something I would normally do, more of a test to see where I'm at and a mental test to push all the way to the 20. Not sure how many I could do coming in on 1:40. my best sprint is only about 1:35 :sadwalk: . I did the 400m set you posted the other day and really enjoyed it.

 

I'm glad you enjoyed them, I hate em! But they've helped my overall endurance.

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36 minutes ago, zed said:

I'm glad you enjoyed them, I hate em! But they've helped my overall endurance.

maybe enjoy was the wrong word.... felt good once they were done

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6 hours ago, zed said:

That's quite a big main set. Maybe do a warm-up, some drills and a main set of 10 x 100m focusing on form, you should be able to come in 1.40 on a 2 min cycle. Personally I focus on the quality of the set rather than the volume. i.e smaller main set, but quicker. And mix it up. Seems a lot of tri-squads tri swim sets are built around 100s and to a lesser extent 50s and 200s. Try doing some 400m main sets. You should find it really hard if you've been mostly doing 100s. I'm not sure of the relevance of 100m sets for long course swimming.

It's funny...I am focusing more on volume than quality at the moment - specifically trying to build up to a regular (at least once a week) 4.5-5k session. I am just trying to get some sort of a base back.. To do this, I am telling myself...'don't worry so much about the quality, just get the distance done'.. I've managed a couple of 4k sessions recently, which I hadn't done for quite a while. Also, 400's have replaced 100's for the time being. And it's weird...the speed* is seeming to come along anyhow.

It's a nice feeling to do some 400 reps & see that you are 10 seconds or so faster than it 'felt'... been a while.

 

But seriously...nothing beats consistency. Well done to all who are swimming at this time of year.

 

 

*relative term...!

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53 minutes ago, Nick777 said:

And it's weird...the speed* is seeming to come along anyhow.

I've found the same thing. I'm doing big miles (for me anyway) and all open water, so very little real speed work. The first section of my swim goes a little over 800m to a buoy, then I turn out to the dam proper. I always take a look at the time when I get to the buoy. This morning was real cold, and I swim slowly at first to get my breathing right, then a bit of breaststroke to keep my head up till it the pain goes away, so probably 100m of real slow swimming. I got to the buoy nearly a minute faster than I was doing 3 months ago. That probably means 1:30 if I wasn't mucking around at the start. And it didn't feel hard.

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Yeah this was good fun. I'll be back in next year for sure. Aiming for 100 

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As it’s only the middle of winter I’m going to challenge myself to continue for another 50 days and 50 kms

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2 minutes ago, Limited said:

As it’s only the middle of winter I’m going to challenge myself to continue for another 50 days and 50 kms

I think I'll do the same. Mine may be heavily weighted to either end though, when the dam is still bearable now, and the pool opens in early August. :)

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On 17/06/2018 at 6:02 PM, FFF1077 said:

Did 2km at the Cockburn pool. 

Great facilities. 

Lane to myself outside. 

No access to my dongle to upload the file. 

Didn't happen then 😊xx

On 18/06/2018 at 8:46 AM, Flanman said:

I'm sitting here with nine stitches in my elbow and a divot in my check - just wishing to swim. You lot enjoy yourself swimming. I'll be back in two weeks.

FM

 

Is the ocean an option?

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We had 9 along for the inaugural Brisbane Ice Mile this morning. Not really Ice, but the water temp was 15 near the beach area, and 17 out at the turn, so it was pretty cold. This completed my 125km target for Winterfish, so I'm stoked.

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Thanks to everyone on here, because I know that without Winterfish, my togs & goggles would have been in the bottom drawer a few weeks ago now, and I'd be having a much harder time kicking off next Spring. And that's the whole point behind Winterfish.

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Great work Trannies.

I trust I’ll survive 13C on Sunday at CDA 70.3. 

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58 minutes ago, pieman said:

I'd head to the pre race IV tent just to be sure...

Can they put Seasol into the drip? It helps plants deal with frost. She'll be right. :)

 

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3.3km winter solstice swim *

 

 

*in a 25m indoor pool 😂😂😎💪🤘😁😁😁😁

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Done! And with 3 days to spare.  Well, it kept me motivated - let's see how I can keep myself motivated for the month of July.  That''ll be tough...

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5 minutes ago, BogFrog said:

Done! And with 3 days to spare.  Well, it kept me motivated - let's see how I can keep myself motivated for the month of July.  That''ll be tough...

5 out of 12 completed, and Limited with only 1.7km to go is a good chance. Well done to all who made it, and better luck (or motivation) next time to those who didn't.

As BF said, let's try to keep motivated for July. I know my local pool reopens in the 2nd week of August, so if I can keep swimming through July, I'll have an easy start to the season. Something I haven't had for 30 years. :)

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It's been great fun. 

If I hadn't have contracted the worst man flu ever.....and missed 12 possible swimming days.... I would have gotten close to the 100 

 

Thanks all. 😎👌

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Yeah well done all. Hoping to finish off tomorrow 

FFF you only signed on for 50 so you smashed that goal. :thumbs_up:

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