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Looking forward to the new season getting underway and hopefully a bit less peptide focus this season.

 

Rough season preview...

 

I've got 3 teams a lock for top 8, Hawks, Freo, Eagles.

 

I've got 5 teams that can't make the top 8, Bombers, Blues, Lions, Saints, Demons (of those I think the Demons could be the best, Jesse Hogan got to sort out his set-shot kicking though).

 

Then the rest. Really have no idea how they'll pan out, Pies should be pretty good, Cats have great top-end talent but lack depth, Swans lower then previous seasons, Giants or Suns to make finals for first time?

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I'm taking the Bombers, Round One v Suns @ Metricon. Huge upset, what will it pay on the TAB?

 

I understand we will only win a few games and probably finish bottom.

 

Port to make the 8, with the Dogs continuing to show improvement. I think however they wont make the 8 ahead of the usual scramble for 6th-8th.

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What happened to my p1ss myself laughing emoticons?

I thought you were giving him pineapples!

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Going to be an interesting year, if the top 8 don't significantly improve against last year, they will all slide.

 

Cats (barring injuries to key players) should be top 8 and the Pies should be there as well with a vastly better second half of season as the young kids get some more endurance (and having more options to kick the goals instead of Clokes usual yips - I also see Cloke in his last few seasons, do not expect him to be playing past 2017, he's really in the same situation as Fraser was now with the better options coming in that will keep him out of the team). Giants and or Suns (With a fit Ablett) will also be unlucky to not make it into September as well, Port for me is a smokey that I don't want to call. That's around 3 - 4 teams from last years 8 that need to make room.

 

Crows, Sydney, North, and West Coast in that order are my picks to drop out as the others come in, I see the Hawks finishing 4 - 6 and missing out on the GF.

 

Freo is my pick to breakthrough

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I think the 'Pies will have the same problem of the last few years, a shit coach (though I also think they lack key talent.)

 

Haven't followed the pre-season much but right now I understand that there are about 13 teams that are all shoe-ins for the eight. Like most years we won't really know where teams are really at until about round 7 or 8. I'm optimistic that my boys (Freo) will still be top 4 or thereabouts come September. The midfield is superb, forward line marginally more dangerous though still probably below par and the backs play a real team game and though McPharlin is a big loss he hasn't played for big chunks of the last few seasons without too much damage.

 

Possible sliders are Richmond (sorry Tyno), North, Doggies and West Coast courtesy of tougher draws but probably only one of the first two to drop from the eight. I can't see anyone other than Geelong or Port really lifting themselves back in.

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Much discussion amongst the faithful about a need for a solid start.

Best effort under Hardwick so far has been 3-3.

That's not good enough.

Add to that we have blokes with over-use type injuries already.

But, if we can't beat Carlton, well........

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Stikman, you seriously believe that Adelaide who was only just in the 8 is going to be there again after losing Dangerfield?

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I can't believe that the mid-year murder of their coach didn't negatively affect them so with that (mostly) behind them I would expect them to be better as a team. Had they won the game against Geelong as they were expected to before it was declared a draw they would have finished 6th, above the Doggies that many people expect a lot from this year. Dangerfield is a huge loss but I don't think he alone makes 2-3 games difference in the win column. To be frank it's more about pessimism for the teams that finished 11-18 last year than it is anything else, the drop-off was fairly large.

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Was never going to be pretty but happy to see the Tiges get the 4 points and no new injuries.

 

Interested in the Demons vs Giants game tomorrow, two teams that could surprise to the upside this season if they start well. Demons with the likes of Petracca, Brayshaw, and Trengove looking to break into the first team soon and Giants with Coniglio and Hoskin-Elliott left out of firsts shows both teams have decent depth.

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For all the talk of the Carlton rebuild, stats from last night...

Average games per player: Richmond 73.7 - Carlton 84.5

Average age: Richmond 24y 5m - Carlton 25y 7m

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Although I follow the North Queensland Cowboys, WCE are my AFL team. I hope we can go one better than last year.

 

Geelong will be a force. Nth Melbourne to have a stinker. Hawks to make the GF but lose. Essendon to go winless.

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Hawks wont make top 4.

Bomber will win a few games.

I hate to say it. Freo will win.

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Pies are poor, but some of the Swans new blood looking promising.

Yes indeed they did. Would hate to be a selector mid week. Pies got killed in midfield.

Swans defence not really troubled. It worries me. Teddy R to come back and bring experience.

 

But pies were woeful. Suspect drugs and Swan off early had a big impact. Still a win is a win. Cheer cheer ;)

 

(Was magic out there tonight. Warm. Perfect watching weather; Oh and a surprise my (sports not general) doctor is now Swans Dr. Weird as 27 years ago had same situation.

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Do I watch more than the first quarter before I throw away my hopes for the season? Lack of skills and effort is deplorable!

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Yes indeed they did. Would hate to be a selector mid week. Pies got killed in midfield.

Swans defence not really troubled. It worries me. Teddy R to come back and bring experience.

 

But pies were woeful. Suspect drugs and Swan off early had a big impact. Still a win is a win. Cheer cheer ;)

 

(Was magic out there tonight. Warm. Perfect watching weather; Oh and a surprise my (sports not general) doctor is now Swans Dr. Weird as 27 years ago had same situation.

 

Swan might not be back, career ending I would think.

 

No point in over reading Round One....Swans are youngish, exciting, play half of their games in Sydney, have a chance for the 4. Pies not. Yeah the Pies have a few good young players but they did not rebuild quickly enough, they stood still a few years after winning a GF......that shows now. Cloke again, almost no possessions or positive touches the entire first half.

 

Any club wanting a spot in the 8 would have to be better than, Roos, Tigers, Port, Bulldogs, that's big ask. That's why Gold Coast and GWS remain on the fringe, it's a big leap and it will take at least 12 wins....I think short again.

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Yeah agreed

West coast won. But should have been 110 points or more. Bit worried especially when you see the Hawks come back to nearly win against Geelong. Next week will be a different story for the Eagles. Away vs the Hawks.

 

Great to see Freo on the bottom of the ladder. Won't last but I do enjoy it. Ross Lyon anywhere anytime.....pfft

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I'll take another 22 Rounds of Footy like that, some cracking games already. Early days but the rule changes seem to have lead to some more attacking play.

 

Round 2 sees 9 teams that won in Round 1 vs 9 teams that lost in Round 1.

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Still coming to grips with my pies not being bottom of the ladder after that - (well I want to call it a performance, but there wasn't much performing so not sure I can), the ray of hope for season 16 is still there. Although if they perform like that again, Essendon is going to be alot more competitive on Anzac day than we all thought

 

I'm not taking too much out of round 1 yet, Carlton is a worry though if they get going like that each week, good to see the doggies get such a great result. Think we are going to see Hawks depth get tested this season, will be the big question on how well they go.

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Did anyone catch the footy show last night? Did they give a reason why their new host wasn't on the show? I joined in a bit before 9 and took me about 15 minutes to twig that she wasn't on the show.

 

Sam's spray about the drug use was interesting. I'd agree with most of it right up to the point where he claimed Essendon players were innocent.

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A few tipsters going the Pies ($2.18) v the Tigers ($1.71) tonight.

 

Form is nothing much at this time of year, but I do have the Tigers winning.

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A few tipsters going the Pies ($2.18) v the Tigers ($1.71) tonight.

 

Form is nothing much at this time of year, but I do have the Tigers winning.

Will be nice to hear more about the match. Riewoldt 3 goals in the 4th, but Pies put on pressure

right up to the siren.

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Richmond put the Richmond in Richmond and pissed a game away.

Had momentum and a decent lead then played dead and lost.

Again. :shit:

 

Don't worry though, we gave our coach a contract extension before the season started, so we're heading in the right direction.........

:taz:

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On another note - I'd take young Moore in a heartbeat and can see why we wanted Treloar.

Both kids came up big.

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Richmond put the Richmond in Richmond and pissed a game away.

Had momentum and a decent lead then played dead and lost.

Again. :shit:

 

Don't worry though, we gave our coach a contract extension before the season started, so we're heading in the right direction.........

:taz:

The board will be highly thrilled with Hardwick. Despite enormous expectations, the

leap to bridge the gap to the 4 is still huge.

 

And every year they still struggle to balance the books, so they are doing ok. But ok, this current

group of players maybe should have taken the club a bit higher. Maybe they still can

 

I am now EDITING, only now I noticed the Pies won the game on a 31st minute goal.

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That first half was up there with the most error prone in history. The pre game from Carey, Richo, Ling et al was all about how perfect the conditions were and how someone would kick a bag. Then both sides missed every 2nd target and dropped easy marks all over the shop.

 

The second half was thrilling (except for Tyno). I was willing the Pies over line for my teams sake. I have written off the Pies so I want them to take the odd scalp still of the finals candidates.

 

Bruce Mc is struggling with Pendles serving up some average footy. If Cyril goes cold there could be trouble.

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Rance had a shocker, have not really seen him have a game that justifies his AA selections.

 

Starts on Cloke, Cloke gets in the game before moving up field.

Rance goes to Moore, Moore gets going

Rance on Fasalo, we know how Fasalo went in the second half

 

That Short guy is going to be one to watch though, don't get many better starts than that and be able to say your first touch was a mark on Pendles and a goal.

 

Reid was a welcome return back, you could see he just made the defence that much better with his decision making

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Rance had a shocker, have not really seen him have a game that justifies his AA selections.

 

 

Pick any game Vs Buddy.

 

I think he misses Chaplin, they worked well together.

I think our structure over uses Rance now.

He went from being a total spud with ball in hand, to using it OK, but he's not the kind of guy to be the bail out option for the back 6. Which is what he seemed to be last night.

The moves of players would have been impacted by Grimes going down, again.

Rance is not a bloke who can go with small forwards.

Moore will towel up a lot of back men in the years to come.

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Bombers win. Dees made a lot of fundamental errors leading to gifted goals and so did we. As such,

it was a decent game, not great, but did illustrate that both clubs must improve.Dees in particular fooled around with the ball in defense, and that's usually fatal.

 

Daniher had a few highlights, one classic screamer. And a few more where the Dees

did not contest or spoil adequately.

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New season prediction:

 

Freo will not win a game but Nat Fyfe will come second in the Coleman. :-/

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Suns were impressive last night, quality mids and solid key position players at either end, and they don't just shovel the ball straight to Ablett every time now. They have Blues and Lions next so could be sitting on a decent start to the season.

 

And Fox Footy have a good new commentator in Adam Papalia who also does 6PR Perth radio calls, based in Perth he's flown PER>MEL for Fri night, MEL>PER for Sat arvo, PER>MEL for Hawthorn vs West Coast today, then finally home MEL>PER.

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Per Neroli Meadows (Freo Fan) on twitter...

Incredible stats after 2 rounds - Ross Lyon's Freo have conceded 229 points. Dogs have conceded just 74.

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It should be interesting to see how the rule changes play out. Swans, Freo and to a lesser extent Demons under Roos have been happy playing footy with a gazillion stoppages.

 

I haven't seen the stats but the quarters appear shorter so less creeping around the boundary line with 44 players within a kick either way shovelling it out. The rule change is great for spectating.

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Swans. Big win. Still not convinced their defence will be up to the task once they meet a good (well ... very good) midfield.

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Giants putting the Cats to sword impressively. Great legal shirtfront by Mummy and a hanger by WHE in the space of a minute.

How's the tipping going? Ffs

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Very scary to see the Eagles go down like that today. #nightmare

 

I did notice that during the round one game against Brisbane, the back line form and movement was very "2014"..... Which is a very very bad thing. Gaining possession and bombing it out WILL NOT AND DOES NOT WORK in the modern game.

I hope we can turn it around. And a level headed tipster would seriously back Freo next week.

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This is the year!

I can feel it in my bones!

Next year is the year!

I can feel it in my bones!

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