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Currently tossing up whether I withdraw by the end of this month….

 

I was meant to do IM Melb this year but pulled out 12hours prior to the race, fully carbo-loaded and a fantastic training block after my wife went into somewhat unexpected labour – the doctor gave her the “no way is it coming” that morning!

 

I have not swum since March….

 

I have run maybe 10 times and up to 5k (a struggle) with the dog.

 

I have ridden maybe 200km for the month times last three months.

 

I am 8-10kgs over race weight.

 

The baby is having a lot of sleeping problems and if I get 90mins of sleep I am very happy – there has been no change insight despite multiple “specialists” and in-patient 6 night stay at hospital.

 

Wife is back working and to days a week I care from him after my wife goes to work at 6:30am and til she gets home 7:30pm or so – limiting training on these two days.

 

All of this adds up to some considerable thinking as the sleeping baby is somewhat out of my control, work should quieten down from the 60+hour weeks and I have a couple of training holidays planned.

 

Certainly very different considerations to what I have had in the past.

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Currently tossing up whether I withdraw by the end of this month….

 

I was meant to do IM Melb this year but pulled out 12hours prior to the race, fully carbo-loaded and a fantastic training block after my wife went into somewhat unexpected labour – the doctor gave her the “no way is it coming” that morning!

 

I have not swum since March….

 

I have run maybe 10 times and up to 5k (a struggle) with the dog.

 

I have ridden maybe 200km for the month times last three months.

 

I am 8-10kgs over race weight.

 

The baby is having a lot of sleeping problems and if I get 90mins of sleep I am very happy – there has been no change insight despite multiple “specialists” and in-patient 6 night stay at hospital.

 

Wife is back working and to days a week I care from him after my wife goes to work at 6:30am and til she gets home 7:30pm or so – limiting training on these two days.

 

All of this adds up to some considerable thinking as the sleeping baby is somewhat out of my control, work should quieten down from the 60+hour weeks and I have a couple of training holidays planned.

 

Certainly very different considerations to what I have had in the past.

 

 

Steno,

 

If it makes you feel any better, I sent my withdrawal email off at 3.22pm today, the reasons you will see across in ther mental health thread so I won't repeat myself.

 

At this stage, I am very similar to you training wise, having not swum since being in Lake Taupo in March, have complete 1 x 12km run in late May and have been on the bike approximately 6 times since getting back from NZ (my TT bike still has the IMNZ race number on it :shy: ), most recently completing a solid 24km ride on Saturday in a solid 55 mins............Jesus wept.

 

More importantly, I have absolutely no desire or motivation to think anything tri related until all this crap is sorted out on the personal side.

 

More than happy to arrange to catch up IM Melb weekend, drink beer and yell abuse...........encouragement, that is............at all of our fellow Trannies!!

 

Cheers

Ayto

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I might also be a non-starter. Another tyke on the way will make it problematic.

 

On a more jocular note, where's IronPo's contribution to this thread?!?!? He's gone quiet on IM Melbourne lately after rivaling Chuckie M's post race analysis of Ballarat 226 in 2003.

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I might also be a non-starter. Another tyke on the way will make it problematic.

 

On a more jocular note, where's IronPo's contribution to this thread?!?!? He's gone quiet on IM Melbourne lately after rivaling Chuckie M's post race analysis of Ballarat 226 in 2003.

Mate I was trying not open any IMM threads so i dont undo all my expesive threapy in regards to that said mentioned IM but seeing you brought it up in the TA thread all my physcological ( spelling ) improvment just went out the window so I thought bugger it I'll open this thread LOL

 

Now I might add some well thought out comments

Cheers

Ip

 

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Too early for a thread..?

 

How is everyone going? Started the prep yet?

Mate you should start a thread now about how excited you are about doing IMfrankston

 

You won't be all that excited about it once you are all done and dusted with the traffic carnage,

the super expensive parking fees,

the unorganized logistics of bike return and finish line details,

not seeing your supporters for most of the day,

absolutely no atmosphere at the finish line,

the crap weather ,

not getting a finishers shirt for a month after the race

Not being able to swim in the bay in the week before the race , because it had to many bugs and viruses in it due to the storm water run off and the wind blowing a gale making a huge swell

Can't ride on the streets pre race due to glass and the fear of being killed by the 40 million cars, driving like madmen

 

LOL

 

But hey you will be an ironman

 

Aaaaarrrrrrrhhhhh that feels better

Now back to my specialists

Cheers

Ip

 

Edit to add

I won't be reply in to these comments as I need to go back into my IMM exile

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I live in Melbourne. I liked IMM, first IM for me. I liked the fact that I didn't have to go anywhere to do it, that it was a 'home' event. Did ok but with only modest expectation, and by o.k. mean MOP for AG, and around middle overall (median time overall and 50-54M are similar). Prior had (only) done Vic HIMs (Geelong, Shepparton, Falls).

 

But if I wasnt living in Melbourne I don't think I'd do IMM, well maybe if I was in Vic (SA?) and didnt have other IMs closer. Or unless visiting Melbourne was somehow a treat. In summer great to go to Bright/Mt Beauty/Thredbo and ride around the mountains - yep, IP's 'home' territory. If you've ridden around there think can understand IMM shellshock :). That said, still reckon in the summer Melbourne is pretty good place to be, and for training.

 

I've entered IMM again, and things overall are going ok ...

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I went to check out something on the site last week and saw this (i.e. 365 days/2 = 182.5days):

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So I guess we're 6 months out!

 

Steno - that's plenty of time. Try and get in the pool once or twice and go for a jog here and there. Take it day by day and we'll see where you are at Chrissy - when it's actually time to start building!

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I live in Melbourne. I liked IMM, first IM for me. I liked the fact that I didn't have to go anywhere to do it, that it was a 'home' event.

But if I wasnt living in Melbourne I don't think I'd do IMM, well maybe if I was in Vic (SA?) and didnt have other IMs closer.

 

 

Ditto. But like Ayto, also withdrew. 7-8kg over race weight. Haven't swum for months. Barely ridden and run.

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Gees sorry to hear about all the bad news.

 

Just book the apartment and airfares. Having a good build for the start of the local season and the long course champs.

 

Injuries sorted (touch wood), swimming more than ever (10-15km week), rides are ramping up and dusted off TT bike. Running building after some early injuries....life is good, all be it tiring.

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Did Roth in July and didn't recover enough I don't think before getting back into it (or didn't do enough to help my body recover - should have got some massage / physio in retrospect). I wanted to concentrate on running for the rest of this year but when I started to build my body said no! Had a few health issues to deal with too.

 

So I've backed off the running, I'm getting some massage and building core strength. Commuting on the bike to work a couple of times a week and the odd session on the home trainer as well. Did my first swim this week too. Road bike is under repair (see thread on insurance options...) but should have that back in the next week or two.

 

Doing Melbourne and Cairns so I feel like I need to have a solid base so recovery isn't as shocking as it was after Roth!

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It will be my first IM but have not run in 4 weeks due to a cyst behind my knee, another month at least on the run sideline. Trying to get more bike and swim in without the knee crapping out. Aim to get the swim and bike done to the best of my ability then survive the run depending on the knee.

 

Back to the physio next week to try and get to the bottom of injury.

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Man this thread should be renamed "group counselling thread"

so much for the hype sorrounding it on here, lots of action on signup day and sweet FA follow through a few months later.

Perhaps for this race part of it should be returned to the old half ironman qualifying series?

might stop some of this crap.

 

Ironpo- talk about a pesimist. weather on race day was perfect for racing, and I dont know what time you finished but the atmosphere for a few km in st kilda was awesome when i was spectating down there.

scared of riding in frankston? its no worse than riding in any other city.

traffic fees - couldnt be any worse than the last few music concerts i've been too and ended up paying $40 for parking. By the time it gets to race day, parking fees are about the last thing i'm worrying about. if you cant ignore all the little things like this then its gonna be a sad long and uncomfotable 226.2km

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When there was only one IM (Forster) - you used to have to qualify at a half in Australia. They all had slots, e.g. Shep would have 60 (or 80 or whatever) slots and there was a roll down after each half for places for the IM in Forster.

 

If you did two halves and didn't qualify you could go into the 'lottery' - however in reality if you had completed two halves as part of the qualifying series you were always able to get to Forster.

 

This changed with the introduction of Busselton - I think the requirement initially was that you had to have done a sprint (or half?) to enter Busso but that was soon scrapped.

 

Eventually things reverted to the US model - e.g. get a credit card and 1 year out from the event and enter!

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Like a lot here I'm in "off season" and finding it hard to get back to race fitness.

We've all done it before, and know whats required.

the thought of withdrawing cos I'm 5 kg over race weight, slow,and haven't done enough wouldn't cross my mind.

There's only one answer to all that,and it's not at the end of a computer. Yarrawonga OD in 3 weeks,Shepp on 7.

there's a ton of time before IMMelb.

Start using it. it's starting that's hard.

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SMiffy, for some of these people its much harder to actually do something than type on an internet forum and look for sympathy

Agreed...me too sometimes!...Enough!

It's one foot in front of the other and the next thing you know you've run clean across Greenbough County....and you think..come this far...might as well keep going across the mighty state of Alabamba!

did 14km tonight ...keep Alabamba for another night!

Or if you prefer..the longest journey starts with a single step

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I found IMMelb to be a great experience. My 9th IM and it went pretty good. Some issues need sorting for the next race but not a clusterf**k like some sem to think. Two things are a surety for next year. The weather will be different bad the swim conditions won't be the same.

I didn't enter the 2013 Race due to my knee. After it giving in at the 30 km mark of this years Rae forcing me to walk to the finish, I was unsure about doing another IM ever. A few weeks after the race I also tore my right calf muscle. I had a complete break for 6 weeks and started bike training again. Some gym work, bit of swimming, biking and some light running.

Right now I am at race weight, could easily cover the swim and bike legs of the ironman but still have a question over my knee lasting a full marathon run. If I had confidence in my knee, I would enter either IM Melb or IMWA for my 10th one.

 

On IM Melb race day I will be out on the course cheering on those I know and hangin shit on Gus haha.

 

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I have run maybe 10 times and up to 5k (a struggle) with the dog.

 

I have ridden maybe 200km for the month times last three months.

 

I am 8-10kgs over race weight.

 

The baby is having a lot of sleeping problems and if I get 90mins of sleep I am very happy – there has been no change insight despite multiple “specialists” and in-patient 6 night stay at hospital.

 

 

 

2 birds with the one stone, baby not sleeping = jogging pram to get them to sleep + miles for Steno (and possibly alone time for Mummy = happy Mummy = more spending money on bike things for Steno). At 6 months old they should be okay to go in the pram

 

My jogging pram is not being used until around this time next year when my as yet unarrived will be old enough for it, PM me if you need to borrow it

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2 birds with the one stone, baby not sleeping = jogging pram to get them to sleep + miles for Steno

 

 

I am also not sleeping! The little one has great days, but midnight to 4:30am is hell. Um, not running at that time! :)

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Riley,low blow. You need to be mor specific.

 

P.s to be clear I realise you aren't going me but wondering who?

 

 

 

It doesn't matter who it is really.

 

At the end of the day, people make decisions for their own reasons.............

 

 

Oh, And by people I mean me.

 

Everyone lives their own lives and has their own priorities. At any given point in time, but specifically at this point in time, THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in my life is my kids. Whilst I enjoy triathlon and I will come back to it at some stage, in reality it is nothing more than a time filler.

 

With respect to those who treat it (much, much) more seriously than that, go for it. Happy for you and the choices you make...................but don't judge me for my choices when you know nothing about it.

 

I am more than happy when I look myself in the mirror......................are you?

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I've been at it in a more structured way for about 5-6 weeks. Before then, it was just 'keeping active'. 120k this morning, power meter batteries died 50k in. No power reading! I wasn't sure whether to stop & catch a train home, but in the end, I decided to keep riding.

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I'm with you guys in I'm not worried about building anything at the moment.. just concentrating on consistently getting 10-15hrs/week... Hard to nail bike volume when it's so bloody cold and the weather sucks! So I'm on this 'contingency plan' until december when I'm back in Aus, when the 'real' training will start.

That said, what and how much we do now in this non-structured phase *will* have a huge bearing on how fit we get in March - so don't be sitting on the couch!

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too right.

It's all cumulative. zero to IM on a "XX week plan" will probably see you walking the mara

 

I see your point but not always. I went from close to zero and the beginning of the year and got around Melb IM ok.

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But how many years have you been doing endurance sport?

 

PRhino, yes that is the difference having that base to draw upon. I started in 2001, but then stopped mid 2008 and didn't start again until the beginning of this year with no swimming in that break, commute to work each day (short distance) and 3 or 4 7k runs a week. But you're right, 3 months of training from zero background would involve a freakish athlete. Drew Ginn comes to mind in 2005.

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PRhino, yes that is the difference having that base to draw upon. I started in 2001, but then stopped mid 2008 and didn't start again until the beginning of this year with no swimming in that break, commute to work each day (short distance) and 3 or 4 7k runs a week. But you're right, 3 months of training from zero background would involve a freakish athlete. Drew Ginn comes to mind in 2005.

 

I think you've made my point well enough. Couch to IM - well, a reasonable IM finish - would take something really special in just a few months.

Excellent IM results are going to come from long (i.e. a few years) of consistency and building.

Point is, I think, that we're always ''training'' for that next milestone or event, even without knowing or acknowledging it.

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