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DRIVER FILMS FATAL HEADON IN W.A

 

http://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/driver-films-fatal-head-on-collision/news-story/af023c7f10aa78ce511697bea1d87d50

 

Poor woman. See that could be anyone of us. Just driving along and some nut drives on the wrong side of the road. Clearly deliberate.

Bet he won't be charged with murder if he survives.

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Should be charged with murder, but yeah, can't see that sticking.

 

Great that the driver & passenger from the car behind ran straight over to help, but did they have to carry the camera & film all of that too?

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Should be charged with murder, but yeah, can't see that sticking.

 

Great that the driver & passenger from the car behind ran straight over to help, but did they have to carry the camera & film all of that too?

The investigators will find the footage pretty valuable actually

 

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Should be charged with murder, but yeah, can't see that sticking.

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Great that the driver & passenger from the car behind ran straight over to help, but did they have to carry the camera & film all of that too?

Initially thought the same. Then I read through the comments below the story. David_kitson's reply summed it up. Basically said it was the only/best thing to do.

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Pretty unbelievable, imagine if it had been a group bike ride... You'd have to think ice or similar.

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apparently he was laughing as he was driving like an idiot. the law should be changed as he was using his vehicle as a weapon, no different to using a gun.

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Moama tragedy

 

http://www.news.com.au/national/moama-drowning-million-dollar-question-is-why/news-story/11f9aaad8d4d6c3f1682c1ace5859a37

 

Awful on many levels.

Woman is released from prison, abducted her kids from the grandparents. Drowns them killing the 5year old. The 9year old got away but was attacked by some random dog on the river bank.

The deadbeat loser dad who left before the 5 year old was born suddenly has to be there so starts a gofundme page to rob sympathy coin from the public.

We need capital punishment.

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Agree just terrible. Those poor kids & how will that 9yr old ever get his around whats happened ? The grandparents ... poor things, so sad

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This dude rules! Can't wait to hear what he thinks of trying it in summer, at, say, an Aussie beach!

 

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The one thing out of that RS, is the dog. It's now been determined that the dog was trying to drag the kid out of the water, not attack him.

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Karma bus was in town today.

 

Go back 10+ years and I was working in a large well known Australian company at the time. My supervisor was meant to be my back up, fondly remember when I had a week of leave coming up she was "too busy", saw her booking an overseas holiday at her desk instead in the time we had allotted for us to do a handover. Needless to say I came back to a real mess

 

Found out she has been jailed today for 17 months non-parole (max 33 months) for ripping her last employer off by $350K to fund purchase of a new car and lots of overseas holidays so her precious kiddies "didn't miss out". Also turns out not to be the first time she was caught by a previous employer, but the first time she actually got charged.

 

If you see anyone ripping a business off as an employee, please push to have them charged. Just about every case that goes with big money always has a history of smaller offences in the past let go.

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Made me happy to be Australian yesterday (despite being half a world away), celebrating and remembering everything our forefathers fought for....

And then I read this ... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/yassmin-abdelmagied-triggers-anger-with-anzac-day-facebook-post/news-story/40123cfe7b0d7fb93ed7536aaf9f7824

Okay, everyone has a right to expression of free speech (something our forefathers fought for), but seriously .... how did it have to be "brought to her attention"? What an attention-seeking tool. Same for that idiot Clementine Ford - if you have nothing to say, say nothing!

Lest we forget the sacrifice of those who have died in wars to protect our way of life!

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As ill-advised and ill-timed as this woman's comments are they do highlight the freedom of speech and democracy that our services have fought to uphold. Don't have to agree but fight for the right sort of stuff. There is someone who pops up and uses Anzac day every year to publicise their seemingly irrelevant line of thought or protest. But to say that freedom of speech only applies to those you agree with is a bit hypocritical. 

There are opportunistic shit-stirrers from all walks of politics and the media who aren't afraid to use any opportunity to generate some publicity and try and make a point.This is their livelihood. Hanson gets no votes and no funding if she doesn't whip up some xenophobia and this presenter gets invited back on Q and A by sticking her head up and disrespecting Anzac Day. it's a game to them. I try and ignore them now and not get too worked up. I even look forward to reading Ford's columns sometimes now as they make me think a little from another point of view.

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58 minutes ago, Parkside said:

But to say that freedom of speech only applies to those you agree with is a bit hypocritical.

Yet we see it time and again when those with unpopular right wing views are shut down.

I'm a staunch supporter of ANZAC day, my daughter has never missed a dawn service and she now marches with my father, but I think the reaction to this has been a little precious.  It was a bloody Facebook post for crying out loud.  I'm still trying to figure out who it was particularly offensive to?  Taking the focus of ANZAC day away from our service men and women and putting it on to another unrelated topic?  Well the AFL does that every year as do countless commercial organisations and many in a less crass and attention seeking manner than this.  The RSL relies on it to have money to embezzle.

People just need to calm the f*ck down and not get so bloody excited about the opportunity to get upset.  If there's one thing that ANZAC day should teach us it's a bit of perspective.

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Like your response and well played moderator1 for the move.  I agree, zealots at either end are quick to break into outrage at an opinion the polar opposite of their own. I am guilty at times although wouldn't class myself a zealot.

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5 hours ago, Parkside said:

But to say that freedom of speech only applies to those you agree with is a bit hypocritical. 

Not the point I was trying to make, but I agree with your stance.... and your ability to take a stance.

The point I was trying to make is that ANZAC Day should be about the diggers and families of those who fought in all wars. It has nothing to do with refugees, Manus Island, Palestine (apart from the battles fought there during the world wars), the AFL or anyone seeking to make a profit from a commercial venture attached to the name ANZAC. The point is that there are another 364 days for shameless self-aggrandisement, they should use any one of those days. 

ANZAC Day should be a day of quiet contemplation and respect for those who gave us these freedoms. 

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4 hours ago, Rimmer said:

The point I was trying to make is that ANZAC Day should be about the diggers and families of those who fought in all wars. It has nothing to do with refugees, Manus Island, Palestine (apart from the battles fought there during the world wars), the AFL or anyone seeking to make a profit from a commercial venture attached to the name ANZAC. The point is that there are another 364 days for shameless self-aggrandisement, they should use any one of those days. 

ANZAC Day should be a day of quiet contemplation and respect for those who gave us these freedoms. 

I have no argument with any of what you say. But like the indigenous speaking out on Australia Day, this woman obviously knew what she was doing and what publicity she would get, despite it having next to no relevance to the day (in contrast with Invasion/Australia Day issues).

The bolded bit I especially agree with. Which makes me uncomfortable when I see people complaining about disrespect if a business opens on Anzac Day, while opportunistic pubs fence off their car parks and basically allow hordes of 20-somethings drink until they are paralytic and play two-up. I drove past 2 venues at 5pm on Tuesday to watch absolutely blind young men and women behaving antisocially as they spilled out. Lest they remember?

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4 minutes ago, Parkside said:

........... But like the indigenous speaking out on Australia Day, this woman obviously knew what she was doing and what publicity she would get, despite it having next to no relevance to the day (in contrast with Invasion/Australia Day issues).

Exactly, she couldn't give a stuff about it, from the timing and content of her post. Her apology says nothing of contrition and the publicity gathers pace......

Perhaps she should sit down and read all 12 volumes of C.E.W. Bean's Official History of Australia in the War of 1914–1918, as I did when I was about her age to appreciate what we have, why we have it and what brought it about. Just a thought....

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Riiiiight. So we're whinging about an ethnic woman of non-Christian heritage making a political point at a time and place of her choosing. Sooooo, what did our war veterans fight for again? Was it freedom? We should be celebrating the success of this 'liberation' and yet all the 'true-blue' Aussies are rallying to ruin her career and deport her for simply having a different point of view on ANZAC Day. Probably the same Aussies that 'tut-tut' when the media reports on human rights abuses in foreign countries. Baffling.

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2 hours ago, The Customer said:

Riiiiight. So we're whinging about an ethnic woman of non-Christian heritage making a political point at a time and place of her choosing. Sooooo, what did our war veterans fight for again? Was it freedom? We should be celebrating the success of this 'liberation' and yet all the 'true-blue' Aussies are rallying to ruin her career and deport her for simply having a different point of view on ANZAC Day. Probably the same Aussies that 'tut-tut' when the media reports on human rights abuses in foreign countries. Baffling.

No, not at all. Race, religion and ethnic background was never part of my argument. Am not trying to ruin her career either. I am not a racist, nor a redneck, a hillbilly or a bogan***; in fact, I think I am quite worldly. 

I simply make the comment that she should respect people (of all backgrounds) who have given a sacrifice (and continue to do so) so that she can make whatever comments she wanted on any day other than ANZAC Day. I feel the same way about: -

  • people getting mindlessly drunk on ANZAC Day (good point from earlier);
  • shops opening;
  • the AFL cashing in on a tradition started in the mid-90s by calling it a "tradition" in its second year; 
  • etc etc.

I am also against forcing people to remember the fallen and those who serve. But, I think a little perspective about where she came from and what she now enjoys because of the ANZACs wouldn't hurt. ANZAC Day had nothing to do with her post and the topic of her post nothing to do with ANZAC Day.

Think I am done on the topic, 

Cam

*** I used to go to Bathurst and sink the odd tinnie, but that was for work!

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You know, I didn't know what she'd said or done until yesterday morning.  I heard all the news about it and the outrage, but didn't know exactly what she'd done.  In the end, I think 'technically' there's nothing wrong or inflammatory or anything with what she said.

The only issue I have with it is the timing.  I agree she shouldn't have done this on Anzac day.  Do it the day after, the day before.  I agree with what she had to say, but she should have known she'd have been on a hiding to nowhere saying it, in that way, on Anzac Day.   

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I agree Goughy, especially when considering her role on the Federal ANZAC Centenary Commeration youth working group for which she was meant to be bringing inclusion.  The excuse of she didn't recognise the signifigance of it shows her inadequacies in that role, and I would have to question all of her other roles being funded by the public purse.

It also isn't great for the ABC after their controversy around attempting to sack a newsreader for missing a cue less than a fortnight before to then turn around and say this is fine - double standards anyone?

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4 hours ago, goughy said:

You know, I didn't know what she'd said or done until yesterday morning.  I heard all the news about it and the outrage, but didn't know exactly what she'd done.  In the end, I think 'technically' there's nothing wrong or inflammatory or anything with what she said.

The only issue I have with it is the timing.  I agree she shouldn't have done this on Anzac day.  Do it the day after, the day before.  I agree with what she had to say, but she should have known she'd have been on a hiding to nowhere saying it, in that way, on Anzac Day.   

I think what she said was an ill-advised comment that was poorly timed.

Having said that, I find it bizarre that the people who have come out most strongly against her (ie Daily Tele, Alan Jones and the like) where the ones only 2 weeks earlier arguing about how Section 18C was holding back people's ability to have freedom of speech. I thought the argument a month ago was that people should be allowed to have freedom of expression, even if that means you insult someone? Or am I missing something?!?

You can't have it both ways can you? You want freedom of speech if it means insulting indigenous people but not if its a muslim person insulting ANZAC day?

Again, having said THAT, the right wing media have just as much right to call her out for saying something they think is stupid. People are free to say stupid stuff, and other people are free to call them out and say its stupid.....

I find the whole argument that she should be sacked a bit silly, given that the people calling for her resignation/termination are those that, only a month earlier, where going on and on about how we should have freedom of expression, even if that means offending people ..... (or does the Daily Tele now want to censor people on certain days, ie ANZAC day)??

To me, overall, it was a non-issue.  I dismissed her tweet/post and went about my business on ANZAC day, attending the dawn service (as I always do) and spending time with family.  I dismissed her nonsense just like I dismiss the nonsense of Andrew Bolt on a daily basis ....

 

 

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50 minutes ago, TryTriB4Forty said:

I think what she said was an ill-advised comment that was poorly timed.

Having said that, I find it bizarre that the people who have come out most strongly against her (ie Daily Tele, Alan Jones and the like) where the ones only 2 weeks earlier arguing about how Section 18C was holding back people's ability to have freedom of speech. I thought the argument a month ago was that people should be allowed to have freedom of expression, even if that means you insult someone? Or am I missing something?!?

You can't have it both ways can you? You want freedom of speech if it means insulting indigenous people but not if its a muslim person insulting ANZAC day?

Again, having said THAT, the right wing media have just as much right to call her out for saying something they think is stupid. People are free to say stupid stuff, and other people are free to call them out and say its stupid.....

I find the whole argument that she should be sacked a bit silly, given that the people calling for her resignation/termination are those that, only a month earlier, where going on and on about how we should have freedom of expression, even if that means offending people ..... (or does the Daily Tele now want to censor people on certain days, ie ANZAC day)??

To me, overall, it was a non-issue.  I dismissed her tweet/post and went about my business on ANZAC day, attending the dawn service (as I always do) and spending time with family.  I dismissed her nonsense just like I dismiss the nonsense of Andrew Bolt on a daily basis ....

 

The difference is that nobody is calling on what she said to be made unlawful, which is what 18c does

She has made a stupid comment as she should be entitled to do, and she is being criticised for it as everyone else should be entitled to do

That's how free speech is supposed to work.  If you want to say stupid shit, the court of public opinion will hold you accountable for it

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