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Another big event coming to the Sunshine Coast next July. First Velothon event in the Southern Hemisphere

 

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/breaking-coast-to-host-major-global-cycling-event/3118514/

 

http://velothonsunshinecoast.com/

 

One day and three day events - courses look great through the Hinterland and coastaline

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That Day 1 course map looks like it goes to Montville via Razorback Road rather than the steady gradient of the usual KOM route on Palmwoods - Montville Rd.. Razorback is the steepest gradient I have ever ridden and is going to take some serious victims if they are not prepared for it.

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It's an Ironman company so expect expensive entries, active fees and sub par service.

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It's an Ironman company so expect expensive entries, active fees and sub par service.

I was interested as i read the email until i realised it's an IM event. No thanks.

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It's an Ironman company so expect expensive entries, active fees and sub par service.

Whats the sub par service?

 

I've only ever experienced sub par service in non ironman events.

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Whilst I am no apologist for WTC, I am sure the triathlon world is a better place for their existence. If you took away every event they ran the triathlon scene globally would be a very quiet place.

 

And I am sure the cycling world welcomes their initiative in establishing this particular three day major cycling event. So don't bag them for taking the financial risk in putting on new events.

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I'll bag them all I want for the poor service I've received.

Take away all their crap events and other independent races would be in their place. Most probably better run at a cheaper price.

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Hadn't heard of velothons before. Just read a bit about them. Seems entry fees aren't that high - e.g Wales GBP 65, about the same as the more sportif like events Cycling Victoria Marysville and Mt Macedon rides.

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I'll bag them all I want for the poor service I've received.

Take away all their crap events and other independent races would be in their place. Most probably better run at a cheaper price.

 

Sounds like you have your head in a very dark place.

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I agree with RS, both Mooloolaba and Noosa were better before they became IM owned. What, someone's head has to be in a dark place to bag the IM brand?

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I agree with RS, both Mooloolaba and Noosa were better before they became IM owned.

Be interested in your reasons for this impression. Did my first Noosa Tri in 4years this year and didn't notice any difference in race delivery or personal experience of the event from previous years.

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I have only done one Noosa since it has been IM owned, so my opinion is mainly based on Mooloolaba. Don't get me wrong USM wasn't much better. I prefer races like Bribie Kingscliff and Byron. Find they make you feel much more welcome not just like it's a business and they just want your money. Maybe it's hard to do that on such a large scale, I don't know

 

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What's the bad service though that you get at other events?

 

I remember before I started tri my favourite runs were bridge to brisbane and city to surf. But the "real runners" were out in the burbs doing the small events cause "real runners" don't do those sort of events.

 

There's something about standing on the start line of a big event and the atmosphere around them that I love.

 

I can appreciate they aren't for everyone but the bad service is something you hear a bit of but I've never experienced.

 

So what do you get at small events that you don't get in the big ones.

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What's the bad service though that you get at other events?

I remember before I started tri my favourite runs were bridge to brisbane and city to surf. But the "real runners" were out in the burbs doing the small events cause "real runners" don't do those sort of events.

There's something about standing on the start line of a big event and the atmosphere around them that I love.

I can appreciate they aren't for everyone but the bad service is something you hear a bit of but I've never experienced.

So what do you get at small events that you don't get in the big ones.

Podium?

But seriously, I do both and love both types equally. Volunteers can make the event and I can't seem to tell the difference between small and large event volunteers. Portaloos can be a problem at small events :-) the courses of both vary in quality. My friends do both types and it's great hanging out with them. maybe the quality of the gear you get can be better but that's never dictated why I do the event.

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Podium?

But seriously, I do both and love both types equally. Volunteers can make the event and I can't seem to tell the difference between small and large event volunteers. Portaloos can be a problem at small events :-) the courses of both vary in quality. My friends do both types and it's great hanging out with them. maybe the quality of the gear you get can be better but that's never dictated why I do the event.

The only person I know who does the smaller events for a podium is hacq1

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So I'm a few reds in (so much for one small glass before dinner) and just saw an email from yesterday. There's a certain appeal to a three day event.

 

A bloke at work was talking about a while ago and I said he should give it a go and I'd do the one day with him. Then I looked up the details and saw the course profile. I told him he was dreaming the next day. But the little video ad that Sheenan has done has got me thinking about it. And not just the enticer one day - it's all or nothing.

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That Day 1 course map looks like it goes to Montville via Razorback Road rather than the steady gradient of the usual KOM route on Palmwoods - Montville Rd.. Razorback is the steepest gradient I have ever ridden and is going to take some serious victims if they are not prepared for it.

 

You live on the Sunshine Coast and think Razorback is steep!!

I think you need to get out more....

 

Duck over to Aherns Rd and do Postmans Track. Or Phillipps Rd off Dulong, or Obi Obi. Where do I stop? :shutup:

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Obi Obi is 110k in on the day 3 course. They're laying down carpet for the walkers. Think that would happen if ironman group wasn't organising?

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You live on the Sunshine Coast and think Razorback is steep!!

I think you need to get out more....

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Duck over to Aherns Rd and do Postmans Track. Or Phillipps Rd off Dulong, or Obi Obi. Where do I stop? :shutup:

Razerback is steeper than ObiObi.

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Razerback is steeper than ObiObi.

 

Okay, maybe (just, if you take the overall average, and we know they mean diddly squat) But I'll 'see' your Razorback and 'raise' you a Postmans.

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Okay, maybe (just, if you take the overall average, and we know they mean diddly squat) But I'll 'see' your Razorback and 'raise' you a Postmans.

dick swingers, if you havent trained they will all f$%k you up... if you have your heart rate will be high and you'll be out of the saddle but you'll make it up them.

 

I'd be making sure i have fairly new cleats on for these hills as i wouldnt want to be accidently pulling out and having to restart on them.

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On ‎16‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 5:47 PM, Ruley said:

dick swingers

You didn't get it... obviously.

I was originally posting in reply to someone who lives on the sunny coast that thought Razorback was the steepest climb he'd ever done, and proceeded to point out a few more that were steeper, in his own backyard , and indicated that maybe he should broaden his horizons.  I've done most steep climbs in the GC and SC Hinterlands, both gravel and *cough* tarmac, and reckon Postmans Track would 'bust' most punters..... let alone triathletes!

 

But sadly, it's not included in this latest 'Fondo'. :/

 

 

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12 hours ago, KKB said:

You didn't get it... obviously.

I was originally posting in reply to someone who lives on the sunny coast that thought Razorback was the steepest climb he'd ever done, and proceeded to point out a few more that were steeper, in his own backyard , and indicated that maybe he should broaden his horizons.  I've done most steep climbs in the GC and SC Hinterlands, both gravel and *cough* tarmac, and reckon Postmans Track would 'bust' most punters..... let alone triathletes!

 

But sadly, it's not included in this latest 'Fondo'. :/

 

 

Haha no problem. 
would be funny to put one of the drink stops down the bottom at baroon pocket dam with an out and back, that would give you another nice speedy descent with a small climb out.

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1 hour ago, Ruley said:

Haha no problem. 
would be funny to put one of the drink stops down the bottom at baroon pocket dam with an out and back, that would give you another nice speedy descent with a small climb out.

Is that the crazy steep bit to goes to the dam wall?

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14 hours ago, KKB said:

You didn't get it... obviously.

I was originally posting in reply to someone who lives on the sunny coast that thought Razorback was the steepest climb he'd ever done, and proceeded to point out a few more that were steeper, in his own backyard , and indicated that maybe he should broaden his horizons.  I've done most steep climbs in the GC and SC Hinterlands, both gravel and *cough* tarmac, and reckon Postmans Track would 'bust' most punters..... let alone triathletes!

 

But sadly, it's not included in this latest 'Fondo'. :/

 

 

Because most punters don't want to pay to be humiliated in front of people by having to get off and walk.

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1 hour ago, Ruley said:

Haha no problem. 
would be funny to put one of the drink stops down the bottom at baroon pocket dam with an out and back, that would give you another nice speedy descent with a small climb out.

Now there's an idea. ;)

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18 minutes ago, sme1414 said:

Because most punters don't want to pay to be humiliated in front of people by having to get off and walk.

Don't worry, I've humiliated myself a couple of times up there and didn't have to pay anyone!! :lol:

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I'm in for the three days. Been a good boost to the bike training for the tri season.

Not sure what shape I will be in by the start of Sunday's ride but the courses are great so at least will be suffering with scenery

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I did the three day Velothon, and really enjoyed it!

Fabulous scenery, good roads and very well run - especially for a first time event - all seemed to work pretty well, a few little teething things but nothing major at all...

I'll probably do it again next year, and might do a wee bit more training for those hills though...

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Did you make it up Obi Obi without walking?

I certainly did not !! :)

 

Well don eon doing the three day. Agree well run event and loved the clubhouse concept.

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1 hour ago, AJS said:

I did the three day Velothon, and really enjoyed it!

Fabulous scenery, good roads and very well run - especially for a first time event - all seemed to work pretty well, a few little teething things but nothing major at all...

I'll probably do it again next year, and might do a wee bit more training for those hills though...

;-)

That's if the locals allow it next year, usual whingeing comments on social media.

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2 hours ago, FatPom said:

Looks like a great event. Were the roads closed all three days?

No they just closed the sections designated for sprint and KoM sections otherwise controlled roads. We were given right of way for right turns and some roundabouts otherwise fully open so occasional red lights and give way at junctions. Though through the hinterland not many of those!

Definitely would recommend to others and dates set for the same weekend next year

 

oh and I made it up Obi Obi :whistling:

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Nice.  I think Velothon Wales is completely closed. A few years ago I did 'Etape Cymru'  ( based at Wrexham) and it was completely closed and was fantastic. I think it only lasted two years as Velothon seems to have taken its place.

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I might have had a little walk up the first steep bit of Obi Obi - but didn't seem to lose too much time to those riding :-) 

Agree with other views, all three days had a really good feel - well marshalled, decent pace riding without being uber-competitive...

Didn't encounter too many issues with traffic / junctions and only confusing bit was a couple of red traffic lights at the very end of Day 3 (in the last 3-4km) where it wasn't clear whether I had the right to ride through (as at every other junction) or obey road rules (as per briefing)... I might have just been a wee bit tired by then!

 

;-) 

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There were plenty of challenging hills to my mind!

Obi Obi was indeed probably the toughest, but there were another couple that popped over 20% (including one toward the end of Day 3 coming back out of Woombye toward Maroochydore)...

That and the 17% one about 5 miles in to day one were a bit of a shock to the system for sure! 

 

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Obi Obi was definitely the hardest I believe. Max gradient was 43%. Thats insane.

Yeah, Mt Kiel Road at the end. I literally swore when I saw that. 

The last 50K of the last day was harder than it seemed from the profile.

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Anyone doing this this year? I've signed up for the three day this time. Need to do a heap of riding. 

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Obi Obi was definitely the hardest I believe. Max gradient was 43%. Thats insane.

That can't be right - there are no paved roads in Australia that are a 43% gradient - more likely 23% - if you drive a dozer up a 43% grade it's flat out making it 🙄

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On 15/05/2018 at 9:47 AM, AP said:

That can't be right - there are no paved roads in Australia that are a 43% gradient - more likely 23% - if you drive a dozer up a 43% grade it's flat out making it 🙄

There may be none with no averge gradient of that, but surely its posisble for a max gradient - even for one metre?

Have a look at the segment on Veloviewer: https://veloviewer.com/segment/657655

Could be some errors in how data is recorded, but whatever it is: it's steep.

 

 

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On 15/05/2018 at 7:47 AM, AP said:

That can't be right - there are no paved roads in Australia that are a 43% gradient - more likely 23% - if you drive a dozer up a 43% grade it's flat out making it 🙄

But a Postie bike on the other hand....... LOL 😎🤘

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