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This question has been on my mind for a while, and with apparent changes at work I might just have to make a decision sooner than anticipated.

 

I know I want to go back to the mainland as I'm tired of this 'isolation'. I used to live in Cairns for 4 years before this, again rather isolated, but loved the climate :lol:

I'm not sure where I want to go, but closer to any of the bigger cities, so my question is: what has your city that makes it so great to live in ??

 

I am mostly interested in:

 

- are living costs reasonable, and wages good :D

- any triathlon related things, like good clubs, events (reading about track racing in a velodrome, organized rides nearby and huge triathlon events makes me jealous)

- general chances of scoring a job in the area (not sure what I want to do)

- weather :lol:

- nice people that live there ??

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Humdrum

 

Whilst here in Adelaide this weekend, I will buy you the local paper....

 

Adelaide is small, but good. Many others will bag Adelaide, but I like it and couldnt imagine living anywhere else (except WA maybe). Everything is easy to get to!

 

We have triathlons and cycling and swimming and running events at different times of the year...

 

We even have television!!

 

fez

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LOL Antisport

But it's sometimes COLDER than tassie !! :lol:

I could live with that though.

 

Fezza, I have (so to say) already ordered a copy of the Advertiser :lol: I used to live in Adelaide for 6 months and liked it. I know everyone bags it, but it's really not that bad.

 

Should probably add, I have friends (well, one in each city) in Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, which is a tiny bonus. Also considering Brisbane. Perth is lovely but again so far away from things.

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PORT STEPHENS/NELSON BAY!!! :lol:

 

Nuff said!!!!

 

PS: Don't tell anyone else please cause the house/apartment prices are dear enough now without any cashed up trannies getting in on the bandwagon!!!!

 

TIMMAAYY

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I do a fairly regular tour around the states and shall be touring again in August through all major capitals…

 

Adelaide: Fezza why did they make the streets so wide? Was Adelaide expecting a explosion of people that never occurred? Not much happens in Adelaide as evidenced by the CBD being empty by 7.30 each night.

 

Perth: Lovely and good climate. Too far from East Coast though.

 

Sydney: Traffic and car horns… enough said.

 

Brisbane: Nice place with a bad airport. Friendly people and good climate. Would live here.

 

Melbourne: Home…

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Have a look at Canberra

 

Only city in Australia with more jobs on offer than unemployed to fill them - so takes care of that part. (nice cushy Public service job - start late, finish early, good perks etc)

 

Most bike shops per capita in Australia, and the clubs and groups to support it, along with several AR groups and mtb groups

 

Most upmarket restaurants per capita in Australia

 

Nice Cafe etc scene

 

Easy travel to ski fields, Sydney or Melbourne, one hour to Batemans Bay (coast)

 

Politicians are only here four days a week

 

Only thing is if you don't like the cold - then it sucks

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If Melbourne did not have such shit weather over winter I would live there (maybe). I have on 4 different occasions live in that city, 2 as a kid and 2 in my working life and loved everything except the mentioned weather. I was well situated however at the time but with the lay out of the place, working at the Airport makes it very limited on where to live and not be commuting a million miles.

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In the line of work you are in, you should look at Coffs Harbour. Heaps of resorts there. Their club is a great one. Only a short drive to Ironman. Bit longer to GC for their races.

 

Lots of country roads for cycling.

 

Beach for swimming.

 

Shit, I might move there.

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Brisvegas used to be good till the Mexicans discovered it.

 

I could go a spell in Radelaide, not a bad spot. Perth would be option 3 but a bit too isolated, and I was born and bred there before any Perthians get agitated.

 

Would love to go live in a smaller town with a lifestyle option but I'm a pro Desk Jockey so it's hard to get work, waiting for the oil price to make telecommuting a necessity, instead of a Boss only option.

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If current plans come together could be living in Switzerland in about 18 months!!! :lol: Aim is to stay there for a couple of years cause we MAY have a free house to share!!!

 

TIMMAAYY

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Too close to home for me Timmaayy. That would mean I'd have to go see my parents more often than every 2-4 years :lol:

And it gets bloody freeeeeezing there !!

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Coffs ?? f**k that. Spend a weekend at the shops or have a drink at the Hoey Moey that'll cure you.

 

In the line of work you are in, you should look at Coffs Harbour.  Heaps of resorts there.  Their club is a great one.  Only a short drive to Ironman. Bit longer to GC for their races.

 

Lots of country roads for cycling.

 

Beach for swimming.

 

Shit, I might move there.

 

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Coffs ?? f**k that.  Spend a weekend at the shops or have a drink at the Hoey Moey that'll cure you.

 

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CRIKEY Ted you just swore!!!! - WELL SORT OF :lol::lol:

 

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Just so that there is no confusion this is Tedd with a double "d". I have realised there is a Ted here so I will change my login so that there is no confusion.

 

 

CRIKEY Ted you just swore!!!! - WELL SORT OF :lol:  :lol:

 

TIM

 

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Just so that there is no confusion this is Tedd with a double "d".  I have realised there is a Ted here so I will change my login so that there is no confusion.

 

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AHA - Sorry methinks I have the wrong TED OR TEDD :lol:

 

TIMMMAAYYY

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In the line of work you are in, you should look at Coffs Harbour.  Heaps of resorts there.  Their club is a great one.  Only a short drive to Ironman. Bit longer to GC for their races.

 

Lots of country roads for cycling.

 

Beach for swimming.

 

Shit, I might move there.

 

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I concur...

 

Not flash on the employment side of things though

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Port Macquarie- I love it there.

 

Great scenery, fantastic triathlon community, best bike shop- Gordon Street Cycles- with handy coffee shop, housing seems reasonable.

 

Downside- jobs opportunities limited.

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Stay away from Newcastle its full of polution the beaches suck & there just nothing to do.

 

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:lol: Nice place to live is it :lol:

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PORT STEPHENS/NELSON BAY!!! cool.gif

 

Nuff said!!!!

 

PS: Don't tell anyone else please cause the house/apartment prices are dear enough now without any cashed up trannies getting in on the bandwagon!!!!

 

TIMMAAYY

 

We very nearly moved to Nelson Bay a few years ago. I love the place. We have just booked to fly up for a weeks holiday at the end of September.

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Port Macquarie- I love it there.

 

Great scenery, fantastic triathlon community, best bike shop- Gordon Street Cycles- with handy coffee shop, housing seems reasonable.

 

Downside- jobs opportunities limited.

 

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Isn't port that retirement village where they have some sort of race in early April???

 

 

I for one really don't understand the attraction of Melbourne... Bris Vegas i can understand though (especially after a shit morning on the bike this morning... FARK ME ITS COLD HERE, oh and rainy, but rainy isn't too bad if it's not cold)

 

And for the record... I live in Canberra...

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Murgon

 

1. No peak hour

2. Affordability

3. Pucken tradition

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Isn't port that retirement village where they have some sort of race in early April???

 

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Yep. Stay away. :lol:

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Adelaide: Fezza why did they make the streets so wide? Was Adelaide expecting a explosion of people that never occurred? Not much happens in Adelaide as evidenced by the CBD being empty by 7.30 each night.

 

 

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Well, I didnt plan the city streets, but I like it, it is a nice feeling knowing that if cars are parked on either side of the road, then emergency vehicles can still get thru :lol::lol::D

 

And a quiet city at 7.30pm. I am sure their are places to go, but it dont faze me, i am normally in bed by 9.30pm anyways :D:D

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Well, I didnt plan the city streets, but I like it, it is a nice feeling knowing that if cars are parked on either side of the road, then emergency vehicles can still get thru  :lol:  :lol:  :D

 

And a quiet city at 7.30pm. I am sure their are places to go, but it dont faze me, i am normally in bed by 9.30pm anyways  :D  :D

 

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Gee it sounds like Adelaide would suit me...

I'm asleep by 9pm most nights!! ;)

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Gee it sounds like Adelaide would suit me...

I'm asleep by 9pm most nights!!  ;)

 

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:lol::lol::D:D:D

 

You all cant move here, not enough pool space and I like a lane to myself ;):blink:

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Pictures are worth 1,000 words so here's the Northern Beaches (of Sydney) for you:

 

From Curl Curl...

 

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to Manly...

 

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to Shelley Beach...

 

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...and back is a 14km run. Going along the beach you run past 4 rockpools (3 of which are 50m), 3 heated pools (25m indoor and 50m & 25m outdoor), running oval and protected open water swim of about 4km out and back (North Steyne to Shelley Beach)...

 

Freshwater Pool

 

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Narrabeen Sports Academy Track

 

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And even the Manly Dam if you're into MTB...

 

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And endless safe roads for cycling around...

 

...Akuna Bay...

 

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...Bobbin Head...

 

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...Galston Gorge...

 

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And many many others...

 

You're also 30mins away from the city on the Ferry

 

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Honestly, where else would you wanna live??

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Isn't manly dam now closed to MTB'ing due to erosion?

 

 

Also you forgot the bit about large amounts of pollution, massive number of people with road/career/personal life rage. Nice enough if you can stay on the insular, but if you gotta go to the city to work....

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Closed to mtb due to erosion??? I would think the more erosion the better or do you mtb on flat roads these days??

 

Also please note the topic is about selling your town so not sure why would I mention any of the stuff you touch on along with the fact that I completely disagree with what you said anyway!

 

Isn't manly dam now closed to MTB'ing due to erosion?

Also you forgot the bit about large amounts of pollution, massive number of people with road/career/personal life rage. Nice enough if you can stay on the insular, but if you gotta go to the city to work....

 

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Isn't manly dam now closed to MTB'ing due to erosion?

 

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Only gets closed by the rangers during rainy periods which is off and on lately....

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I recently stayed with a friend at Curl Curl- and it was a training paradise just as Rog describes- but the cost of housing must be high.

 

.........................and Melbourne- moved from there 17 years ago and have only been back a handful of times. Nice place to visit but I'm glad I don't live there any more.

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Im going to say Melbourne.

1. the bay is great for swim training in summer, and assorment of pools both 25 and 50.

2. Beach rd for cycling. Every road has wankers on it.... this one just is a little prettier and tiny tiny hills to stop it being dead flat.

3. Number of races to choose from

4. SHOPPING!!!!

5. heaps of Trannies here already so instant network

 

Sydney has narrow roads and I hate buses (esspecially when you have to race on weekends and its your mode of transport and you end up at the pool an hour even before warm up starts)

Adelaide: Is a quiet little town, dont like the pool, but people seem friendly enough

Perth: No real idea, only got to see the pretty lights for 5 mins post racing, and they will never let me and my friend use a shopping trolly there again.

Brisbane: Nice and warm, great for a holiday, hence chock full of tourists

Canberra: arseholes drag racing...... porn, and fireworks

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Im going to say Melbourne.

1. the bay is great for swim training in summer, and assorment of pools both 25 and 50.

2. Beach rd for cycling.  Every road has wankers on it.... this one just is a little prettier and tiny tiny hills to stop it being dead flat.

3. Number of races to choose from

4. SHOPPING!!!!

5.  heaps of Trannies here already so instant network

 

Sydney has narrow roads and I hate buses (esspecially when you have to race on weekends and its your mode of transport and you end up at the pool an hour even before warm up starts)

Adelaide: Is a quiet little town, dont like the pool, but people seem friendly enough

Perth: No real idea, only got to see the pretty lights for 5 mins post racing, and they will never let me and my friend use a shopping trolly there again.

Brisbane: Nice and warm, great for a holiday, hence chock full of tourists

Canberra: arseholes drag racing...... porn, and fireworks

 

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Canberra here I come.

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Have a look at Canberra

 

Only city in Australia with more jobs on offer than unemployed to fill them - so takes care of that part. (nice cushy Public service job - start late, finish early, good perks etc)

 

Most bike shops per capita in Australia, and the clubs and groups to support it, along with several AR groups and mtb groups

 

Most upmarket restaurants per capita in Australia

 

Nice Cafe etc scene

 

Easy travel to ski fields, Sydney or Melbourne, one hour to Batemans Bay (coast)

 

Politicians are only here four days a week

 

Only thing is if you don't like the cold - then it sucks

 

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CORC is the biggest MTB club in Oz I think?

 

Stromlo just keeps getting better and better :lol:

 

Gold Coast would be my choice though :lol: , weather is awesome for training. Lots of facilities and the GC hinterland for sum hills.

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If Melbourne did not have such shit weather over winter I would live there (maybe). I have on 4 different occasions live in that city, 2 as a kid and 2 in my working life and loved everything except the mentioned weather. I was well situated however at the time but with the lay out of the place, working at the Airport makes it very limited on where to live and not be commuting a million miles.

 

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Yeah those 40 degree summer days are just too much for some people! :lol: At least we get some variety in weather. You might get hot summer days, but at least you know there is a cool change coming before it builds up again.

 

Roq - be fair, put up some pictures of traffic jams and tell humdrum about the rain of the last few months!! Sydney gets more rain than Melbourne, even if it gets more sushine. The humidity is something I couldn't cope with or the traffic in Sydney.

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I see nrmoz posting and am sure he will agree with me!!!

 

Foxy Lady - get it right, it is RoG not RoQ

 

re: traffic jam that's why we ride push bikes and can run the distance. If you don't like to do either there's always the ferry. I'm not saying Sydney is paradise, but the Northern Beaches surely is!

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The head says Singapore!

 

Clean, genuinely multicultural; excellent educational facilities; SENSATIONAL FOOD; few enemies, great sports facilities; good roads; beaches are OK; business is booming, the economy is robust the weather is amongst the most predictable in the world!

 

But the heart says Launceston.

 

I was born there; small town with few vices; best beer in Australia; easy to get anywhere in Tassie from there. Lifestyle is laid back, it's got great food, good schools, and the beer is best in Australia.

 

The roads are OK (and access to brilliant roads for a fast drive or a faster moto rider...) beaches - well simply head north down the river; business exists, weather is better than rumours would have us believe and did I say the beer is the best in Australia?

 

Suddenly Sydney simply sucks! (But not the Northern Beaches!!!)

 

I blame Premier Dilemma!

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I looked at Rog's photos - the northern beaches wins!!!

 

And that's despite the best efforts of the politicians to isolate them; the 'shire' to heap sh*t on them; the westies for invading them when we least want them.

 

Forgot to add they have some of the best coffee; most of the best restaraunts; great clubs; the best RL team in NSW, and they are at least 14kms from BS Castle in Macquarie Street, CBD SYdney...

 

PS: Northern Beaches also has the best sailing in Sydney/

 

ONLY down side is the best beer in Australia isn't made around here!

 

Ironically I took a visiting mate from Scotland (just up the road from FatPom's place!) down to Palmy today for Sydney best fish and chips (and you all thought they were in the eastern suburbs!!!?)

 

Came back along all the beaches, whales jumping out to sea; a totally calm afternoon with no wind making the ocean serene and even more scenic... beach after beach the rest of the city would die for if we really showed them what we hide up here!!!

 

There's something about this place that keeps winning me back!!! ANd has done for 25 years now! Even if you can take the lad outa Tassie and not take Tassie outa the lad!!!

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Closed to mtb due to erosion??? I would think the more erosion the better or do you mtb on flat roads these days??

 

Also please note the topic is about selling your town so not sure why would I mention any of the stuff you touch on  along with the fact that I completely disagree with what you said anyway!

 

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More erosion = trails closed more often by rangers etc = less time available to public for riding

 

I grew up on the insular at Newport, as said its a great place if you can get work in the area. Its also nice to present a balanced view of a place.

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Nice photos Rog, that certainly looks tempting... question is, could I afford to live there and find a job.

 

I am currently a Hotel Property Manager, studied Tourism Management, but considering a career change (not sure what though !!)

 

I like warm weather and don't mind heat and humidity (I sweat easily anyway :D )

But I also have enough warm clothes now to survive colder times as well :lol:

I don't need fancy nightclubs and I spend too much money on 'toys' to be able to go out to fancy and expensive restaurants. Being near the water would be great.

 

And I don't drink beer so I couldn't care less about Launceston :lol: (would be a move down from Hobart for me imo)

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Nice photos Rog, that certainly looks tempting... question is, could I afford to live there and find a job.

 

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Edit: How much do you want it?

 

 

Sydney definitely is expensive but so is every other capital city.

 

Take the plunge. Move to God's Country.

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Class work Rog.

 

I live just up the road a bit from Rog so all those pics are my play ground as well and they only scratch the surface too.

There are more pools than you can poke a stick at. (every beach has one, plenty of indoor pools in the surrounding suburbs, I can think of 8 within 10-12km of my place (25m & 50m) )

Loads of mtb riding in the surrounding areas.

Good safe cycling in the areas as per Rog's pics and plenty more, it's easy to find good long rides on quiet open roads (rural areas or national parks) with minimal suburban riding. Plenty of variety to.

Running can be either along the beaches or head over to some bush tracks for some trail running if that's your preference.

 

People complain about the public transport, but then a lot of people aren't happy unless they are complaining. Lots of buses &/or Ferry into the city.

I live & work in the northern beaches, heavy congested traffic? what's that.

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Foxy Lady - get it right, it is RoG not RoQ

 

 

 

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Well who can tell with that stupid font? :lol: It looks like a 'q' - get it changed to capitals!! I thought you had some exotic name and I always hover over g and q and give you the benefit of sounding exotic :lol: Forgive me. :D

 

(humdrum - psst. note: some Sydneysiders are very cranky if you get their names wrong :D )

 

And yeah, I agree, the northern beaches are great, if you can afford it, stunning and right out of Sydney they are even nicer, no high rise buildings - love Scotts Head and that area.

 

 

Trev: You don't have to drive the bus!! :D

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well that's true :lol:

but then it's easy to get by without a car, hence why I could ditch mine.

In fact the buses can be too quick, so you get to read less.

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