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I know of a RD that is thinking of an event , but needs a good calm beach or lake in central to nth nsw or Sth qld for a longish swim

obviously there is Noosa but what else is out there ?

must be a sheltered bay with reliable swimming conditions ( for tricathaletes) 

any thoughts?

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What sort of numbers, and how long is "longish"? And I assume it needs to be in a location where you can safely ride from? 

 

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Botany bay you can get nearly 2k in a straight (ish)  line only  about 20 m from shore, just beyond the rock groynes. 

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oh I think what I know what this is... 

another ultra distance tricathalon? possibly run by a trannie? 

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Copeton Dam near Inverell - http://www.copetonswim.com/

Did the 600 & 2km one year, was smooth as glass.

And now they have a 5km swim.

PS - I have contacts in Inverell Council, could help you get them involved/onside/supportive.  Would be a great tourism boost to the town like HoW.

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1 hour ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

What sort of numbers, and how long is "longish"? And I assume it needs to be in a location where you can safely ride from? 

 

Yes

and longish means longer than 3.8k and shorter than 11k

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1 hour ago, ComfortablyNumb said:

Copeton Dam near Inverell - http://www.copetonswim.com/

Did the 600 & 2km one year, was smooth as glass.

And now they have a 5km swim.

PS - I have contacts in Inverell Council, could help you get them involved/onside/supportive.  Would be a great tourism boost to the town like HoW.

This would be great 

just a bit too far from everywhere 

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8 minutes ago, BC_J400 said:

Don't try a long swim in Melbourne 

I can garrentee that won't be happening 

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1 hour ago, roxii said:

Botany bay you can get nearly 2k in a straight (ish)  line only  about 20 m from shore, just beyond the rock groynes. 

Be a bit hard to get the ride done out of sydneeeee

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4 minutes ago, ironpo said:

This would be great 

just a bit too far from everywhere 

Pity about inveral being so far away as this lake , town size and with a cooperative council would be perfect place to start enquiries 

I believe The fresh water or "lake " option is preferred as having the capacity to garrentee a flat(ish) swim would be a great asset  for the event 

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3 minutes ago, ironpo said:

This would be great 

just a bit too far from everywhere 

What are you talking about? Inverell is close and handy for me.

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Wivenhoe Dam. West of Brisbane (in the Brisbane Valley). Bugger all accom at site other than camping, but close enough to other Brisbane/Ipswich and small towns nearby. Plenty of open roads with rolling hills, or mountain ranges if that's your thing.

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32 minutes ago, ironpo said:

This would be great 

just a bit too far from everywhere 

So an ultraman has to be easy to get to? :lol:

Bit like people saying they don't go to the gym because they hate walking up the stairs to get there

Lot's of other bodies of water around Northern NSW as well.  Glenlyon is not around any town to support anything, Tenterfield has a dam close by just south east of the town as another option, Lake Keepit down near Tamworth, Stanthorpe has storm king dam - think they do a big bike ride around there every year, Leslie Dam west of Warwick

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5 minutes ago, RunBrettRun said:

How bout Port?

Port is perfect and was one of their first options until the ride comes into play 

no RD would be mad enough to put people out on unclosed roads around port 

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3 minutes ago, Ruley said:

Lennox heads or balina is great for open water swimming 

Any particular spot 

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2 minutes ago, Ruley said:

Lennox heads or balina is great for open water swimming 

speaking to Grant Giles a while back, he said the amount of sharks around Balina now is out of control.  While they havent had an attack for a while surfers are getting chased in on a weekly basis and some guys just refuse to surf in certain spots anymore.  He also had an interesting encounter with a shark attacking his double ski in the river one afternoon.

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17 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Wivenhoe Dam. West of Brisbane (in the Brisbane Valley). Bugger all accom at site other than camping, but close enough to other Brisbane/Ipswich and small towns nearby. Plenty of open roads with rolling hills, or mountain ranges if that's your thing.

How far is Wivenhoe from Ipswich?

were do you swim EX?

 

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1 minute ago, RunBrettRun said:

speaking to Grant Giles a while back, he said the amount of sharks around Balina now is out of control.  While they havent had an attack for a while surfers are getting chased in on a weekly basis and some guys just refuse to surf in certain spots anymore.  He also had an interesting encounter with a shark attacking his double ski in the river one afternoon.

Tick that one off the list then !!!!

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1 minute ago, ironpo said:

Port is perfect and was one of their first options until the ride comes into play 

no RD would be mad enough to put people out on unclosed roads around port 

fair enough, maybe it says a bit that I haven't been on the road in port in almost 3 months.  But there is a few decent rides we have done where while the road surface isn't great I've never felt particularly unsafe.

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41 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

So an ultraman has to be easy to get to? :lol:

Bit like people saying they don't go to the gym because they hate walking up the stairs to get there

Lot's of other bodies of water around Northern NSW as well.  Glenlyon is not around any town to support anything, Tenterfield has a dam close by just south east of the town as another option, Lake Keepit down near Tamworth, Stanthorpe has storm king dam - think they do a big bike ride around there every year, Leslie Dam west of Warwick

Lake Keepit was first that I thought of. Did Tamworth Tri there in 1985.

Tamworth isn't short of accommodation either.

What are some of the minor roads leading up into the Great Dividing Range like?

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31 minutes ago, ironpo said:

Port is perfect and was one of their first options until the ride comes into play 

no RD would be mad enough to put people out on unclosed roads around port 

There is some brilliant cycling on quiet roads in that area. You just have to think west of the Pacific Highway.

Swim in the river at Wauchope. The road up to Comboyne is a decent climb. Is it sealed all the way to Wingham?

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33 minutes ago, ironpo said:

How far is Wivenhoe from Ipswich?

were do you swim EX?

 

Wivenhoe's about 30mins from Ipswich, down the Brisbane Valley HWY through Fernvale. Plenty of decent campgrounds at the lake. Small towns nearby, but not sure if there's much accom in them. They used to run an OD there a few years back and just used the roads at the lake, but there are plenty of country roads around to go longer.

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there is a good loop we from port down to Lauriton, out to kew, along the freeway for 5k or so, in through wauchope and out to telegraph point then back into port, which is about 160k, if you added in an out and back to Lorne and out and back to Papinbarra you're getting up around 230-240k.  That would test a lot of people and you could easily find the extra 40k required when coming back into town or by adding an out and back at the start and finish to settlement point would get it close.

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43 minutes ago, ironpo said:

How far is Wivenhoe from Ipswich?

were do you swim EX?

 

bRace provided the details around location. Excellent riding options either on the main road or off on the side roads. Some of them are very quiet.

I swim at Enoggera Reservoir. It's only 8km from the Brisbane CBD, so accom isn't an issue. Getting a good ride could be an issue, though if they don't mind starting the ride with a mountain climb, they could head straight away from Brisbane on rural roads. You could always specify MTB, and trail running, then their are few better places around.

If you did a loop course in the lake you'd get 5 to 6km.

 

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1 hour ago, Paul Every said:

Lake Keepit was first that I thought of. Did Tamworth Tri there in 1985.

Tamworth isn't short of accommodation either.

What are some of the minor roads leading up into the Great Dividing Range like?

It's still Tamworth though, if there, no need for a penalty box as the competitors have been punished enough already

Roads up there, particularly along the Tamworth stretch over the range are windy.  If coming from Sydney / Newcastle would be better going through Muswellbrook, from Brissie up Cunninghams gap or through Casino and down the NE Highway.  Tamworth (and Armidale) does have a decent airport with it though which many of the other options mentioned so far don't.  Don't know how the regional planes would handle too many bike boxes though

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Might be getting too far south, but Mudgee seems to put the same type of yuppies that get attracted to Noosa in a spin when they think country.  Lake Windameyer just south could be an option for the swim.  Fair bit of accomodation around town

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58 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

There is some brilliant cycling on quiet roads in that area. You just have to think west of the Pacific Highway.

Swim in the river at Wauchope. The road up to Comboyne is a decent climb. Is it sealed all the way to Wingham?

 

1 hour ago, RunBrettRun said:

fair enough, maybe it says a bit that I haven't been on the road in port in almost 3 months.  But there is a few decent rides we have done where while the road surface isn't great I've never felt particularly unsafe.

There must be some good safe roads around and out past  wauhope 

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2 minutes ago, ironpo said:

 

There must be some good safe roads around and out past  wauhope 

Yes, that's the area both RBR and I were referring to.

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6 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

It's still Tamworth though, if there, no need for a penalty box as the competitors have been punished enough already

Roads up there, particularly along the Tamworth stretch over the range are windy.  If coming from Sydney / Newcastle would be better going through Muswellbrook, from Brissie up Cunninghams gap or through Casino and down the NE Highway.  Tamworth (and Armidale) does have a decent airport with it though which many of the other options mentioned so far don't.  Don't know how the regional planes would handle too many bike boxes though

I was thinking of the roads over the range for a cycle course, rather than a driving route.

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4 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

I was thinking of the roads over the range for a cycle course, rather than a driving route.

Go west, rather than over the range, still some hills that way but far less traffic

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3 hours ago, ironpo said:

This would be great 

just a bit too far from everywhere 

Closer than Gundi HoW, which gets people from all over.  Inverell also has a Tri Club who could assist.  Inverell also now has an air-service from Brisbane on Fly Corporate (fairly small planes though - 20 seats?).  Copeton Dam is really nice freshwater - with huge murray cod and yellowbelly to be caught when the racing is done.  Also has quite an extensive camp ground with nice cabins.  And an MTB track close by.

1 hour ago, Paul Every said:

Lake Keepit was first that I thought of. Did Tamworth Tri there in 1985.

Tamworth isn't short of accommodation either.

What are some of the minor roads leading up into the Great Dividing Range like?

Yup, have also done one there.

46 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

It's still Tamworth though, if there, no need for a penalty box as the competitors have been punished enough already

Roads up there, particularly along the Tamworth stretch over the range are windy.  If coming from Sydney / Newcastle would be better going through Muswellbrook, from Brissie up Cunninghams gap or through Casino and down the NE Highway.  Tamworth (and Armidale) does have a decent airport with it though which many of the other options mentioned so far don't.  Don't know how the regional planes would handle too many bike boxes though

NE Highway from Sydney (4.5hrs) or Brisbane (7hrs).  Tamworth has the larger Qantas Link planes compared to Armidale.  You can fly direct from Syd or Brisb to either though, though the planes into Armidale (and Inverell) from Brisb are smaller and could hold limited bikes.

Malpas Dam 20km north or Armidale is another option (they row & sail on it) but only if the ride was on MTBs not roadies/TTs.  Keepit and Copeton both give great opportunities for an off-road tri with MTBs.

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IP I just mapped out the ride I was talking about, it is 240k with 2500m of climbing on some of the roughest roads in australia ;)

 

not sure if this will work....   http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/1860669731

i think you have to sign up to be able to view it.

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22 minutes ago, RunBrettRun said:

IP I just mapped out the ride I was talking about, it is 240k with 2500m of climbing on some of the roughest roads in australia ;)

 

not sure if this will work....   http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/1860669731

i think you have to sign up to be able to view it.

 Can't see the route but I'm sure it's a good one 

main issue is road safety , shoulders , traffic volume etc and also road conditions 

seriously how tough are they once you get away from port , probably typlical country nsw roads which are the roughest roads in oz by my experience 

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34 minutes ago, RunBrettRun said:

come for a weekend on your way home from Um and we can go explore.

 

Or just ask Shuffla

Will do

he will be here in a few days

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10 hours ago, Ruley said:

Lennox heads or balina is great for open water swimming 

Dorsal Alert is my favourite app, whenever I go to ballina for work, i go for a swim in the surf  at lighthouse beach very early, I go out the back, Im having very dark thoughts the entire time and thank god when I come in in one piece. 

 

the river would be good though, need to get the tides right i suspect

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3 hours ago, Oompa Loompa said:

Dorsal Alert is my favourite app, whenever I go to ballina for work, i go for a swim in the surf  at lighthouse beach very early, I go out the back, Im having very dark thoughts the entire time and thank god when I come in in one piece. 

 

the river would be good though, need to get the tides right i suspect

Your to big for them to eat

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18 hours ago, Ruley said:

Lennox heads or balina is great for open water swimming 

Agree. Lennox head

great spot. Fly into Gold Coast. 30 min drive. 

 

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15 hours ago, ironpo said:

seriously how tough are they once you get away from port , probably typlical country nsw roads which are the roughest roads in oz by my experience 

Yeah but....no but.  Is it UltraMan or PussyBoy? :wink1:

On that, my Mrs & her friends did that Syd to Gong MS ride the other week.  They'd heard horror stories about how hard the hills were blah blah.  Said it was a piece of piss, easiest 83kms they'd ridden.  But all these fit looking blokes with expensive gear and shaved legs walking their bikes up the hills :rolleyes:  Typical NSW country roads are character building.

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1 hour ago, ComfortablyNumb said:

On that, my Mrs & her friends did that Syd to Gong MS ride the other week.  They'd heard horror stories about how hard the hills were blah blah.  Said it was a piece of piss, easiest 83kms they'd ridden.  But all these fit looking blokes with expensive gear and shaved legs walking their bikes up the hills :rolleyes:  Typical NSW country roads are character building.

Exactly.  The typical bloke doing the Gong ride  probably sits in groups of 30 rolling around the smoothest, flattest roads they can find and then tell their work mates about their epic ride on the weekend. 

Disclosure that I haven't ridden more than 50k in about 5 years :lol:

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1 hour ago, ComfortablyNumb said:

Yeah but....no but.  Is it UltraMan or PussyBoy? :wink1:

On that, my Mrs & her friends did that Syd to Gong MS ride the other week.  They'd heard horror stories about how hard the hills were blah blah.  Said it was a piece of piss, easiest 83kms they'd ridden.  But all these fit looking blokes with expensive gear and shaved legs walking their bikes up the hills :rolleyes:  Typical NSW country roads are character building.

Who said it's an ultraman ??.

 Nuffin to do with hills , hills are good , it's more the unsafe surface , shoulders etc 

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