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So, Siddle left out for Hazlewood for the first test. I wonder how that will work out?

 

With two strike bowlers working from one end - both who can be wayward and provide an attacking batting line up - like the one NZ will sport - ample opportunities to score runs - Hazlewood better be up to bowling a tight line and length at the other end - something he wasnt capable of doing in England.

 

For my money they should have gone with the workhorse Siddle ...

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I saw the pitch today, it is a road.

I've haven't watched a ball this game - under the gun at work, but it seems that you are right. While it is terrific to see our new top order getting a bunch of runs and batting time, it would be delusional to put down Australia's first innings success to our batting awesomeness. Particularly when NZ probably have the best bowling line up in international cricket, bar Australia.

 

It just shits me. When not as bad as the down right cheating (thankfully that backfired) of the poms in the first two tests of the last Ashes tour it should not happen. Sure Channel 9 and Cricket Australia both want a test match to go 5 days but the quality of the game suffers. Moreover it does nothing to prepare our batters to be competitive on the sub convenient or in England. As I said. Shitful.

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No Kerry O'Keefe anymore but the ABC Grandstand call is still as good as ever and Dirk Nannes and Brian Waddle are having a bit of fun...

 

Nannes: "Is there anyone he could throw the ball to?"

Waddle: "Guptill."

Nannes: "What does he bowl?"

Waddle: "Rubbish."

 

 

Nannes: "I had this dream that I'd save a match. Not slogging, get behind it, bat all day."

Waddle: "I had a nightmare I was watching it."

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Front Sports page of Auckland paper today headline "When does the rugby season start?" with a picture of a test cricketer walking back to the sheds. About sums up NZ attitude to cricket.

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If this ends in a draw (and I hope it does) it will be a case of suck shite TA - dishing up that road was being to smart by half. Stop treating everybody like fools and start preparing pitches that are fair to bowlers and conducive to wickets.

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So, by my estimates, we have lost around 3 hrs of play to rain delays. That still leaves 21 hours of play, for the fall of 21 wickets in total. Really a descent and fair pitch should produce well over 30 wickets in that time ...

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Remember when the gabba was a day 1 & 2 seamers paradise ?

Joy! Yet even in those days good batsmen could get big scores and there was enough in the wicket for the spinners to get a look - in Warne's case, even in the first innings ... Sigh

 

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One point worth raiding imo. Johnson took 4 wickets for the match but his team mates dropped a bunch of chances off his bowling as well. I reckon Smith should have done him a solid and given him first crack at the second new ball in recompense - especially as he'd drawn level with Lee on 310 wickets...

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Am I watching the same test? Day 5 session 1 result. Spinner takes wickets at the end. This is bad for cricket how?

A heap of day 4 was washed out.

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Am I watching the same test? Day 5 session 1 result. Spinner takes wickets at the end. This is bad for cricket how?

because if you win the toss you win the match

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because if you win the toss you win the match

 

Why?

Yes, we put on a huge 1st innings total, but then bowled NZ out and could have put on another one if we weren't just going for quick runs (4/264 at over 6/over). NZ just did not have the batting, or the bowling after Southee was injured.

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because if you win the toss you win the match

NZ scored more than 600 combined as the losing side including near on 300 for the 4th innings. To me this was a perfectly designed pitch for a result in 5 days.

 

Looking at the rain delays it really was 4 days of play. Seeing the side batting last still scored well, it was not the pitch that won it. Australia won by having better batsmen and bowlers. Simple.

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If this ends in a draw (and I hope it does) it will be a case of suck shite TA - dishing up that road was being to smart by half. Stop treating everybody like fools and start preparing pitches that are fair to bowlers and conducive to wickets.

This may have slipped through to the keeper but how did you manage to blame TA for this. Even Gimili couldn't draw a bow that long.

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Since the end of the Warne Mcgrath era:

 

Batting first Oz wins 83 %

 

Batting second 29 %

 

When a result occurs

 

Winning the toss matters a lot

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Play with stats however you you want. Australia have a Win/Loss ratio of 4.5 to 1 at the Gabba compared to NZ's 1 to 8. Does it really matter whether they batted first or not?

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NZ scored more than 600 combined as the losing side including near on 300 for the 4th innings. To me this was a perfectly designed pitch for a result in 5 days.

 

Looking at the rain delays it really was 4 days of play. Seeing the side batting last still scored well, it was not the pitch that won it. Australia won by having better batsmen and bowlers. Simple.

 

Batting first and having a fast scoring rate means you can't lose.

 

Which is nice for the spectators, but does nothing to address batting techniques in adverse conditions. A glaring weakness which again, combined with Clarke's poor captaincy lost us the Ashes.

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Batting first and having a fast scoring rate means you can't lose.

 

Which is nice for the spectators, but does nothing to address batting techniques in adverse conditions. A glaring weakness which again, combined with Clarke's poor captaincy lost us the Ashes.

spot on - except for the Clarke captaincy point - irrelevant when your top order (including Clarke) are getting out for 60 in the first innings ... I'd say some of Clarke's captaincy decisions were an attempt to mix things up to get back into the game - a bit like shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic as it turned out. The selectors however should have gone for Siddle as the No.4 bowler - when it became clear that Hazlewood could not hold a tight line and length as the two Mitch's hunted for wickets at the other end (and were spraying it about a fair bit) ...

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spot on - except for the Clarke captaincy point - irrelevant when your top order (including Clarke) are getting out for 60 in the first innings ... I'd say some of Clarke's captaincy decisions were an attempt to mix things up to get back into the game - a bit like shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic as it turned out. The selectors however should have gone for Siddle as the No.4 bowler - when it became clear that Hazlewood could not hold a tight line and length as the two Mitch's hunted for wickets at the other end (and were spraying it about a fair bit) ...

 

I doubt Siddle would have made any difference to be honest Andrew. I actually thought Hazelwood bowled pretty well in the series (his first tour anywhere). He got wickets in every innings including a couple of three-fors I think even though he missed the last test. I also think Siddle has a history of falling off in form/fitness as long series go on.

 

It's all irrelevant anyway, as you highlighted, the issue was never our bowling, our batting was just abysmal!!!

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First year in ages that I haven't been to the Gabba for the first test but, watching on TV, I didn't think it was a bad test match pitch. Australia has an awesome record in Brissy and we managed to bowl them out twice, a team with a solid batting line up, for around the 300 mark. It couldn't have been that batter friendly plus it turned a little for Lyon later on plus it swung when it was cloudy but there was maybe not as much lateral movement as normal on the first day/session.

 

I just think we just love the Gabba, batted brilliantly and bowled well with the luxury of plenty of runs to play with.

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Phil Hughes biography released today, co-written by Malcolm Knox and Peter Lalor.

Unfortunately we know all too well how it ends but should be a great read.

Know a few people from the Coffs area who had a bit to do with his early days moving through the age group rep teams so looking forward to having a read.

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1/271 of 58 at the Waca. Warner is on fire this series. Khawaja making the most of his chance in the 80s. Reported that the wicket is like a day 3 pitch. Interesting to see how the cracks open.

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Love that Khawaja is taking a stranglehold on the No. 3 position, I always thought that he was the best of the fringe players due to his excellent technique. Like they say, form will come and go but technique is forever.

 

Unlike my comments about the Gabba, this pitch does look like a road. If it is like a Day 3 pitch then it should certainly start to get some good cracking up by Sunday. The only issue with that is that the result of the match essentially rested with the result of the toss. First session should certainly offer something for the bowlers.

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Adelaide city council are pouring the pitch for the next Test as we speak, cant wait.

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Adelaide city council are pouring the pitch for the next Test as we speak, cant wait.

 

Steel trowel finish??

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If pitches are going to contibue to be like this, theyre going to have to revert to the 2 piece ball

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Mitch Johnson calling it quits after today. Had some great Tests in Australia vs the Poms and Saffas.

Enjoyed watching him bat as well, such a clean strike when he got hold of one. Hopefully gets among some runs or wickets today.

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Mitch Johnson calling it quits after today. Had some great Tests in Australia vs the Poms and Saffas.

Enjoyed watching him bat as well, such a clean strike when he got hold of one. Hopefully gets among some runs or wickets today.

Runs, yes. Wickets, doubtful.

 

Cricket Australia. Securing the future of test cricket. Take a bow, not!

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I probably missed something. Over 1600 runs scored and we declare leaving them over 300 in 30 overs maximum.

 

Mitch out at 34, still in his prime if rested? 310 wickets in 72 Tests, nice haul.

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Adelaide city council are pouring the pitch for the next Test as we speak, cant wait.

Maybe they could throw a bit of aggregate in there for some variation?

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