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The D Max LS 4x2 only has a towing capacity of 2.5t versus 3.5t for the 4x4 model. Sure you may not be towing that weight but resale would be significantly affected plus if it's built for the heavier weight you know it's going to be tougher and last longer.

 

The Ranger and BT are 3.5 tonnes regardless of model and specs in the high-rider and 4x4 range. When I advertised my used BT50 4x2 with 3.5t towing, the phone rang off the hook for days and it wasn't even that cheap.

 

You get what you pay for.

Within the thread I was one of the first to mention the Ranger.

 

Brilliant thread, very informative.

 

I throw it back to the OP, he knows what he needs, and he has all his info collated here.

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My inlaws have bought a bt50 dual cab tray back to tow their 5th wheeler. He seems happy with the power of it. He used to have a bigger 5th wheeler towed by a non turbo diesel Landcruiser ute. Would bitch all the time about it's lack of power - could only get it up to about 90k/hr in some conditions. Like he had to be anywhere fast!

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BT50 for three years, no probs, has suited this little black duck, lots of beach work, all good in the really soft stuff, tows well

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Quite a few little errors in that article that make them sound streets apart, however you'd barely notice in the end. The Ford engine was tickled in the latest model on paper and it says the Matza wasn't, however it actually was, just not documented in the specs. The Ford was $16k more for the model I bought as generally Ford don't discount off the retail, however Mazda do.

 

There's talk that the next BT50 in a few years will be based on the Hilux chassis and engine rather than the Ford, under a new partnership arrangement.

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Don't you love Transitions! Better advice on cars than anything tri related for years :lol::lol:

 

So, just bought the 2016 BT50 4x2 Twin cab XTR model with a few extras - sports bar (I think I qualify, I did a triathlon once), hard cover, towbar kit and a few others for a touch under $45K.

 

One month wait for delivery, but hey.

 

this one:

 

http://www.mazda.com.au/cars/mazda-bt-50-dual-cab/features/exterior/

 

So to all my Trannie advisors - thanks!

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Good work. You'll love it. Same as mine basically except that I went with a canopy. One month is pretty good, particularly if it's other than white as they can take a while to come.

 

I'm going to keep a very low profile around here if it turns out to be a lemon !! :scooter: or get out quickly.

 

I almost found myself annoyed the other night, there was a comparison online between all of the utes and it said that the Ranger was the fastest and the BT50 the slowest of all, but yet they are almost an identical engine? They put the BT50 at 13.5 seconds from 0-100, so I tested mine, as tested, auto, same model, etc and it pulled 10.5 seconds without pushing it and that was twice. I then realised that the article was a paid promotion by Ford on the news.com.au website.

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BC_J

 

I promise that if it turns out a lemon, the worst that will happen is that you'll get out of the swim to flat tyres in T1 :sneaky2:

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Dragging up an old thread.

 

Finally took delivery of a new MY17 Colorado LTZ (4x4) yesterday. Did a fair bit of research over the last month or 2 in particular and took advantage of some run out deals to create a bit of a price war!!

 

Drove pretty much everything in the class, and each has it's pros and cons. On paper my pick was the D-Max, but once we got in a drove it, it made the decision easy. It was a rough as guts and finish was at the price point it markets itself at. Nothing wrong with it as I reckon I could have saved $6/$7k, but happy wife, happy life, so the comfort of the Colorado won out.

 

Ranger was great, comfort wise, and had all the bells and whistles, but couldn't justify the additional cost. Didn't like the Amarok for a variety of reasons include back seat space, service cost.

 

Others were all much of a muchness, with various pros and cons. Was keen to have a good look over the Hilux (SR5) and personally, gotta say I was underwhelmed. Rough, noisy and just finished off, I dunno, tacky is probably the best way to describe. Each to their own, others will probably love it, but not for me.

 

Anyway, deal came with a few accessories mods, but now onto the serious stuff. Looking at options at the moment (just told tell the wife).

 

Cheers

Ayto

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Been hearing alot of tradies are keen to see the final price point for the new merc ute expected to hit our shores second half of the year. Talk is the price will be similar to SR5 hilux or just a bit more. Know of a few that are holding off upgrading and missing out on tax deductions rather than having to wait 3 years.

 

http://www.caradvice.com.au/493001/mercedes-benz-x-class-ute-to-be-a-key-option-for-australian-buyers-company-claims/

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Isuzu is supposed to be reliable and truck like. But not as refined as the Rangers/Mazda/Hilux.

 

Hilux is a living on its name a little.

The Ranger is great but you atleast want XLT and they cost a bit.

 

This link may help you.

 

http://www.caradvice.com.au/388419/ute-comparison-ford-ranger-v-holden-colorado-v-isuzu-d-max-v-mazda-bt-50-v-mitsubishi-triton-v-nissan-navara-v-toyota-hilux-v-volkswagen-amarok-2/

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So thread revival time.  With the commute being done in the Kluger, the costs of petrol are killing me, currently getting around 11 - 11.5 litres per 100kms.  So with the impending arrival of a few head of sheep on the block and winter coming and the need for firewood around the corner, I've struck and the wife has kind of agreed to shopping around for a dual cab ute - once I sell one of the cars and sell the other after buying it

I'm ideally looking for a 2012 onwards D-Max with the newer more fuel efficient engine, but not completely closed off to other models, but the mileage is going to be a big consideration in getting this past the minister of finance.  How do D-Max drivers and others find their actual mileage compared to stated values?  If it helps my commute is roughly 70kms of open highway and 15kms of city driving both ways daily, my Kluger is meant to do 12.5 litres / 100kms combine so hoping that I'll find the results are better.  Ideally I'm also after 4*4 so that I can get off road a bit more

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Can't help you on D-Max Utes sorry.

But I also had a Kluger a few years back. Loved the car but couldn't stand the fuel economy and size of the fuel tank meant you were constantly in line at the servo. Now drive a Prado (actually I never see it as the wife won't relinquish the keys) and love the extra fuel tank and getting up to 1300km between fills.

I drive a Triton GLX dual cab. Bought it 3 years because it was so cheap compared to everything else. Nothing spectacular in terms of finish or how it drives, but it does the job for me perfectly. My only issue has been that it suddenly got hot 3 weeks ago and ended up having to be towed to the nearest dealer. Turns out it was fatal and they're putting in a new engine under warranty. Not sure whether to be happy with the service and warranty from Mitsubishi or concerned that the original motor blew up at 40,000km.

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Im in a BT50 and recently drove from home to the Gold Coast on a (65 litre) tank. 

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My new guiding partner has just been thru the 'which 4WD dual cab' issue.  He ended up with a BT50 - mostly because the dealer was far more useful and switched on than the local Ford dealer, else he'd have ended up in a Ranger.  He liked the D-Max, but said the road noise was worse than my 93 diesel Hilux.....I find that very hard to believe, but there you go.

For serious off-road, they are all suspect & prone to damage without spending more $'s on lift kits etc. compared to the 93 SR5 Hilux.  On road, all new 4WD dual cabs (well maybe not a Great Wall?) are like an F1 car compared to my old rice burner.

Gundy - amazed your Triton cooked.  My brother has a 2012 model which would be the most abused Triton in Australia (e.g. 30,000kms over-due for services, engine light coming on) and it just keeps going.  It goes all right on moderate off-road stuff too.

If (when) my old Hilux dies, I'm going to replace with another old Hilux (the LN106 & 107R models are the best ever built - mine is a 107) as it never has to go more than 90mins on the bitumen.  But my Winter project is to tart the old girl up a bit, in a sort or mutton dressed up as lamb cheapie way.

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33 minutes ago, ComfortablyNumb said:

Gundy - amazed your Triton cooked.  My brother has a 2012 model which would be the most abused Triton in Australia (e.g. 30,000kms over-due for services, engine light coming on) and it just keeps going.  It goes all right on moderate off-road stuff too.

Apparently Mitsubishi had a machining issue on the heads of some engines at about the build time of my triton. I've been very happy with the way that they've handled it so far. Hopefully pick up the ute early next week to know for sure that I'm happy.

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I have a Hilux, I've had a few and never owned anything else except a cruiser Ute and a landcruiser, i can provide absolutely no info on other manufactures purely because i just love Toyota, its more than likely that  there are better dual cabs than my hilux but i aint changing.  Haven"t been able to kill one yet.  I desperately would love to get my old 40 series back, worst car selling decision i ever made i reckon.

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27 minutes ago, KieranR said:

I have a Hilux, I've had a few and never owned anything else except a cruiser Ute and a landcruiser, i can provide absolutely no info on other manufactures purely because i just love Toyota, its more than likely that  there are better dual cabs than my hilux but i aint changing.  Haven"t been able to kill one yet.  I desperately would love to get my old 40 series back, worst car selling decision i ever made i reckon.

Exactly mate.  Why anyone would buy a Ford or Holden is beyond me.  Toyota is the way to go.  Got a new Altise as my work car and it is lovely on long trips, so quiet.

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You'll love it ayto. Best mate has one. I've driven it heaps. Awesome car. I'd love one but don't need it for anything. 

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I'm 12 months in the Colorado Cotteneyes.

I regularly tow our Camper Trailer (2.2t) and loaded up with drawers / fridge etc and I get better mileage with all that than you do in the Kluger!!!  Averaged less than 12l/100 for our most recent trip to Eildon & Healesville which has a few hills etc as you know.

Sans Camper Trailer I am regularly getting <8L per hundred as a mix of highway and around town.

Can't speak for anything else.

Good luck

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