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  1. Sentenced to 16 years. Non-parole period ends 2029.
  2. I'm out of this thread - it's pissing me off how nonsensical people can be. I don't want to end up in the mental health thread.
  3. Didn't your friend have a similar situation a couple of years back? Same person?
  4. First, I agree with nuclear - been saying it for years. It's bordering on criminal that it's not even on the table for the major parties. Cost is an interesting one. You're saying the levels of pollution aren't an issue and the money is better spent elsewhere. If we keep on the path we're on, the reef's going to die. That's $6.5 billion a year in tourism - 10 years close to $100 billion with inflation. Now consider what will be required to support farmers who are suffering continuing droughts - not to mention the reduced outputs of farms adding greatly to the cost of basics like produce, meat and milk. Beef and lamb exports declining, livestock markets dropping. MY boss farms cattle and his herd has halved in price. He couldn't sell them if he wanted to and it's costing thousands of dollars a week to feed them. They're not even fit enough to slaughter. These losses have to be funded from somewhere and to quote you that will be in the form of tax and tax and tax. The great problem here is we've had our head buried in the sand for twenty years when we should have been doing something all along. I'm as far from a greenie as you get - can't stand them - but I do think we need to do something to stop the decline we're seeing. There are huge costs to NOT doing anything, just as there is to do something. At some point in time the money will have to be spent - we may as well start now because it's not going to get any cheaper but it is going to become more urgent.
  5. And you think I'm being dishonest? Lets see what 60 seconds in google turns up. A 2011 report by the the American Lung Association found that coal-fired power plants produce more hazardous air pollution in the United States than any other industrial pollution sources Coal combustion releases nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter (PM), mercury, and dozens of other substances known to be hazardous to human health Black carbon, also called soot, arises from sources such as diesel engine exhaust, burning biomass, cooking fires, and coal plants. It is made up of tiny carbon particulate matter that contributes to global warming by absorbing heat in the atmosphere and reducing albedo, the reflection of sunlight, when deposited on snow and ice. It is also a big component of air pollution around the world. Burning coal produces a variety of solid wastes known as coal combustion waste or coal combustion products. These include coal ash (fly ash and bottom ash), boiler slag, and flue-gas desulphurization products. Sulfur dioxide (SO2), which contributes to acid rain and respiratory illnesses. Nitrogen oxides (NOx), which contribute to smog and respiratory illnesses. Natural gas emits carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides. Oil emits carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury, arsenic, and benzene. Coal emits carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury, arsenic, and benzene. Yeah, those fossil fuels are great for us air breathers. Now I know what you wanted us to hold our breath.
  6. Give us all a break, you go first.
  7. FFS Jimbo, dishonest? You're hilarious. Perhaps you should breathe some of it to test your hypothesis of my dishonesty? Please explain to us plebs how burning fossil fuels doesn't put shit in the air. Actually don't bother, it would appear your head is so far up your clacker you can't acknowledge the obvious.
  8. It seems you're grappling with it more than me. You say you believe but question the extent. As per my previous posts, I don't think the extent of the effects matters greatly - removing pollutants from the air, minimising fossil fuel burning, keeping the oceans healthy and not ripping down rainforests just seems the right, and logical, thing to do to help the planet.
  9. I was just waiting for you to confirm human-generated climate change exists. Seems as relevant as anything else in the preceding 266 pages.
  10. The sort of response resorted to by virtue sigallers trying to win a moral argument because they can't win the scientific one... So you don't think dumping millions of tons of plastic into the ocean or millions of tons of pollution into the air won't have an effect on the planet and therefor its inhabitants?
  11. Really, I could have sworn it was politics. Perhaps you should start a new thread... If you happened to be watching Q&A you would have just heard a real scientist giving quite a reasonable dissertation of the effects of CO2 on the planet.
  12. No - it's a fairly simple point made not to counter a scientific response, but to make the planet more pleasant to live on for us and our kids. It requires no discussion of the economy, Gillard or anything else - just commonsense.
  13. Does it matter what the Gillard government thought? I'm not going to tell you how to debate your topics IJ, but you seem to be fixated on the politics rather than the problem. Sometimes things have to be done because it's the right thing to do. Minimising the sh!t we throw in the air and ocean - whether it can be proven to be more widely damaging to the planet or not - is simply the right thing to do.
  14. I knew I shouldn't talk in metaphors... Just for the record, I have never pissed myself on the bike
  15. For me, this is the crux of the question. Why would anyone think it is better to pollute? I'm not a scientist and am cynical enough to think that anyone can come up with a study to support or deny their preferred claims. It's simple - don't pollute the air, don't piss in the ocean and don't rape the land. Why would anyone disagree? Surely it's just commonsense.
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    Skin checks

    That's a good advertisement for a broad-brimmed hat Flanman.
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    Israel Folau

    Would certainly be a punishment...
  18. oops, my apologies, although I suppose you could fill them with gelatin
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    Garmin VO2max

    Polite, yes, let's go with that.
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    Garmin VO2max

    It doesn't surprise me you have good results - your race results clearly put you at elite level. What does surprise me is the difference between tested and measured. If anything I thought the device results might have been a bit inflated to make people feel good I suppose the other explanation for the different figures is you dug really deep during the lab test - knowing that you were being tested. Great results either way.
  21. I haven't read the past few pages but I have a gist of the discussion. Context: I work in the media (newspapers). I have met (literally) hundreds of journos from council hacks to the Canberra bubble. I was the Secretary and a Director of the largest community newspaper association in Australia. There are some absolute morons in the profession who think their sh!t don't stink and seem to have fallen to the back of the line when brains were handed out. There's a good proportion of young upstarts who don't hold the old school values of journalism and would sell their grandmothers grave plot to climb one rung up the ladder. They pump out trivial bile thinking they've just broken the next watergate. My opinion of 'new' journalism isn't high. However, a free press is essential. It's critical the voices of the unheard are heard. History is punctuated by stories so extraordinary they were hard to believe at the time but were brought to prominence by people who may well have been risking their lives to reveal them. There needs to be protection for credible journos doing their jobs, and the ability to kick the arse of the idiots who believe a press pass is a license to print anything. Just as importantly, security of undercover operatives needs to be of paramount importance when their lives are at risk. There's no perfect answer, but both sides have valid arguments.
  22. Congrats. I know I'm not far behind but I'm waiting for my Year 10 son to decide what he's doing next before I pull the trigger. Stay busy, worst mistake people make in retirement is to take it too easy. My dad did that and lost all the value in really living - it was sad.
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