Media coverage of women's sport

[roxii 6,472]

I think like almost all sports, a good game is a good game and a boring game is a boring game, regardless of which sex is playing.

 

Games like AFL, Rugby (both types) have been dulled by rule changes, soccer, well its soccer , even some of the T20 games designed to be exciting have needed streakers to liven them up.

 

Netball played at the top level is one of the quickest and most skillful games going around, its great to watch, not to mention the fact that you dont have to worry about them disgracing themselves every weekend on the piss.

[trinube 1,824]

By your argument, a 400m runner should earn more than 100m runner.

 

Not really, it's more like a 400m runner would only need to run 300m instead of 400m.

[downesy68 1,101]

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Not really, it's more like a 400m runner would only need to run 300m instead of 400m.

Beat me to it.

 

I think the women tennis players should demand that they play best of 5. Surely Serena Williams finds it demeaning and patronising to only have to play best of 3?

[Turts 3,041]

I don't know the actual figures, but if the money coming in to the sport in advertising and TV rights is the same for the women, then they should earn the same as the men.

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By your argument, a 400m runner should earn more than 100m runner.

Marathoners would be squillionaires!

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

Seriously, whilst I could watch a lot of them all day, I couldn't put up with that grunting for an extra 2 sets.

[downesy68 1,101]

I never said I'd watch it!

[The Customer 1,996]

The irony is that King won the Battle of the Sexes match against Bobby Riggs because she wore him down over a long match. That was her strategy because she knew she had better endurance.

[Bored@work 3,674]

The irony is that King won the Battle of the Sexes match against Bobby Riggs because she wore him down over a long match. That was her strategy because she knew she had better endurance.

Were they married

[BarryBevan 1,016]

Best bet for womens sport is to seek opportunities for sports that they excel at instead of having mens sports subsidise covearage of sports that would otherwise not be televised, by example cricket.

 

Womens athletics, swimming, triathlon, volleyball all stand on their own merit.

[goughy 3,629]

You forgot netball!

 

I get where you're coming from. Thing is, lots of women enjoy watching the mens sports, and enjoy playing them too! Hence if it's successful for men it must surely be successful if women play it too!

[BarryBevan 1,016]

You forgot netball!

 

I get where you're coming from. Thing is, lots of women enjoy watching the mens sports, and enjoy playing them too! Hence if it's successful for men it must surely be successful if women play it too!

Don't get netball though it is still better than AFL or Union regardless of gender

[BarryBevan 1,016]

Women's beach volleyball subsidises mens

[Ruley 839]

Best bet for womens sport is to seek opportunities for sports that they excel at instead of having mens sports subsidise covearage of sports that would otherwise not be televised, by example cricket.

 

Womens athletics, swimming, triathlon, volleyball all stand on their own merit.

This is an interesting one.

with these and adding Netball and Womens surfing perhaps you may be on the money here and that these may go further.

 

I wonder about some of the other factors with the traditional male sports having women's leagues including the appeal of these to other women even. Do they for a long time have the issue that many ladies cannot relate to the athletes and have never played these sports themselves even at a recreational level?(not many of us play any of the footy codes now but most did as a kid with the ones we watch on the box come footy sason).

the sexual identity/prefferences associated with many of the womens team sports that are the traditional male ones? (really shouldnt be an issue in this day and age but still fairly common to hear some rather harsh critiques of the make up of some of these teams)-

credibility for many of these sports that is on par with race walking?

 

I liked the women's rugby 7's at the olympics, pitty that isnt on TV more often with some of the big tournaments.

 

Will be interesting to see how this goes 3-5 years down the track.

 

[Niseko 786]

As with everything in the regressive left/PC era we live in, the most (only) important factor is how a minority group is treated.

 

They'll wheel out a 3 legged midget from Bhutan to sing the national anthem at a Wallabies match, just to ensure inclusiveness for all Buthanese 3 legged dwarves.

 

Shit like this is why Trump is in the Whitehouse and Britain is out of Europe.

 

It's got to stop.

Edited January 21, 2017 by Niseko

[pieman 1,295]

As with everything in the regressive left/PC era we live in, the most (only) important factor is how a minority group is treated.

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They'll wheel out a 3 legged midget from Bhutan to sing the national anthem at a Wallabies match, just to ensure inclusiveness for all Buthanese 3 legged dwarves.

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Shit like this is why Trump is in the Whitehouse and Britain is out of Europe.Â

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It's got to stop.

Maybe get some 3 legged midgets playing for the Wallabies as it can only improve their current performances.?

[The Customer 1,996]

[AA7 1,735]

Rather than report on the match, let's comment on how they wore the same outfit

 

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/daria-gavrilova-and-timea-bacsinszky-wear-exactly-the-same-clothing-at-australian-open/news-story/8626c0651c584c9a9a735665afc0b4a6

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

Rather than report on the match, let's comment on how they wore the same outfit

 

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/daria-gavrilova-and-timea-bacsinszky-wear-exactly-the-same-clothing-at-australian-open/news-story/8626c0651c584c9a9a735665afc0b4a6

Actually you'll find they had 2 other, longer, reports that focused on the match. This was just a side piece.

[AA7 1,735]

Actually you'll find they had 2 other, longer, reports that focused on the match. This was just a side piece.

 

This was the main story they had up first and the one that was being posted on twitter and FB by the 'news' agencies.

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

They have the latest story up first normally, which means the 2 stories about the actual match and her performance were printed prior to this piece.

 

As for twitter & FB, well, they specialise in fashion pieces.

[ghettodeluxe 13]

I don't know the actual figures, but if the money coming in to the sport in advertising and TV rights is the same for the women, then they should earn the same as the men.

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By your argument, a 400m runner should earn more than 100m runner.

Not quite. They both earn the same title of Australian open champion

[sme1414 222]

Did anyone see Serena Williams blow up at that reporter the other day for daring to say she had a scrappy win. Can't imagine any of the top men behaving like that.

 

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[BogFrog 605]

Did anyone see Serena Williams blow up at that reporter the other day for daring to say she had a scrappy win. Can't imagine any of the top men behaving like that.

 

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Really? We're going there are we? Want to compare the bahavior of female athletes to male athletes?

Just sticking with tennis, 2 names, Tomic, Kyrgios...

[sme1414 222]

Notice that I said top men. And how much shit do we give any other athletes when they carry on with their ego out of control

 

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[AA7 1,735]

Notice that I said top men. And how much shit do we give any other athletes when they carry on with their ego out of control

 

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Andy Murray is a bit of a sook.

[downesy68 1,101]

I remember a very funny Bob Franklin skit from a few years ago talking about precious tennis players. He talked about them coming to Australia and complaining about the heat. He said for the amount they get paid they should play until one of them dies

[sme1414 222]

 

Andy Murray is a bit of a sook.

He is but he doesn't demand journalists apologize for saying he had a scrappy win. Serena was made to work hard by a talented opponent and refused to admit she could be anything other than sublime. The thing is that nobody called her on it. When the vast majority of male athletes let their egos get out of control or otherwise behave poorly we all laugh at them or bag them out and rightly so. Serena likes to compare hereself to LeBron James. No way LeBron answers that question the same way

 

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[BogFrog 605]

Notice that I said top men. And how much shit do we give any other athletes when they carry on with their ego out of control

 

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Fair enough - Maybe I took you up wrong.

<climbsDownFromHighHorse>The thread started by complaining about too much coverage of women's sport, so I (mistakenly) took your comment as a complaint about how women behave, and not just one particular athlete</climbsDownFromHighHorse>

[sme1414 222]

 

Fair enough - Maybe I took you up wrong.

The thread started by complaining about too much coverage of women's sport, so I (mistakenly) took your comment as a complaint about how women behave, and not just one particular athlete

No problem. I actually have been a massive fan of the wbbl and it has been great for getting my youngest daughter to realise that cricket is a game for girls to and now we are going to the wbbl / bbl semi finals. I think channel 10 have done a great job of the coverage. I just didn't understand why when there was so much coverage of the women's tennis (as much as the mens it seemed ) why wasn't anyone commenting on Serena's poor behavior?

 

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[Turts 3,041]

Did anyone see Serena Williams blow up at that reporter the other day for daring to say she had a scrappy win. Can't imagine any of the top men behaving like that.

 

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We shouldnt put up with that shit no matter what gender. Kyrios, tomic, williams, anyone. Thats just rubbish any which way

[AA7 1,735]

They have the latest story up first normally, which means the 2 stories about the actual match and her performance were printed prior to this piece.

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As for twitter & FB, well, they specialise in fashion pieces.

Why is there a story at all about what they were wearing?

 

I've seen blokes wear the same kit, but it doesn't become one of the main stories.

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

AA7, it wasn't a sports report. It was just a side piece.

 

Like the one below on a guys outfit in the same tournament.

 

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/dan-evans-might-need-his-prizemoney-to-buy-some-new-gear/news-story/36a9cbdf67347e3a77125402d820bd34

[GSP 243]

Why is there a story at all about what they were wearing?

 

I've seen blokes wear the same kit, but it doesn't become one of the main stories.

 

AA7, I'm with you, it gets right on my quince how at Wimbledon everybody wears the same, when you are not concentrating for a while and look back up it's so confusing who to follow.

[Turts 3,041]

Why is there a story at all about what they were wearing?

I've seen blokes wear the same kit, but it doesn't become one of the main stories.

One had a visor (....cranky?) One had a headband. Easy!

[mhvh 165]

I want to see the best of the best of the best.

If they happen to have breasts so be it.

Im the same but when does that happen? Netball. What else?

[GSP 243]

Im the same but when does that happen? Netball. What else?

 

Gymnastics, dancing, singing, Sync Swimming.

[mhvh 165]

True. Very interesting sports

 

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[Esoteric 516]

As with everything in the regressive left/PC era we live in, the most (only) important factor is how a minority group is treated.

Â

They'll wheel out a 3 legged midget from Bhutan to sing the national anthem at a Wallabies match, just to ensure inclusiveness for all Buthanese 3 legged dwarves.

Â

Shit like this is why Trump is in the Whitehouse and Britain is out of Europe.Â

Â

It's got to stop.

Never thought of women as a minority group. Should live here mate, bloody heaps of them!

[Niseko 786]

Never thought of women as a minority group. Should live here mate, bloody heaps of them!

Didn't realize Australia had a higher percentage of women than elsewhere. Even the Middle East is about 50/50 despite not seeing any in public and the rape victims who have been stoned to death.

 

I was almost going to clarify in my comment that when I refer to women as minotities it is in the context of numbers that play a certain sport, like cricket Aussie rules etc.

 

But then I though, no that is bloody obvious, only an idiot couldn't understand the context of women being a minoirty

 

But I guess someone managed to.

 

You should live over here, there's bloody heaps of people with the ability to comprehend principles without needing them explained completely to them.

Edited January 25, 2017 by Niseko

[Esoteric 516]

Didn't realize Australia had a higher percentage of women than elsewhere. Even the Middle East is about 50/50 despite not seeing any in public and the rape victims who have been stoned to death.

 

I was almost going to clarify in my comment that when I refer to women as minotities it is in the context of numbers that play a certain sport, like cricket Aussie rules etc.

 

But then I though, no that is bloody obvious, only an idiot couldn't understand the context of women being a minoirty

 

But I guess someone managed to.

 

You should live over here, there's bloody heaps of people with the ability to comprehend principles without needing them explained completely to them.

Why don't you just write one post about minorities, Muslims, and every other group of people that you hate and look down on so it can be added as a sticky thread.

 

Would save you the time of getting upset and angry all the time Mr. Grumpy pants.

 

Think you need to lighten up a bit pal, it was a joke. We have lots of jokes in Australia and I didn't think I'd have to explain that to anyone.. but there's always one ð

[BarryBevan 1,016]

As with everything in the regressive left/PC era we live in, the most (only) important factor is how a minority group is treated.

 

They'll wheel out a 3 legged midget from Bhutan to sing the national anthem at a Wallabies match, just to ensure inclusiveness for all Buthanese 3 legged dwarves.

 

Shit like this is why Trump is in the Whitehouse and Britain is out of Europe.

 

It's got to stop.

 

media coverage is directly proportional to the viewers who will watch and the revenue broadcasters can obtain. It is not a women's verse mens sports it is about the quality and marketability of the product. Increase quality and the viewers will increase

[tortoise 869]

11.83M male

11.93M female

 

Australian Population Stats, 2115 from ABS website.

 

From UN statistics, world ratio of males per 100 females is 101.7. Australia has 98.98, so yes Australia does have a higher percentage of women that the world average.

Edited January 26, 2017 by tortoise

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

 

media coverage is directly proportional to the viewers who will watch and the revenue broadcasters can obtain. It is not a women's verse mens sports it is about the quality and marketability of the product. Increase quality and the viewers will increase

Exactly.

[Wronggenes 230]

Just do a deal with the bookmakers to bet on whatever aspect you want on the game and then get them to pay the fta networks to televise it,

[The Customer 1,996]

Increase quality and the viewers will increase

 

Increase viewers and quality will increase.

 

Regardless, the quality is there in all sports and both genders but who would know unless you can see it.

 

I find figure skating far more entertaining to watch than cricket or footy. Skill level is extraordinary, as are the stuff-ups, but we're stuck with watching boring old mainstream sports.

Edited January 26, 2017 by The Customer

[BarryBevan 1,016]

 

Increase viewers and quality will increase.

 

Regardless, the quality is there in all sports and both genders but who would know unless you can see it.

 

I find figure skating far more entertaining to watch than cricket or footy. Skill level is extraordinary, as are the stuff-ups, but we're stuck with watching boring old mainstream sports.

for you not for the majority of the population, the market does not agree that quality is equal between the genders.

 

Skewed by the fact that historically sport has been dominated by men and women denied entry and barriers put in place. Increase participation rates for many years, may see that change. Though netball is a dominant women's sport and it will never ever compete with the NBA.

 

Men are also an issue for women's sport, most appealing women's sport for men are, tennis, beach volleyball, athletics, ice skating.

 

Each of these to an extent reflects an emphasis on the female form, where neandtheral mens interest is poportional to the skimpy outfit and sex appeal of the participant. I have to admit to being an avid watcher of women's ice skating as a teenager, mainly to watch Katrian Witt, Tennis Steffi Graf and I even liked ladies surf life saving and swimming. But you can see an emergent theme I was in teens though.

 

It is going to be hard to get coverage when men dominate the media with blokey beery chat shows about sports dominate. Good quote here:

 

 “Mainstream sports media outlets are essentially ‘mediated man-caves

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-dont-people-watch-womens-sports/

 

We and when I see we, men and I include me, though I have moved on from the late 80's

Edited January 26, 2017 by BarryBevan

[Moshy 63]

With the internet & the many avenues that it offers to market a product, surely mainstream media is not the only gig in town these days.

Edited January 27, 2017 by \m/ Moshboy \m/

[Turtle 103]

 

media coverage is directly proportional to the viewers who will watch and the revenue broadcasters can obtain. It is not a women's verse mens sports it is about the quality and marketability of the product. Increase quality and the viewers will increase

 

 

This is where I disagree. The media dictate that we'll watch 7 matches of AFL in one weekend. We're not given a choice to watch gymnastics, skiing, 7 matches of netball or triathlon...

 

I bet if they provided a couple of hours coverage of KONA, they'd get a heap of viewers.

[Ex-Hasbeen 7,455]

 

 

This is where I disagree. The media dictate that we'll watch 7 matches of AFL in one weekend. We're not given a choice to watch gymnastics, skiing, 7 matches of netball or triathlon...

 

I bet if they provided a couple of hours coverage of KONA, they'd get a heap of viewers.

The media put on 7 matches of AFL rather than a couple hours of Kona because their advertisers will pay them more for the timeslots during AFL than during Kona. And no, you could pretty well guarantee that although a lot of us would watch it, the lowest rating of the 7 AFL matches would still kill a televised Kona audience.

Edited January 27, 2017 by Ex-Hasbeen

[Cottoneyes 1,284]

The media put on 7 matches of AFL rather than a couple hours of Kona because their advertisers will pay them more for the timeslots during AFL than during Kona. And no, you could pretty well guarantee that although a lot of us would watch it, the lowest rating of the 7 AFL matches would still kill a televised Kona audience.

 

I'd go as far to say the at ground attendance of some games will still beat a kona audience