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1 minute ago, trinube said:

I'm not sure, as much as I don't like her I think Tania Plibersek will be given a go. 

Tania's partner is a major liability, not sure that is going to happen.  Destined to be the deputy

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As an aside, how good is it that the betting companies are going to get whacked badly.

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Just now, Cottoneyes said:

Tania's partner is a major liability, not sure that is going to happen.  Destined to be the deputy

It was drug dealing wasn't it? Or drug possession/using.

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1 minute ago, trinube said:

As an aside, how good is it that the betting companies are going to get whacked badly.

All I know is I can now afford that fancy new Scicon bag I've been eyeing off!!

Thanks Scomo 😎

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I am gob smacked.   Morrison is a legend 

Bill.  Not so much 

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2 minutes ago, more said:

All I know is I can now afford that fancy new Scicon bag I've been eyeing off!!

Thanks Scomo 😎

Dam. I shouldn’t taken that tip. 

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4 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

Tania's partner is a major liability, not sure that is going to happen.  Destined to be the deputy

Tanya is too much of a hater.  Very off-putting

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Just now, IronJimbo said:

Tanya is too much of a hater.  Very off-putting

I agree. They use her and Penny Wong as attack dogs and I've always perceived it as very negative. It's almost like they think people will forgive gross negativity if it comes from a woman.

Very pleased to see the mad monk ditched - oh, how I wish Dutton had been turfed as well. The best thing to come out of this is it will weaken the far right of the Libs and there's a better chance of a more centerist government.

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3 minutes ago, A2K said:

Big data FTW.  Looks like this type of data might be more accurate than any of the old polling types. 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/federal-election-2019-researcher-predicts-who-will-win/news-story/33ecf6b6c7b70e33b42146350d442e9a

Wow. Great article 

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4 minutes ago, A2K said:

Big data FTW.  Looks like this type of data might be more accurate than any of the old polling types. 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/federal-election-2019-researcher-predicts-who-will-win/news-story/33ecf6b6c7b70e33b42146350d442e9a

Well I hope he put a few thousand on the Libs at 10 to 1 in the name of the Uni. They may need it over the next 3 years.

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I wonder how the Libs that bailed recently will be feeling? It's good this will result in a bunch of new blood.

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4 minutes ago, A2K said:

Big data FTW.  Looks like this type of data might be more accurate than any of the old polling types. 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/federal-election-2019-researcher-predicts-who-will-win/news-story/33ecf6b6c7b70e33b42146350d442e9a

It was actually that article this morning that prompted me to have a punt. Seems that like with the US election what people say publically and feel privately is two different things.

This forum is a perfect example-plenty of very vocal left leaning people who make it uncomfortable for righteaning people to speak up..

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Just now, trinube said:

I wonder how the Libs that bailed recently will be feeling? It's good this will result in a bunch of new blood.

New blood on both sides, if Shortpants goes, that will pretty much clean out the main players from the "Killing Season" from Labor.  With Abbot gone there is only Dutton and a couple of other minor players from the Libs left, and will have diminished power without the NSW right to back them up.

Hopefully we will see some stability going forward

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14 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

Just hoping SA does the right thing and keeps SHY out of the senate.

Oh, that would be the icing on the cake...

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Tanya talking about negativity - pot meet kettle.

Can't resist the temptation to put the slipper in rather than saying "We put some major changes to the people and they rejected them - we'll do something different next time"

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26 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

Tania's partner is a major liability, not sure that is going to happen.  Destined to be the deputy

 

25 minutes ago, trinube said:

It was drug dealing wasn't it? Or drug possession/using.

Quote from Wiki:

" Coutts-Trotter was given a nine-year prison sentence after being convicted for the importation and distribution of heroin into Australia in 1986.[1]  ..............At the time he was a heroin dealer and addict."

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8 minutes ago, Cottoneyes said:

New blood on both sides, if Shortpants goes, that will pretty much clean out the main players from the "Killing Season" from Labor.  With Abbot gone there is only Dutton and a couple of other minor players from the Libs left, and will have diminished power without the NSW right to back them up.

Hopefully we will see some stability going forward

It’s a bit like game of thrones.  

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9 minutes ago, more said:

 

This forum is a perfect example-plenty of very vocal left leaning people who make it uncomfortable for righteaning people to speak up..

I think you are completely wrong on this!  One, maybe two people.  I'm as left leaning as probably anyone here, and clearly as passionate about it.  Find me a person who I have tried to run roughshod over?  And many other of the lefties too.  And there are those on the right who give as good as they get.

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14 minutes ago, trinube said:

I wonder how the Libs that bailed recently will be feeling? It's good this will result in a bunch of new blood.

I think none?  Most had had long political careers, and will be getting their fat pensions!  And will move on to cushy jobs somewhere else while collection their pensions.

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Some of the labor pollies on sky look like their mothers have just Died.  Except Richo who has a wry smile he tells it how it is and he admits he got it wrong n

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17 minutes ago, trinube said:

I wonder how the Libs that bailed recently will be feeling? It's good this will result in a bunch of new blood.

Very good, given that most of them were either leftists or Turnbull loyalists

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As a lefty, it's a sad day.  Not unsurprising, just sad.  How they've held after the last 6 years is unfathomable to me?  How Dutton has held is unfathomable to me.  Did Labor go to hard with too many policies?  Maybe.  But I think they still have one big foot in the ointment (not that I myself have any issues with him).

Will be friggin hilarious when the first opinion polls come out and two party preferred has Labor ahead 51 to 49 :)

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1 minute ago, goughy said:

I think you are completely wrong on this!  One, maybe two people.  I'm as left leaning as probably anyone here, and clearly as passionate about it.  Find me a person who I have tried to run roughshod over?  And many other of the lefties too.  And there are those on the right who give as good as they get.

I don't think I lean either way - I've voted for both labor and liberal in the recent past. This time around it was an easier decision for me as I detest Bill Shorten and Labor put forward a few policies which were bad for me personally, and which I think would have been bad overall.

The catch was that I hate Abbott and Dutton as much as I hate Shorten. As I've long said, I crave a more centerist government. I really hate the recent trend of the major parties extending to their extremities. Labor further to the left and the Libs further to the right.

Hopefully we can enjoy a more centerist, stable government for the next 4 years.

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3 minutes ago, trinube said:

I don't think I lean either way - I've voted for both labor and liberal in the recent past. This time around it was an easier decision for me as I detest Bill Shorten and Labor put forward a few policies which were bad for me personally, and which I think would have been bad overall.

The catch was that I hate Abbott and Dutton as much as I hate Shorten. As I've long said, I crave a more centerist government. I really hate the recent trend of the major parties extending to their extremities. Labor further to the left and the Libs further to the right.

Hopefully we can enjoy a more centerist, stable government for the next 4 years.

And maybe that's why Hawke was such a great PM, because he had a good mix of left and right. But if you say that then the  outrage squad get outraged...

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I'm with you Trinube.  I had a choice between voting for a local member (lib) that I despise in the same mold as Abbot, or I could vote for a relatively good candidate from labor but then support Shorten.  In the end informal got my vote.

Don't care either way, but if Scomo without his religion is as far right as we go than I can live with that

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7 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Very good, given that most of them were either leftists or Turnbull loyalists

So you define left as anyone marginally less rightwing than your position? ;)

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I can't believe how many people vote for One Nation. It sounds like Malcolm Roberts might get in again - staggering.

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1 minute ago, trinube said:

I can't believe how many people vote for One Nation. It sounds like Malcolm Roberts might get in again - staggering.

They were polling over 12% in Longman in Qld, with Palmer another 3+%.

There's something special about Qld.

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5 minutes ago, trinube said:

I can't believe how many people vote for One Nation. It sounds like Malcolm Roberts might get in again - staggering.

Malcolm Roberts. Horrors. 

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16 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

So you define left as anyone marginally less rightwing than your position? ;)

No, I regard people like Christopher Pyne, Craig Laundy and Julie Bishop as left 

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3 minutes ago, Paul Every said:

They were polling over 12% in Longman in Qld, with Palmer another 3+%.

There's something special about Qld.

As I said, Queensland is Australia's retirement village

Adani wouldn't have helped either

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Just now, Oompa Loompa said:

How good is it, democracy has spoken.    Happy Birthday Jimbo.

Oh yeah, I must remember to unblock you on FB now :)

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5 minutes ago, Oompa Loompa said:

How good is it, democracy has spoken.    Happy Birthday Jimbo.

Tell me about it...

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😁

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Yes, what hope do we have when so much of the country will vote for those 3 nutbag parties!  

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Great day for Australia, the right wing of the Liberal party is badly hurt with their captain gone, and a more centrist, less ideological and sensible government will hopefully be formed. 

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1 minute ago, Rog said:

Great day for Australia, the right wing of the ALP is badly hurt with their captain gone, and a more centrist, less ideological and sensible government will hopefully be formed. 

I assume you mean LNP

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Unsurprisingly, Shorten resigning from leadership

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Why does Bill put on a silly voice    It’s also a concession speech not a valedictory speech. 

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3 minutes ago, dazaau said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/betting-agency-makes-monumental-and-costly-error-ahead-of-election/news-story/a9a49b6aef6d2b03e9a8d0841a376d81 

SportsBet regretting paying out $1.3 million to punters on the labor victory a few days early.. 

 

 

 

lol, I read about that the other day.  Just bizarre...

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2 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

lol, I read about that the other day.  Just bizarre...

I know! Crazy right. 

The most expensive part is yet to come though I guess, they still have to pay the other side out at high odds - with nothing to offset the losses. Mental :lol:

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8 hours ago, goughy said:

How Dutton has held is unfathomable to me.

There was a huge amount of misinformation getting around in our electorate. There were full billboards warning people of "Labor's Death tax", and a lot of stuff about what Dutton had "Delivered", which in actual fact is just promises that weren't even costed in the recent budget.

Dutton had boasted earlier about his "$600,000 war-chest" to fight Get-up and was incredibly visible. I think however, at least in my part of the electorate, the biggest factor was the fuss they made about Ali France not living in the electorate. I think if she had, it would have made the difference to a lot of people. 

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I read a comment else where that Anthony Green said the inaccuracy of polls is coming down to people not having landlines anymore.  That's Labor's fault then for instigating an NBN, or a cunning plan by the LNP for hamstringing it so much that calls weren't getting through.

Either way, I'm watching the Sun come up so we didn't all die!

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