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Why do you/don't you wear Hoka's?

  

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  1. 1. The models of Hoka I wear are

    • Stinson
      6
    • Arahi
      4
    • Clayton
      3
    • Speed Instict
      1
    • Bondi
      9
    • Tracer
      3
    • Clifton
      9
    • Vanquish
      0
    • Speedgoat
      2
    • Challenger
      3
    • Other
      11
    • I don't wear Hoka's
      26
  2. 2. I buy my Hokas......

    • Online - Overseas
      4
    • Online - Australian Stores
      18
    • Bricks and Mortar Store
      15
    • Other
      3
    • I don't wear Hoka's
      26
  3. 3. When I need to replace my Hokas I will replace them wiith...

    • The Same Model Hoka (i.e Clifton 3 with Clifton 3)
      10
    • Newer version of same model Hoka (I.e Clifton replaced with Clifton 4)
      21
    • Similar style shoe (Altra, Vasque, Brooks Transcend)
      2
    • A more "mainstream" shoe
      3
    • I don't wear Hoka's
      26


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Rob    67

I tried them on in the store (FootPro, Malvern, VIC). They felt OK and when I tested them on the in-store treadmill they felt OK. However I also tried Saucony Kinvaras and they felt great both standing and on the treadmill - so I bought the Kinvaras.

 

At some point I'm intending to go back to FootPro and test some of the newer Hoka models.

 

I usually have around 12 pairs of runners on rotation. Trail Runners, Racing flats, elastic laced ones for triathlon, 2 pairs at work, etc.

 

If I'm buying another pair of the same model I will simply look for the best price online, However if the model changes, or there is a new shoe I'm interested in I will go to an actual store, try and on and purchase them if they feel good.

 

I am picky about what running stores I go to. I want a specialist running store where the owner knows what he/she is talking about and stocks the more niche style of runners. Having an in-store treadmill and video analysis is a big plus

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willie    608

I am picky about what running stores I go to. I want a specialist running store where the owner knows what he/she is talking about and stocks the more niche style of runners. Having an in-store treadmill and video analysis is a big plus

I've "fit" over 3,000 people I reckon. I had some very good training through the Uni of Roehampton in the U.K. Going back to the states to do a further 2 weeks on running biomechanics where they have a reasonable emphasis on shoes just to make sure I can know as much as possible. The rest I think is natural ability.

 

As for the video analysis stuff, as you say it's great if folks know how to use it and are good at looking at you as a whole, but a lot merely look at your feet. I've found that the 7 stores I been into with this, there's only 2 sales reps that were good at this process.

 

I had one very prominent store in NSW reccomend an adrenaline to me when I turned up wearing a Nike Terra Kiger 2 that I'd told the person I'd just run a 100km ultra in. Needless to say, I was dumbfounded.

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Bored@work    1,439

As mentioned I have just started running in the Hoka Bondi purchased from Willie.

 

I have previously been running in on clouds. At this stage I'm happy with them as training shoe but I won't be racing in them.

 

They are comfy & I seem to pull up better after long runs. They just feel big & slow on my feet, I'm keen to try a "smaller" shoe in their range.

 

Or try something else before my next race. TBH I'll prob try something based on Willie's recommendation.

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zed    752

As mentioned I have just started running in the Hoka Bondi purchased from Willie.

 

I have previously been running in on clouds. At this stage I'm happy with them as training shoe but I won't be racing in them.

 

They are comfy & I seem to pull up better after long runs. They just feel big & slow on my feet, I'm keen to try a "smaller" shoe in their range.

 

Or try something else before my next race. TBH I'll prob try something based on Willie's recommendation.

 

 

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Keen to try a diet-Hoka. Lighter with not such a massive sole.

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CEM    189

I got a pair of Clifton 3 and really wanted to like them, but concluded that they just don't suit my foot and running biomechanics. Doesn't mean they aren't good shoes for some people. My lesson with those - and some other makes and models - is to stick with what is comfortable and works, not necessarily what is popular. For me that is Nike shoes...all of them and especially Pegasus.

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Toolish    159

I have been keen to try them but honestly would have no idea what model to go for.

 

I have issues with my left foot going numb when running no matter what shoe I wear so hoping the extra cushioning may help that.

 

The problem is locally there is no where to try them on and give it a whirl, might just have to pony up the cash on line and see how i go!

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zed    752

I have been keen to try them but honestly would have no idea what model to go for.

 

I have issues with my left foot going numb when running no matter what shoe I wear so hoping the extra cushioning may help that.

 

The problem is locally there is no where to try them on and give it a whirl, might just have to pony up the cash on line and see how i go!

 

You need to try em on mate. They are a whacky fit. I had to go a whole size up, usually 9s, had to go 10s as the Stinsons are very narrow. Even the 10s feel narrow and a bit tight, I have to have the laces looseish.

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hey_burgs    299

I tried em.

Liked em.

But they didn't have the support I needed and they broke me eventually.

If there is a newer model with a support arch, I could try again, mainly because I've been forced back to Asics.

so, if there is now a Hoka with something like a GT2000 type support, let me know.

 

The new Arahi would be your entry back into Hoka.

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willie    608

Or try something else before my next race. TBH I'll prob try something based on Willie's recommendation.

 

Happy to sort you out when you get to that point. I reckon you'd want to try the Tracer. I think it makes me run weird (but hey, my favorite shoe is the T3-4-5-6-7 from Brooks)

 

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Keen to try a diet-Hoka. Lighter with not such a massive sole.

 

Same as above, if/when I get Hoka's I'll make sure I sort you out ;)

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hey_burgs    299

 

You need to try em on mate. They are a whacky fit. I had to go a whole size up, usually 9s, had to go 10s as the Stinsons are very narrow. Even the 10s feel narrow and a bit tight, I have to have the laces looseish.

 

A couple of the shoes come in a 'wide' fit now, the Bondi and Arahi. I would expect that more models in wide will follow.

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hey_burgs    299

 

 

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Keen to try a diet-Hoka. Lighter with not such a massive sole.

 

Clifton and Clayton will be the best bet, or Tracer if you want full race spec from 5km to half-mara.

 

I race in the Tracer (up to half distance) and the Clayton (full distance) if anyone is interested. Most of the the other Hoka pros do as well; Heather Jackson (3rd in Kona) races in Clayton, Cyril Viennot in the Tracer, Tim O'Donnell in the Tracer, a bunch of ITU athletes like Katie Zafares & Ben Kanute (US Olympians) race in the Tracer, Luke McKenzie in the Tracer...

 

Hoka is a very progressive brand. Innovating with each new shoe that comes out, and actually listening to the market and hearing what people are saying what they need to do to improve or alter the fit or performance. It's not going to be for everyone, but the shoe counts that came in last year suggest that people are loving them in the tri-world.

 

http://running.competitor.com/2016/10/news/2016-ironman-triathlon-world-championships-running-shoe-count_157090

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MissJess    276

Voted - I wear mine for road or firetrail running only. I moved to them after hearing about them from others with knee/hip/ankle injuries, at the time I was massively overweight (now I am just overweight). It's saved my ankles as well as helping me complete my first 2 road half marathons.

 

For anything more technical I am in a pair of Asics Venture 5's, I saw some folks trying to negotiate knapsack lap race in hokas....

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hey_burgs    299

I have been keen to try them but honestly would have no idea what model to go for.

 

I have issues with my left foot going numb when running no matter what shoe I wear so hoping the extra cushioning may help that.

 

 

I would suggest that a Clifton is a safe bet. If you have success in that, then you'll have a better idea to either stick with go, go to a more comfort focussed shoe like the Bondi, Arahi, Vanquish etc, or dial it down a notch to a Clayton or Tracer.

 

With regards to numb feet, try to lace your shoes so that you skip the middle one or two lace holes over the tongue. Sometime if laces are too tight over the cuneiforms it can quite easily cut blood supply to the foot.

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hey_burgs    299

Voted - I wear mine for road or firetrail running only. I moved to them after hearing about them from others with knee/hip/ankle injuries, at the time I was massively overweight (now I am just overweight). It's saved my ankles as well as helping me complete my first 2 road half marathons.

 

For anything more technical I am in a pair of Asics Venture 5's, I saw some folks trying to negotiate knapsack lap race in hokas....

 

For technical trail running, the Speed Instinct is a massive win. I just looked up Venture 5's, they look roughly like the equivalent of the Challenger, which is Hokas best selling trail shoe (also amazing). I can see any advantages of the Venture 5 over either the Speed Instinct or Challenger, but each to their own.

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zed    752

 

Clifton and Clayton will be the best bet, or Tracer if you want full race spec from 5km to half-mara.

 

I race in the Tracer (up to half distance) and the Clayton (full distance) if anyone is interested. Most of the the other Hoka pros do as well; Heather Jackson (3rd in Kona) races in Clayton, Cyril Viennot in the Tracer, Tim O'Donnell in the Tracer, a bunch of ITU athletes like Katie Zafares & Ben Kanute (US Olympians) race in the Tracer, Luke McKenzie in the Tracer...

 

Hoka is a very progressive brand. Innovating with each new shoe that comes out, and actually listening to the market and hearing what people are saying what they need to do to improve or alter the fit or performance. It's not going to be for everyone, but the shoe counts that came in last year suggest that people are loving them in the tri-world.

 

http://running.competitor.com/2016/10/news/2016-ironman-triathlon-world-championships-running-shoe-count_157090

 

 

Cool thanks Burgs.

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Fitness Buddy    602

I found them good when you are in a moon boot for the other foot.

A member here sent me an old pair as I thought they would even me up while wearing the boot. Helped a lot with potential back issues etc.

Only issues had doing this was the big red line it would put on top of my foot on the medial side and these were a size up from normal shoes.

Tried running in them once out of boot just didnt feel right at this stage for me.

Did try the Claytons last year just too narrow.

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Ironnerd    330

Road runs > 10 km and all trail running I do now in Hoka's. I find that I am not as sore after a long run when wearing Hokas. I find the extra cushioning great when trail running, you do not feel the rocks under your feet.

 

I still do runs <10km in standard NB running shoes. I think that by mixing it up between shoes I can reduce over use injuries as the different types of shoes cause you to change form and the way your foot lands. In normal shoes I am more of a heel lander, in Hoka's more mid foot lander. The wear patterns on my NB and Hokas are very different.

 

Since changing to Hoka's my PF has not reoccurred. Late last year I stopped running in Hoka's and my PF came back. I have switched back to Hoka's.

 

My biggest gripe with Hoka's is that they wear out much quicker than other shoes, particularly trail running. I am going to try other Hoka models and other similar shoes in different brands to see if they last longer.

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Mjainoz    1,034

Oh okay - free speed is always good.

 

I haven't done a short tri where that would make a difference though.

 

Maybe something to think about if I do a sort tri again

IMO. fast vs slow shoe. Couple of secs a k I think. Depends on how bad your form is. two sides to that. If they hold you up too much it takes to long to go through the gait cycle. Collapse too much and you loose time there. Optimal shoe depends on you and how fast you are running.

Weight is an issue. And then there is the phycological aspect.

Buy some. Have fun.

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Fitness Buddy    602

Road runs > 10 km and all trail running I do now in Hoka's. I find that I am not as sore after a long run when wearing Hokas. I find the extra cushioning great when trail running, you do not feel the rocks under your feet.

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I still do runs <10km in standard NB running shoes. I think that by mixing it up between shoes I can reduce over use injuries as the different types of shoes cause you to change form and the way your foot lands. In normal shoes I am more of a heel lander, in Hoka's more mid foot lander. The wear patterns on my NB and Hokas are very different.

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Since changing to Hoka's my PF has not reoccurred. Â Late last year I stopped running in Hoka's and my PF came back. I have switched back to Hoka's.

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My biggest gripe with Hoka's is that they wear out much quicker than other shoes, particularly trail running. I am going to try other Hoka models and other similar shoes in different brands to see if they last longer.

 

If the PF came back you never addressed the issue. My thoughts would be Rehab while you are running in the Hokas.

Isotonic single calf raises on edge off step weighted 3 secs up 3 secs down with your feet on towel trying to grab towel. 3 sets of 8 each daily for a few weeks would help greatly

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Turtle    65

I don't wear Hokas because my podiatrist advised me against them. I doubt from an anti-Hoka point of view, rather probably my feet pov. I've pretty much worn Brookes or Mizunos the last few years. He suggested this time for me to go for Mizuno Enigmas. So far so good. I have incredibly flexible (aka unstable) ankles with only 1 ligament really working in one.

 

Great work Willie on doing the research etc. I wish all shoe fitters were 1/2 as knowledgeable. Good luck with the shop.

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Paretojack    39

I've looked but not tried Hokas particularly for the reduced DOMS that they are supposed to help with. I'm a slow and heavy runner and have been in Adrenelines last 8 years or so. Have avoided any significant injuries so I'm sticking with what works for the present.

 

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Turts    1,938

I have been keen to try them but honestly would have no idea what model to go for.

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I have issues with my left foot going numb when running no matter what shoe I wear so hoping the extra cushioning may help that.

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The problem is locally there is no where to try them on and give it a whirl, might just have to pony up the cash on line and see how i go!

What size are ya? If the same as me you could give mine a whirl. I have a few different ones

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bRace    36

I've always run in Asics (GT2000 for training, DS Trainers for racing) and they have served me well. I know there are equivalent shoes in other brands, but these work for me and I haven't been bothered changing so far. I've been tempted (and still am) to try Hoka's due to good reports I've heard, but have been put off due to price, not knowing which model to go for, and that they just look a bit goofy (maybe new models are looking better?).

Anyway, my newest DS Trainers have an issue where they are rubbing in a weird spot and I can't run more than a couple of km's in races (no socks) without getting blisters (never had this before), so I'm thinking about changing. So, for those with Hoka + Asics knowledge, which models should I be looking at to replace my Asics?

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Turts    1,938

I love my Valours, as a medium, cushy but fast (for me) shoe.

 

The stinsons are good for long slow runs but a bit tiring on the feet if theres a lot of walking involved (like 100km events) as the sole is thick and takes some bending.

 

The valours are also a soft and forgiving but supportive upper.

 

Challengers are softer with a pissweak upper for a trail shoe.

 

I love the drop really. They are really midway between a traditional 12-15mm or the altra zero drop. Which for me really works.

 

Old rapanuis are stupidly narrow. So iv got 2 pairs up for grabs. Size US mens 9.5 if you're keen to try em.

 

I get loads of kms out of mine. Almost 1000kms on stinson ATR s and Valours, even tho the Valours are a road shoe and i normally run trails

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Shuffla    221

I've worn Hoka pretty much since they came out. I was running ultras at the time and hated hard rock plates in the sole of most trail shoes. Decided that trail shoes are rarely needed so went to more cushioning.

 

Struggled with lack of feel for the road but the new Ahari are better. Feel a bit speedier in them compared to the old Constant.

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