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no shock really, she hasnt been competitive for a couple of yrs due to a shoulder injury caused by the ski.

 

word is Jordie Mercer is on the wat to Tri as well.

 

Reckon the Surf Iron Man series will be goooooone unless oneHD decide not to charge them to show it this yr like they have been for the last two

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Will win age group with ease

 

Not so sure about that.

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They should give her a free entry to Kona to help raise the international profile of the sport.

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I hope I can get out of the water in front of her. That is a wheel I wouldn't mind sitting on. !

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Will win age group with ease

 

Totally, but I would've thought she would be lining up with the pros. Perhaps one or two smaller races to get the taste. Watch out ladies, this girl is tough as nails. Looking forward to seeing how she goes :)

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Following in the footsteps of Caine Eckstein.

 

http://www.dailytele...r-1226629191492

 

 

you must be a week behind me in hearing "the latest" on Caine then

 

ps two simple grammar/spelling errors in that article , I would have thought journalists/editors of major newspapers were better ....

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They should give her a free entry to Kona to help raise the international profile of the sport.

 

 

do you really think that ?

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I think the only surf ironman/women that could of had a crack at Triathlon would have been Kim Tunnell she was at the era of lorreta and co when they started working out how to beat Emma and Mj etc they flog em in the swim stayed away on the bike and held on in the run Kim fitted into that mould perfectley but she could run.I saw her beat Mj in a biathlon one year out swam her by a minute or so and than out ran her ,Brad being her boyfriend at the time shorley she could have picked up the bike riding enough to be in the mix for a few wins but i guess she was a clubby deep down....

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Jordie Mercer could be very good at Triathlon I think

Bateup has probably left it a bit late

 

The SLSA movement started loosing their sporting relevance a long time ago- they have failed to evolve the format of competition and appeal to other than anglo people who live near the coast. They are still rowing boats designed in 1900 and having races with belts and reels ffs! They race standardised solo craft that are absolutely useless for the recreational enthusiasts- skis that dont turn on waves/too narrow for 99% of people/heavy and boards that are flat things that you cant stand up on and barely turn . Even at National level half the chicks struggle with an SLSC spec ski- where's the aspirational dimension to that for a teenage girl watching at home> 13 kg of ski getting smashed into a bank > doesnt look fun= you've lost your audience

 

The economic fact is that most large councils have gradually moved to full time paid guards and the average volley is an overweight middle age guy who can barely get through the proficiency swimming breastroke. The volleys are not what they used to be- even when I was active in a surf club 15 years ago the average member usefulness in perfoming rescues was dubious- it always came down to the same small group of guys who had to get it done -the rest were there to play with radios and fill in time while their kids went to nippers- they did sfa for beach safety- half the time surfers would end up doing rescues on the bigger days if there werent any of us younger guys who could drive the boat in the big stuff around. As the baby boomers shuffle off I wonder if you'll see the structure of surf clubs go more commercial/ gradually lessen the volunteer aspect> QLD is way ahead of the others in that respect

 

None of that change the TV problem Unless SLSA change their competition equipment and formats they are completely irrelevant to mainstream TV audience. Ski racing had to do it> they thought up ski cross/ dual slalom /freestyle etc . Bike racing had to do it> MTB/Freestyle etc. Lifesaving is about 90 years behind

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Will win age group with ease

 

Perhaps you should give the age group girls a little credit Steno.

 

There are some pretty dedicated talented athletes in the age group ranks.

 

Good chance she has never done any bike training before except maybe as cross training when she has been injured. It's a big call IMO and a little demeaning to the top age groupers going around.

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No reason why she wouldn't do well. I doubt her aspirations would be anything more than being a top age grouper.

 

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So there is a competition for people the same age as pros called age group that has dedicated fast athletes in it ??? Why are they not pros ?

If she is not trying to win the race overall then it is not a switch to triathlon, it is an attempt to do another sport for fun.

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because WTC will take a resume in lieu of a National Body Accreditation> ie Lance had the track record not just in cycling but also in Triathlon

 

if WTC wanted to grant Bateup pro status also they could but given she's never actually raced a triathlon (Lance had raced many) thats a bit premature dont you think?

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This thread got me thinking about the SLSC /Triathletes and the ones that did both ,In the 90,s when we had Guy Andrews switch over he was very talented at slsc but as far as tri,s went well i would say shit house he only got a token spot in the f1 because of his name and then tried to blow up at triathletes in the series for making him crash..etcetc

Then who could forget Guy leech again very talented at slsc and tri,s well lets not bag him to much but again token spot in the F1 series,

But before these guys there was two that i can think off that were very well at the top of triathlons one being the Origanal swim biker of the sport Rick pallister who didnt get a token spot on the uncle tobys series but made it and the other being Spot Anderson who did the same .

So i dont think you will get any guys doing both these days at an elite level as the sport of tri is so god dam Fast these days.

 

But Girls i think could still do it if they have a little run in them wait and see i guess

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Bloke called Craig Walton went alright.

 

Yes was going to mention Craig but bit rusty on his slsc results did he do any open races out of tassie .My

opinion is Rick was walto before walto was walto....would have loved to seen those two guys been in the same era with benji

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Rick Pallister won open national slsc titles. Not sure about waldo's palmares.

 

Rick was the best transition athlete if you use that as a milestone. he also went back to slsc successfully

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Andrews won a few AG National Triathlon titles, but triathlon was a sideline to Advrnture Racing for guy after he gave sls away... Did Forster one year - crank came off his bike at about the 100km mark. Still finished in about 10hrs...

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Andrews won a few AG National Triathlon titles, but triathlon was a sideline to Advrnture Racing for guy after he gave sls away... Did Forster one year - crank came off his bike at about the 100km mark. Still finished in about 10hrs...

 

 

Rick won triathlons outright and came 3rd overall at noosa.

 

Guy was a good age grouper. I sus pect Hayley will attain the same level. Remember she is a board/ski specialist - not a strong swimmer. She would be minutes behind moffie over 1.9k

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correct me if im wrong coach @ but was rick the first and last triathlete to race with two disc wheels on! lol

 

 

Yes mate. Wollongong 1989. Then the double disc set up was banned.

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So, a friend tells me that Hayley is back training for surf events. Anyone else heard anything?

 

And while we're on the topic, where is Caine Eckstein? Having another crack at Kona?

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I hope its soon AA7. This year even.

The global profile he brought to the sport is unprecedented.

He might even finish it this time.

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I hope its soon AA7. This year even.

The global profile he brought to the sport is unprecedented.

He might even finish it this time.

And if you could put your profile picture as an emoticon after the last line it would fit in perfectly.

 

There hasn't been a mention of Caine Eckstein in Triathlon circles all year, so it's unlikely he'll be doing much this year.

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Absolute noting on Twitter from Caine in months and months from a regular updater.

 

So WTC using him as a PR identity wouldn't be that happy that he is under ground.

 

Mind you I thought he was going Professional.

 

Someone mush have something on him or know him

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from the boys coming through my work who are in the kellogs ironman series he will be back in the series this year and they arent making him go through the trials at kingscliffe on the 15th of september

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I am a few years late to respond to this topic but...

 

Back in the early 90's when some surf guys had a go at tri's and vice versa, there was one Surf Ironman who never really made it to the top although he was never far away. He never made it to the top due to his weakness in the craft but was never too far away due to his decent swimming ability and his outstanding running ability. I have often thought that if he had a go at Triathlons then he would have been a superstar!

 

The man I am talking about is Murray Cox. Does anyone on here know him and know if he ever considered having a go at tris?

 

Although he was an outstanding sand runner, he could also match both Spot Anderson and Rick Pallister on the road. I have video proof of him doing it several times. He was about a minute faster than the likes of Leech and Hendy over a 5km road race.

 

The difference with him and the likes of Pallister and Anderson is that they probably did a lot more running training over their careers where as Cox spent all of his career in a sport that was mostly upper-body and probably only did 30-40km per week of running.

 

There will always be those who are trying to change from surf to triathlon without much success but Murray Cox was one who probably would have been a star if he had focused on triathlons back in the early 90's.

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Please submit these videos for assessment

I will find one of my youtube clips and post it within the next 24 hours.

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In this clip, it is the pursuit format where the all start at different times depending their accumulated times for water legs. about a minute into the clip it shows their accumulated times which means the time they will start. It shows Murrays start time as 6.03 and he starts in 28th place and finishes in 15th. Guy Andrews is also in the race and Murray's time is about a minute quicker than his. If you look at the start times and subtract that from their finishing times, you can work it all out and to make up 13 places over 5.5km is definitely moving along rather quick.

 

Pallister and Anderson are not in this race as they had given UTSS away by this point but I do have some other videos that I will put up on youtube soon that will show him as being about equal with them on the road.

 

Another clip of interest is this one

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coolangatta+gold+1991

 

In this clip although they are running on hard sand and although it is the last 10km of the Gold Coast Gold, he is more than 4 minutes quicker than Crowie, yes I understand that Crowie may not have been the worlds greatest runner and it is hours after doing everything else but still, 4 minutes faster than the rest of the field over 10km is certainly saying something!

 

Rick Pallister was in the 91 Gold but impossible to compare as he was way behind in the field.

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Puck me i have spent a fair bit of time on that golf course as well, back in the Hyatt Coolum days....

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Geezus - I recall the commentary from the Uncle Toby's series when Murray Cox was racing: I used to count the times when the commentator would say "Murray Cox has run under 14 minutes for 5km on the track" - which I found amusing because back then a sub 14 minutes on the track would place you about 4th in an Australian 5000M track title race ...

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