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10 hours ago, Limited said:

In my industry everyone is drug tested before starting work. And then all sites have random drug testing. Think I’ve been tested 4 times this year alone. I don’t have a problem with random drug testing for people on welfare 

Funnily enough, anybody in our company that works on a Commonwealth Government contract is subject to random drug/alcohol tests, yet the Government themselves aren't.

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30 minutes ago, BarryBevan said:

so you only want poor people who receive benefits from the government drug tested?

I think it's reasonable to expect that people receiving assistance in order to find work do not participate in activities which hinder their ability to find work

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4 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

I think it's reasonable to expect that people receiving assistance in order to find work do not participate in activities which hinder their ability to find work

 

Maybe they should also have checks to make sure their hair is washed & they wear clean clothes.

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46 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

 

Maybe they should also have checks to make sure their hair is washed & they wear clean clothes.

Well now you're just being silly...

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Anyone that is on newstart and can still afford drugs should be given a job in treasury.

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3 hours ago, BarryBevan said:

so you only want poor people who receive benefits from the government drug tested?

Yep, and i also don't give a drunk homeless person $20 so they can buy more alcohol. 

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56 minutes ago, Prince said:

Yep, and i also don't give a drunk homeless person $20 so they can buy more alcohol. 

Same here, but I have been known to give them food.

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20 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

I'm not aware of any rich people with jobs who are on newstart

in fairness though, anyone that gets a franking credit for doing nothing, paying no tax should have to be drug tested.  

you'd have to be on drugs to think you can get a tax credit when you dont pay tax, so lets test those capitalist pigs.

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16 hours ago, Oompa Loompa said:

in fairness though, anyone that gets a franking credit for doing nothing, paying no tax should have to be drug tested.  

you'd have to be on drugs to think you can get a tax credit when you dont pay tax, so lets test those capitalist pigs.

franking credits is income and thus reduces the amount of retirees on the pension. Cant see why that is not a good thing. 

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37 minutes ago, Prince said:

franking credits is income and thus reduces the amount of retirees on the pension. Cant see why that is not a good thing. 

Is that true? I could be wrong, but I thought eligibility for the pension was worked out on assets & pre-tax income. Franking credits are neither of these.

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11 minutes ago, Ex-Hasbeen said:

Is that true? I could be wrong, but I thought eligibility for the pension was worked out on assets & pre-tax income. Franking credits are neither of these.

i might be wrong, it happens a lot lately.  So don't take my word for it. 

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14 hours ago, Prince said:

franking credits is income and thus reduces the amount of retirees on the pension. Cant see why that is not a good thing. 

The pension is socialist welfare.  Drug test the lot of them.... they all came of age in the sixties, the current pensioners would be massive puffin billy fans, instead of doing charity work for st vinnies or the salvos and putting back in... just milking the pension for drugs.... drug test the lot. We want zero free rides. 

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13 hours ago, Prince said:

i might be wrong, it happens a lot lately.  So don't take my word for it. 

Admit nothing, deny everything.  First rule of labor caucus. 

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7 hours ago, Oompa Loompa said:

Admit nothing, deny everything.  First rule of labor caucus. 

and of Liberal Ministers who were in Planning when their property value increased from $4 to $70 million when a metro station goes in. Can't remember how he aquired a share in a $70 million dollar property but always complied with obligations except the bit about not telling parliament about all the properties he owns on metro station rezoning areas.

And Gladys wants to cap political donations at $100. That won't be popular with the Chinese Communist Party

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Seeing we are cracking down on welfare recipients I thought I'd actually read that breakdown you get sent when your tax statement of assessment comes in.

Let's say you pay $30,000 tax

$11,853 goes to welfare. Biggest allocation, double the next which is health at $5751

$4815 is aged pension

$3146 is disability

$2553 is family

$747 is unemployed 

$576 is "other"

Seems a bit ridiculous we are hammering the smallest group out of that lot. 

That "Families" welfare sector receives more money than the Federal government spends on Education and the same as they spend on defence. That is wasteful middle class welfare. Hope they are drug testing the parents receiving that as well.

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2 hours ago, Parkside said:

That "Families" welfare sector receives more money than the Federal government spends on Education and the same as they spend on defence. That is wasteful middle class welfare. Hope they are drug testing the parents receiving that as well.

These days a hell of a lot of them test positive roadside after crashing on school pickup!   :lol: 

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On 18/09/2019 at 6:50 AM, Parkside said:

and of Liberal Ministers who were in Planning when their property value increased from $4 to $70 million when a metro station goes in. Can't remember how he aquired a share in a $70 million dollar property but always complied with obligations except the bit about not telling parliament about all the properties he owns on metro station rezoning areas.

And Gladys wants to cap political donations at $100. That won't be popular with the Chinese Communist Party

I get my boarding pass the other week on the little dash and i'm thinkin row 6, wtf, im never that far down the back of the plane.....  well row 5 was barry o'farrell so clearly he out ranks me on the qantas algorithm...... 

Anyway, Barry was hearing voices on the service.....have the red barry...... lol

anyway, the commies are rife, didnt help the mad monk though,

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/abbott-s-re-election-backed-by-communist-linked-chinese-businessmen-20190404-p51arb.html

 

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ScoMo doing a great job in Washington so far with a couple of very nice speeches

I rather doubt Billary would have been received quite as well given his pre-election assessment of Trump

 

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51 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

ScoMo doing a great job in Washington so far with a couple of very nice speeches

I rather doubt Billary would have been received quite as well given his pre-election assessment of Trump

 

lol, he looked like he was being held hostage in the oval office by trump.  i felt sorry for him watching it, poor bastard.

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What about Scomo trying to take pedo protector Brian Houston along on the white house trip as his pastor and mentor. Only for the Trump White House to reject Houston (? on character grounds). Not reported in aussie media. Wall Street Journal article

Is Scomo as influenced by minority religous beliefs as the Mad Monk?

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1 hour ago, Parkside said:

What about Scomo trying to take pedo protector Brian Houston along on the white house trip as his pastor and mentor. Only for the Trump White House to reject Houston (? on character grounds). Not reported in aussie media. Wall Street Journal article

Is Scomo as influenced by minority religous beliefs as the Mad Monk?

is that your best shot?   Scomo is a bloody legend 

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Lachlan M and Gina made it though - so the checks cant have been too robust 🤣🤣

Probably already enough happy clappy preachers in the room who figured Houston was competition.

 

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2 hours ago, Parkside said:

What about Scomo trying to take pedo protector Brian Houston along on the white house trip as his pastor and mentor. Only for the Trump White House to reject Houston (? on character grounds). Not reported in aussie media. Wall Street Journal article

Is Scomo as influenced by minority religous beliefs as the Mad Monk?

whether its the mad monk supporting the convicted pedo or howard writing him character references after being convicted of kiddie fiddlin, or howard appointing hollingsworth to the gg job.... the libs amaze me with their forgiveness of those in the kiddie fiddler industry. it doesnt make sense amd amuses me news limited dont go to town on it.

still amazed howard would disgrace the office of prime minister by writing a convicted pedo a reference.

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Did anyone see the Trump/Morrison media conference where a report goes, Bush once called Howard a Man of Steel etc etc...... how would Mr president describe Prime minister Morrison.
Trump replied..... he's a man of 'titanium'. Much stronger than steel etc.

Even Morrison burst out laughing.... very funny.

 

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4 hours ago, IronmanFoz said:

Did anyone see the Trump/Morrison media conference where a report goes, Bush once called Howard a Man of Steel etc etc...... how would Mr president describe Prime minister Morrison.
Trump replied..... he's a man of 'titanium'. Much stronger than steel etc.

Even Morrison burst out laughing.... very funny.

 

lol

I was imagining parky throwing up in his mouth a bit when he said that

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On 21/09/2019 at 1:34 PM, Parkside said:

Is Scomo as influenced by minority religous beliefs as the Mad Monk?

What minority religious beliefs was TA influenced by?

Buddhism?

Hinduism?

You can't be talking about Christianity because that isn't a minority religious belief.

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44 minutes ago, Mr Tinman said:

What minority religious beliefs was TA influenced by?

Buddhism?

Hinduism?

You can't be talking about Christianity because that isn't a minority religious belief.

We can probably rule out the AGW cult too

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22% of population identifies as Catholic. 29.6 No religion, 9% didn't answer last census. All organised religions dropping census to census.

Grouped together 57% "Christian"

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“Is Scomo as influenced by minority religous beliefs as the Mad Monk?

I’d say so, IMO

Parky used the term minority  “religious beliefs” (not religions).... Some of the issues Abbott has taken Pells advice for are only supported by a very small number of had line Catholics and not the majority of them. BTW I believe the latest figure is 4% of Australians are practicing Catholics

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In other news, Scomo just gave 150 million or so to NASA? My social feeds are blowing up about this. Lot of very pissed off rural voters who could do with some drought relief wondering why we are funding a mission to Mars.

I'm sure there's a good economoc case for it, but doesn't look good when rural Australia is in crisis. Tough game politics.

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7 minutes ago, Parkside said:

My social feeds are blowing up about this. 

Somehow I doubt that anyone will be astonished by that...

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150 mill is such a drop of piss in a very large bucket.  Christ we gave 50 mill to the GP here every year and thats just from a state gov.  How much we are giving already?  Maybe we could cut back on say franking credits,  or negative gearing and hand that over...ah bugger they all voted LNP.

Mate just sold his bulldozer to a QLD farmer - didn't want the blade as he was just going to hook it up to another with a chain and land clear in case the legislation changed and stopped him.

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34 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Somehow I doubt that anyone will be astonished by that...

I have a lot of family in North West tablelands. They are National Party members. They have been feeding cattle and sheep for 2 years. They are good operators and have stored sileage away but are finally running out of stuff to hand feed their remaining stock. They are driving 4 hour trips to do laundry for months now. the bores on their properties are drying up so water troughs are empty and their cattle have no water. they are selling their livelihoods to feedlots and abbatoirs. 

But you're awesome at jumping to conclusions and being a snide prat. My conservative voting rellos have swapped out the "why are we paying welfare", to "why are we paying NASA" memes. 

The amount and the project don't matter to me, but it looks bad for us to give money to a space program while our primary producers are being slammed by a hideous drought.

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The last time I mentioned a proposal to get some more water flowing up that way I was shut down by snide leftist prats

Oh well...

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31 minutes ago, Parkside said:

I have a lot of family in North West tablelands. They are National Party members. They have been feeding cattle and sheep for 2 years. They are good operators and have stored sileage away but are finally running out of stuff to hand feed their remaining stock. They are driving 4 hour trips to do laundry for months now. the bores on their properties are drying up so water troughs are empty and their cattle have no water. they are selling their livelihoods to feedlots and abbatoirs. 

But you're awesome at jumping to conclusions and being a snide prat. My conservative voting rellos have swapped out the "why are we paying welfare", to "why are we paying NASA" memes. 

The amount and the project don't matter to me, but it looks bad for us to give money to a space program while our primary producers are being slammed by a hideous drought.

just remind them that Scomo, only a few months ago, got a 5 billion dollar drought relief fund set up, which has now passed the senate.   that may shut them up. 

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14 minutes ago, Prince said:

just remind them that Scomo, only a few months ago, got a 5 billion dollar drought relief fund set up, which has now passed the senate.   that may shut them up. 

But that fund is only going to provide $100M per year, and not start for another year (I know the NASA funding will be less/annum but that's not the headline).

From what I understand the $5B is a fund that will be self sustaining into the future, only drawing down the $100M each year.

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1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

The last time I mentioned a proposal to get some more water flowing up that way I was shut down by snide leftist prats

Oh well...

Thanks for the cheap swipe, Jimbo.

I suggest you re-read that content.

You had every opportunity to back up your opinion with facts and solid references but were incapable or disinclined to do so.

 

 

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think big picture people, rocket to mars, find water, bring it back (should be easy as mars is above us so its all down hill and building a long pipe will create jobs), let it flow on the plains, the grass grows, the cows eat the grass, we eat the cows, humans and cows fart, we harvest the methane for energy and use that instead of coal.

scomo has got this.  big picture people, be positive, dream, believe in sco mo.

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25 minutes ago, Oompa Loompa said:

think big picture people, rocket to mars, find water, bring it back (should be easy as mars is above us so its all down hill and building a long pipe will create jobs), let it flow on the plains, the grass grows, the cows eat the grass, we eat the cows, humans and cows fart, we harvest the methane for energy and use that instead of coal.

scomo has got this.  big picture people, be positive, dream, believe in sco mo.

I can hear him now “How good is NASA!”

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6 hours ago, Parkside said:

The amount and the project don't matter to me, but it looks bad for us to give money to a space program while our primary producers are being slammed by a hideous drought.

I agree, This country is a shambles sometimes...... and Then everyone also wants to give billions to climate change. It wont fix the drought.

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5 hours ago, Prince said:

just remind them that Scomo, only a few months ago, got a 5 billion dollar drought relief fund set up, which has now passed the senate.   that may shut them up. 

Yes, but did you know it can't be used until July 1 2020....... whats with that?

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3 hours ago, IronmanFoz said:

 

Yes, but did you know it can't be used until July 1 2020....... whats with that?

It's a future fund. They are actually only putting $3.9B into it, not the $5 they have spruiked. They will let it grow to $5B with it's earnings. From next year they'll start using $100M each year for research, infrastructure and other things the Minister for Drought (Barnaby Joyce) deems worthy.

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9 hours ago, Paul Every said:

Thanks for the cheap swipe, Jimbo.

I suggest you re-read that content.

You had every opportunity to back up your opinion with facts and solid references but were incapable or disinclined to do so.

 

 

I was looking to start a conversation Paul, not throwing my weight around like certain others 

Perhaps you should re-read that content 

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“Conversation starter” probably not the first descriptor most would associate with your contributions, just saying

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40 minutes ago, Parkside said:

“Conversation starter” probably not the first descriptor most would associate with your contributions, just saying

It's typically arrogant of you to think that you can speak for everyone else 

Just saying 

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